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Subject: UNSC INFINITY discussion


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Ruby of the Blue

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Ruby of the Blue
343 doesn't have any fanboys.


......


So they have fanboys despite them not having released anything significant?


You don't need fanboys with actual content. Just look at the Halo Waypoint Forums and the Reach Forums praising 343 for doing...well nothing. They say 343 has saved Halo and will be much better than Bungie. It's not an isolated incident.


They're not saying 343 is saving the Halo franchise for all. They were just displeased with Reach, and they're glad Bungie is leaving.
And for those who actual do believe 343 is our "savior", you're really only using little kids and preteens as your example.

[Edited on 09.29.2011 3:56 PM PDT]

  • 09.29.2011 3:54 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: Ruby of the Blue
They're not saying 343 is saving the Halo franchise. They were just displeased with Reach, and they're glad Bungie is leaving.
And for those who actual do believe 343 is our "savior", you're really only using little kids and preteens as your example.


Yes they are...

  • 09.29.2011 3:57 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Ruby of the Blue
They're not saying 343 is saving the Halo franchise. They were just displeased with Reach, and they're glad Bungie is leaving.
And for those who actual do believe 343 is our "savior", you're really only using little kids and preteens as your example.


Yes they are...


Not necessarily.
But if that's so, then do refer to my second statement.

[Edited on 09.29.2011 4:01 PM PDT]

  • 09.29.2011 4:01 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: Ruby of the Blue

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Ruby of the Blue
They're not saying 343 is saving the Halo franchise. They were just displeased with Reach, and they're glad Bungie is leaving.
And for those who actual do believe 343 is our "savior", you're really only using little kids and preteens as your example.


Yes they are...


Not necessarily.
But if that's so, then do refer to my seconds statement.


I would, yet like always, you don't really have any proof to support it. All I know is that I see a lot of 343 dick riding on this site and Waypoint and I doubt they are all 12 year olds.

  • 09.29.2011 4:03 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Ruby of the Blue

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Ruby of the Blue
They're not saying 343 is saving the Halo franchise. They were just displeased with Reach, and they're glad Bungie is leaving.
And for those who actual do believe 343 is our "savior", you're really only using little kids and preteens as your example.


Yes they are...


Not necessarily.
But if that's so, then do refer to my seconds statement.


I would, yet like always, you don't really have any proof to support it. All I know is that I see a lot of 343 dick riding on this site and Waypoint and I doubt they are all 12 year olds.


You're being ridiculous.

  • 09.29.2011 4:04 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: Ruby of the Blue
You're being ridiculous.

No, I'm just not detached from reality.

  • 09.29.2011 4:05 PM PDT

https://www.facebook.com/Number01Starscream

smh bro quit complaining Infinity sounds unique like the car lolz

If i had USNC ship i would call it:
By The Throat

We havent even seen gameplay yet so maybe theres more ships with mystical dramatic names haha hold your horses hhuuurrdduurr

  • 09.29.2011 4:06 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Maybe you have some evidence after all Ruby.

  • 09.29.2011 4:07 PM PDT

https://www.facebook.com/Number01Starscream

smh bro quit complaining Infinity sounds unique like the car lolz

If i had USNC ship i would call it:
By The Throat
(named after the song by Eyedea called By the Throat)

deceptican cobra dont let reality control you
Reality is yours to play with and mold
The best thing you can do is let go
So let go of the models
Transcend the physical mind And peacefully become part of the whole


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Ruby of the Blue
You're being ridiculous.

No, I'm just not detached from reality.

  • 09.29.2011 4:11 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Ruby of the Blue
You're being ridiculous.

No, I'm just not detached from reality.


You might want to become reattached to something called logic as well.
By your definition, anyone who is either happy 343 is replacing Bungie, or has a smidge of faith in them is up in the pink, cotton candy clouds of lala happy land!

  • 09.29.2011 4:13 PM PDT

https://www.facebook.com/Number01Starscream

Looks at DecepticonCobra comments


Posted by: Ruby of the Blue

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Ruby of the Blue
You're being ridiculous.

No, I'm just not detached from reality.


You might want to become reattached to something called logic as well.
By your definition, anyone who is either happy 343 is replacing Bungie, or has a smidge of faith in them is up in the pink, cotton candy clouds of lala happy land!

  • 09.29.2011 4:27 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
AN unoriginal name to be honest. Either than that, not much is known. Not exactly proof of UNSC involvement in Halo 4. Still lots of issues that come up when considering how quick UNSC technology evolved despite having their infrastructure and resources decimated during the war. That and somehow stumbling upon a mysterious sphere nobody else knew about still sounds rather far-fetched.

Also, the portion near it's engine looks rather suspicious...almost Floody in a way.


I highly doubt that they would be showing it on a major wall of Halo Fest if the UNSC was not going to be making some sort of appearance in Halo 4. I think a lot of you are serious over-estimating the damage done to the whole UNSC, remember there are least five colonies that the Covenant just passed right over to get to Reach and Earth, as well as who knows how many more that they just never found.

What makes you think that they would have to blindly stumble onto it in order to make an appearance in Halo 4? Chief isn't chained to the Legendary Planet you know, and it's not like he can't get some sort of message out to the UNSC from there either. Especially if the Forerunners are indeed there like Mendicant Bias believed.

Which end is the engines :P I sure as hell can't tell. I didn't see anything that made me think "Flood" on the ship, would you mind pointing out what you think looks Floody? And there are what looks like two more of the same ship class as the Infinity in the background.

Judging from Halo: Legends, probably around 3 years, she does claim to be 7 at the time. I have no answer on the exact time, but if it's before 2610, which the Encyclopedia states Chief is still MIA, it's too soon.

I honestly can't imagine Chief chilling in a cryo tube for 30+ years. It's possible with power, but then that brings up the issue of what is sustaining him for that journey and I'm not sure how much power a ship split in half has after a few years.

That's how I see it.


Why are you putting so much stock in information based on non-canon marketing material? And how pray tell do you know that he doesn't go MIA again at some point in the Reclaimer Trilogy and that's where the dates in the Believe stuff are coming from? Or that they just won't be outright retconned? Taking the information (which is also really old by this point) at absolute face-value and not being willing to entertain any possible scenarios that would seem to contradict it is being too narrow-minded. As I pointed out, the date information from Belive is pretty old by this point and there's a lot already from Believe that we know is non-canon, plus, it's marketing material which is not entirely official anyway.

  • 09.29.2011 4:47 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: OrderedComa
I highly doubt that they would be showing it on a major wall of Halo Fest if the UNSC was not going to be making some sort of appearance in Halo 4. I think a lot of you are serious over-estimating the damage done to the whole UNSC, remember there are least five colonies that the Covenant just passed right over to get to Reach and Earth, as well as who knows how many more that they just never found.


So they should be able to just get up and start rebuilding as if nothing happened?

What makes you think that they would have to blindly stumble onto it in order to make an appearance in Halo 4? Chief isn't chained to the Legendary Planet you know, and it's not like he can't get some sort of message out to the UNSC from there either. Especially if the Forerunners are indeed there like Mendicant Bias believed.

I know he isn't chained there, that said I still find it odd that the UNSC would be able to actually receive a signal that is lightyears away from their colonies and Earth and then response to it in a timely manner. However, if they get it and manage to arrive later on in like Halo 5 or 6, fine. I mean, the Spirit of Fire was closer to UNSC space than Chief was and hat thing is still MIA.

Which end is the engines :P I sure as hell can't tell. I didn't see anything that made me think "Flood" on the ship, would you mind pointing out what you think looks Floody? And there are what looks like two more of the same ship class as the Infinity in the background.

Going with the left side being the engines. As for my Floody comment, it seems like there is some brownish discoloration on the left. I don't know, it's probably nothing.

Why are you putting so much stock in information based on non-canon marketing material?

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The Halo Encyclopedia isn't non-canon marketing material Coma, you know that.

And how pray tell do you know that he doesn't go MIA again at some point in the Reclaimer Trilogy and that's where the dates in the Believe stuff are coming from?

So the UNSC and Forerunners lose him...again? That doesn't sound like good story telling.

Or that they just won't be outright retconned? Taking the information (which is also really old by this point) at absolute face-value and not being willing to entertain any possible scenarios that would seem to contradict it is being too narrow-minded.[/quote'

If it's information that is being retconned, why continue to put it in the newest edition of the Encyclopedia? Last time I checked, that piece of info hasn't changed. And even then, why have there in the first place?

[quote]As I pointed out, the date information from Belive is pretty old by this point and there's a lot already from Believe that we know is non-canon, plus, it's marketing material which is not entirely official anyway.


I wasn't talking about Believe Coma.

  • 09.29.2011 5:13 PM PDT


Posted by: Ruby of the Blue

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Ruby of the Blue
You're being ridiculous.

No, I'm just not detached from reality.


You might want to become reattached to something called logic as well.
By your definition, anyone who is either happy 343 is replacing Bungie, or has a smidge of faith in them is up in the pink, cotton candy clouds of lala happy land!


Could you guys just stop filling up good threads with your bickering?

  • 09.29.2011 5:38 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: Tempus Irae

Could you guys just stop filling up good threads with your bickering?


You're right. This crap between me and Ruby is pathetic for both of us. I'll drop our current argument. However, let it be known I wasn't even looking for a fight, Ruby started it. That said, I fed into it and nobody is innocent.

However, I still think a UNSC presence in Halo 4 is unlikely depending on where it is on the timeline.

  • 09.29.2011 6:08 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Tempus Irae

Could you guys just stop filling up good threads with your bickering?


However, I still think a UNSC presence in Halo 4 is unlikely depending on where it is on the timeline.


Despite the Halo 4 Warthog being confirmed, a Starship called UNSC Infinity pretty much confirmed since it was at a big wall at Halo Fest, a Grenade Magnum confirmed, humans being seen in the concept art trailer being confirmed, and considering the validity of the Encyclopedia is as thin as a spaghetti noodle etc. etc.

[Edited on 09.29.2011 6:32 PM PDT]

  • 09.29.2011 6:31 PM PDT

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
So they should be able to just get up and start rebuilding as if nothing happened?


I didn't say that, I just said that I think you're overestimating how long it would take to even have any noticeable recovery. Considering where the UNSC stands I don't think it's too implausible for them to play a big part in the Reclaimer Trilogy. 5-6 years is plenty of time to be on their feet again.

I know he isn't chained there, that said I still find it odd that the UNSC would be able to actually receive a signal that is lightyears away from their colonies and Earth and then response to it in a timely manner. However, if they get it and manage to arrive later on in like Halo 5 or 6, fine. I mean, the Spirit of Fire was closer to UNSC space than Chief was and hat thing is still MIA.

Forerunner technology is lightyears ahead of ours in development, with the speed that their communications travel at it's not at all absurd for the UNSC to receive signals from where the Legendary Planet is. How do we know that its too far away for them to respond in any timely sort of fashion? We don't know where the Legendary Planet even is, for all we know its system could be Sol's next door neighbor.
Of course the SoF is still MIA, it has no way of contacting the UNSC at all and it no longer has FTL travel. And we don't know where they are either, they could be closer than Chief they could farther away, we don't really know.

Going with the left side being the engines. As for my Floody comment, it seems like there is some brownish discoloration on the left. I don't know, it's probably nothing.

Ah, I see, *shrug* I suppose it could look a little browny, it just looks like a different colored metal to me though, or it could just be something to do with the kind of weird artstyle.

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The Halo Encyclopedia isn't non-canon marketing material Coma, you know that.


No. But Believe is, and being in the Encyclopedia doesn't really change that, considering ILoveBees was in it too.

So the UNSC and Forerunners lose him...again? That doesn't sound like good story telling.

I didn't say they lose him, I just said something could happen that would make the UNSC classify him as MIA again, and there could be any number of factors for that if that happens. Like for instance your idea that Chief gets the imprint of a Forerunner and then goes off with them, or he dies, or he ascends to some sort of higher plain as an eternal guardian or some such. There are any number of reasons to choose from.

I wasn't talking about Believe Coma.

Didn't you, Rag, and Grey get those dates you say Chief can't possibly come back until from information contained or stated in Believe, though?

  • 09.29.2011 7:00 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: Ruby of the Blue
Despite the Halo 4 Warthog being confirmed, a Starship called UNSC Infinity pretty much confirmed since it was at a big wall at Halo Fest, a Grenade Magnum confirmed, humans being seen in the concept art trailer being confirmed, and considering the validity of the Encyclopedia is as thin as a spaghetti noodle etc. etc.


I would like to know where Chief would get the 2554(?) model Warthog seemingly so soon in story. The Dawn still probably still has an armory and vehicle garage, kinda making the whole Warthog and Grenade Magnum point moot.

The UNSC Infinity is still an enigma to me. How the UNSC is able to making such advanced warships despite having their population and resource bases decimated. There is also the fact that the UNSC only really recolonizing in the 2580's, as seen in Reach.

So the idea of them finding a message from Chief or Cortana's beacon, one that would've progressively moved farther away as the Dawn drifted making the idea of the UNSC finding it even more unlikely, is really weird if they barely managed to re-settle on Reach, a far cry from exploring the unknown regions of space.

As for your "humans", got direct confirmation that they are indeed humans? This is even more confusing since the art you are probably refering to is the cover for Halo: Primoridum. So which one does it more accurately represent.

Just saying, you can state all of that, but do provide me the evidence that confirms all of what you claim

  • 09.29.2011 7:13 PM PDT

^You good sir are incredibly stubborn

  • 09.29.2011 7:41 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: RedsoxFreak101
^You good sir are incredibly stubborn


If I were being stubborn, I would just say "No".

I am giving reasons why I am not going to just embrace things that haven't been completely confirmed.

But if you have anything else useless to add, be my guest.

  • 09.29.2011 7:44 PM PDT

By saying something useless and potentially idiotic, I just lifted the mood even, even if that lift was small.

On topic, why are you jumping down each others throats about it?

  • 09.29.2011 7:52 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: RedsoxFreak101
By saying something useless and potentially idiotic, I just lifted the mood even, even if that lift was small.

On topic, why are you jumping down each others throats about it?


I didn't intend to, but SOMEONE had to try to be funny and cause a flame war.

  • 09.29.2011 7:53 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: RedsoxFreak101
By saying something useless and potentially idiotic, I just lifted the mood even, even if that lift was small.

On topic, why are you jumping down each others throats about it?


I didn't intend to, but SOMEONE had to try to be funny and cause a flame war.


Why did you retaliate then if you didnt want to?

  • 09.29.2011 7:54 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: RedsoxFreak101

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: RedsoxFreak101
By saying something useless and potentially idiotic, I just lifted the mood even, even if that lift was small.

On topic, why are you jumping down each others throats about it?


I didn't intend to, but SOMEONE had to try to be funny and cause a flame war.


Why did you retaliate then if you didnt want to?


Weak will on my part. Me and Ruby don't quite see eye-to-eye, but you know that.

  • 09.29.2011 7:56 PM PDT

https://www.facebook.com/Number01Starscream

found a video of DecepticonCobra eating


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: RedsoxFreak101

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: RedsoxFreak101
By saying something useless and potentially idiotic, I just lifted the mood even, even if that lift was small.

On topic, why are you jumping down each others throats about it?


I didn't intend to, but SOMEONE had to try to be funny and cause a flame war.


Why did you retaliate then if you didnt want to?


Weak will on my part. Me and Ruby don't quite see eye-to-eye, but you know that.

  • 09.29.2011 8:42 PM PDT