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Subject: UNSC INFINITY discussion


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: RedsoxFreak101
^You good sir are incredibly stubborn


If I were being stubborn, I would just say "No".

I am giving reasons why I am not going to just embrace things that haven't been completely confirmed.

But if you have anything else useless to add, be my guest.


Extensive reasoning =/= valid argument.
It's called conflicting information. And in this specific situation, an argument does not have to be complicated in order to be valid. For example: You giving multple reasons as to why the UNSC won't appear in Halo 4 pertaining to how humanity is crippled and unorganized. Then me showing obvious reasons as to their involvement in the game with all of their confirmed aspects (like the Warthog, Infinity, etc. (Nobody but you, Rag and a couple others think the game will revolve around camping at the Dawn. It's not going to happen.))

Information given by the developers themselves trump the information given in the Encyclopedia. (And I am most CERTAINLY not referring to Bungie when I say this. "This is the first times civilians have ever been in a Halo game" -Bungie in the Halo: Reach commentary; DURRR)

343 is likely to retcon the Encyclopedia too. A game is more significant than a little book which violated the canon itself by including Believe and Ilovebees.

[Edited on 09.29.2011 8:55 PM PDT]

  • 09.29.2011 8:43 PM PDT


Posted by: RedsoxFreak101

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: RedsoxFreak101
By saying something useless and potentially idiotic, I just lifted the mood even, even if that lift was small.

On topic, why are you jumping down each others throats about it?


I didn't intend to, but SOMEONE had to try to be funny and cause a flame war.


Why did you retaliate then if you didnt want to?


It shows that he respects me more than Grey does. :/
That or what Cobra said. Probably the latter.

[Edited on 09.29.2011 8:52 PM PDT]

  • 09.29.2011 8:44 PM PDT

Ruby, you ignore the fact 343 has said the 2554 warthog was in the FuD's vehicle bay. You ignore that fact repeatedly by constantly whining "THE UNSC MUST BE IN HALO 4!"

Um, me, Cobra, Rag, and the others? I've been the only one who even states using the FuD as a R&R base. The others have never really supported or been against the idea.

Really, you are just coming across as "You don't agree with this vague information/possible leak, you don't know a lick of information!"

You toss confirmed WAY to lightly as well. "Concept art? CONFIRMED HEAVY UNSC PRESENCE IN GAME" When really it could be the UNSC infinity arrives during the last level, or not at all. You go "Halo 4 warthog and teaser trailer weapon? CONFIRMED UNSC PRESENCE ACROSS THE ENTIRE GAME" When the halo 4 warthog aka 2554 model has been stated to be in the Foward Unto Dawn's hanger bay.

Concept art has never been 100% set in stone.

To Coma's comments... I could see the UNSC having the sol system somewhat recovered in the span of a few years... but producing brand new, technologically advanced large ships? It just seems like that'd be a very odd priority when they should be trying to reclaim what surviving inner colonies their are.


Oh, and Number01Hustler is a troll plain and simple.

  • 09.29.2011 11:06 PM PDT

https://www.facebook.com/Number01Starscream

you think your some some tough guy something? huh pal?


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Ruby, you ignore the fact 343 has said the 2554 warthog was in the FuD's vehicle bay. You ignore that fact repeatedly by constantly whining "THE UNSC MUST BE IN HALO 4!"

Um, me, Cobra, Rag, and the others? I've been the only one who even states using the FuD as a R&R base. The others have never really supported or been against the idea.

Really, you are just coming across as "You don't agree with this vague information/possible leak, you don't know a lick of information!"

You toss confirmed WAY to lightly as well. "Concept art? CONFIRMED HEAVY UNSC PRESENCE IN GAME" When really it could be the UNSC infinity arrives during the last level, or not at all. You go "Halo 4 warthog and teaser trailer weapon? CONFIRMED UNSC PRESENCE ACROSS THE ENTIRE GAME" When the halo 4 warthog aka 2554 model has been stated to be in the Foward Unto Dawn's hanger bay.

Concept art has never been 100% set in stone.

To Coma's comments... I could see the UNSC having the sol system somewhat recovered in the span of a few years... but producing brand new, technologically advanced large ships? It just seems like that'd be a very odd priority when they should be trying to reclaim what surviving inner colonies their are.


Oh, and Number01Hustler is a troll plain and simple.

  • 09.29.2011 11:17 PM PDT

Who gives a flying toss about the name? It doesn't matter at all, and there's probably a reason for it.

  • 09.29.2011 11:40 PM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Ruby, you ignore the fact 343 has said the 2554 warthog was in the FuD's vehicle bay. You ignore that fact repeatedly by constantly whining "THE UNSC MUST BE IN HALO 4!"

Um, me, Cobra, Rag, and the others? I've been the only one who even states using the FuD as a R&R base. The others have never really supported or been against the idea.

Really, you are just coming across as "You don't agree with this vague information/possible leak, you don't know a lick of information!"

You toss confirmed WAY to lightly as well. "Concept art? CONFIRMED HEAVY UNSC PRESENCE IN GAME" When really it could be the UNSC infinity arrives during the last level, or not at all. You go "Halo 4 warthog and teaser trailer weapon? CONFIRMED UNSC PRESENCE ACROSS THE ENTIRE GAME" When the halo 4 warthog aka 2554 model has been stated to be in the Foward Unto Dawn's hanger bay.


Wasn't what they said that it could have been produced at the time of Halo 3 and been placed in the Dawn? Or did they actually say that's how it was, I don't really remember, I thought they had referred to it in vague terms and maybes?

I more or less agree with the rest of this. Like Grey's camp you're assuming way too much from too little, Ruby. Nothing has really been confirmed yet, all there is are hints and clues. I feel that the hints and clues indicating that the UNSC will appear in the Reclaimer Trilogy (possibly Halo 4) are much stronger than the information indicating they will not. However neither are truly conclusive at this point. There is no concrete evidence stating one side or the other is absolutely right, Ruby.

Concept art has never been 100% set in stone.

No, but the concept itself often is, especially if they've actually revealed it to the public. Like for instance the Halo 2 level in New Mombasa, the concept playable level that Bungie released as a preview for Halo 2 changed a great deal when Halo 2 finally came out. You still fought in New Mombasa though, that never changed.

To Coma's comments... I could see the UNSC having the sol system somewhat recovered in the span of a few years... but producing brand new, technologically advanced large ships? It just seems like that'd be a very odd priority when they should be trying to reclaim what surviving inner colonies their are.

R&D would still continue over that time though. Rebuilding and researching at the same time aren't that impossible, especially if you are a galactic government spanning multiple planets in multiple systems. I don't see rebuilding and researching at the same time as being mutually exclusive. They'd have to focus on rebuilding their navy anyway, why not try to make improvements to it from the new technology you've discovered and are now actually free to study now that the war's over at the same time?

  • 09.30.2011 11:29 AM PDT
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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact

I more or less agree with the rest of this. Like Grey's camp you're assuming way too much from too little, Ruby. Nothing has really been confirmed yet, all there is are hints and clues. I feel that the hints and clues indicating that the UNSC will appear in the Reclaimer Trilogy (possibly Halo 4) are much stronger than the information indicating they will not. However neither are truly conclusive at this point. There is no concrete evidence stating one side or the other is absolutely right, Ruby.

This

Well said.

Just wait for more news people.

  • 09.30.2011 11:46 AM PDT

Posted by: ElementalRunner

Posted by: Commander Stroll
Still using a pump-action shotgun over 500 years in the future I see.

omg not realistic stop game production plz

I would've preferred UNSC Durandal, but hey, UNSC Infinity still sounds pretty awesome, like the ship which will represent Halo of the future.

I have to say though, I really wanted this just to be John making the ultimate discoveries about the galaxy's history and future. You know like when you have a dream, and you've overcome the troubles/antagonists of your dream, and everything feels wonderful as you head towards waking up?

Halo 6 should end with that feeling.

  • 09.30.2011 1:56 PM PDT

yas334229812

Hope the unsc do come near the end of Halo 4. Hope he has some reconains and survival missions to do before they find some human interactiion. Maybe a scout ship. Also hope the unsc infinity comes in the end to show support is on the way. remember unsc will try to stake their name into as many things as possible so that they can beat the other races in new age. Usher in a new age of prosperity where humanity shall be dominant. bet these are concept art for the whole trilogy.

  • 09.30.2011 2:51 PM PDT


Posted by: OrderedComa
you're assuming way too much from too little, Ruby.


Little, but flashing in bright neon colors like Vegas spelling out the words "UNSC".

  • 09.30.2011 2:58 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

After going over pieces of information from the books and other media, I'll leave the Encyclopedia out since nobody seems to care about it...even though 343 released an updated version last week.

Impossible Life and Possible Death of Admiral Preston J. Cole: States that as of December 31st, 2552, the situation humanity finds itself in is still "highly unstable" and that the insurgency and client Covenant species may pose a threat.

Dr. William Iqbal's Letter: Sates that as of January 31st, 2553, "our civilization has undergone a significant shift. Our populations are decimated, our people scattered, and our military is now at it's weakest since the dawn of slipspace travel."

The UNSC got their hands on Slipsapce travel in 2291. That is a 250+ year gap and we've been reduced to that.

Also stated "The Sangheili have promised nothing-and indeed warned us that they do not yet control either the Covenant client species, or even their own domestic situation."

So the Elites aren't sharing anything.

Halo: Glasslands info: From information regarding Glasslands, we will attempt to steal some Engineers from the Elites.

Halo: Reach extra content: By 2589, it would seem we've at last recolonized Reach and created new space-faring vehicles. By 2610, New Alexandria has been rebuilt, recently or years ago.

Halo: Legends: Cortana starts to talk to the Chief at least by 2555. She claims to be 7 at the time and since she was created in 2549, 2555 should be about the date her monologue takes. SO either that is the time the game is set or they keep drifting for a few more years.

So here is my rough timeline.

Late 2550's: Humanity still recovering, hostilities with Elites and rebels still a big issue.

2580's: New ships are being made and recolonization of glassed worlds being undertaken.

2600's: Humanity is really better off.

So you can see why I don't think the UNSC are going to recover within 10 years or so.

The fact the 2554 Warthog is mentioned would mean that that either the UNSC somehow managed to overcome all this hardship in no time at all, which is really stupid, or they are carrying some understandingly outdated cargo.

That said, it doesn't quite explain how UNSC ships became so advanced. As seen in Reach, it took until the 2580's to resettle on Reach and we saw a ship that kinda looks like the Infinity. I say kinda since we don't get a really good view.

  • 09.30.2011 3:30 PM PDT

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its just a ship stop whining.. smh -_-

[Edited on 09.30.2011 5:09 PM PDT]

  • 09.30.2011 5:07 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

All your statement says is "I can't argue against that."

  • 09.30.2011 5:38 PM PDT

yas334229812


Posted by: Number01Hustler
its just a ship stop whining.. smh -_-


Actually it is a worth question. If you want the canon to be fixed you have to address these problem even small scientific ones. I dont want another star wars type of universe. Although i like star wars the universe has been f'd up by george lucas and his clone wars episodes that destroy the universe. All that was good was destroyed.

The question now is whether when they went through the slipspace time did they move at a really high speed near speed of light for i dont know how long that time went slow for them while for the normal planet it slowed down. Remember Einstein theory of relativity. This could have occured maybe a slight time travel for the next game.

although cobra you are right about the time problem
2580's: New ships are being made and recolonization of glassed worlds being undertaken.
This is mainly on glassed worlds not on world that are newly found and can be easily made habitable. Remember it says 'recolonization' not colonization. This is still to vague to understand and there are many answers to it.

Halo: Glasslands info: From information regarding Glasslands, we will attempt to steal some Engineers from the Elites.
This happened during the end of the war although this could have been undertaken before hand remember odst. There could also be a secret manufacturing base set up by oni somewhere else in a last case resort. Remember from the "impossible life of j preston cold" he had an idea that there needed to be a plan in case earth was attacked. He also expected oni to have taken this into account. Maybe they had build a base way out of known space with few people in need to know basis. Also remember the innies that joined the battle with Preston Cole what if they had already colonized some new planets and were now building new manufacturing plants. They are still unaccounted for.

Dr. William Iqbal's Letter: Sates that as of January 31st, 2553, "our civilization has undergone a significant shift. Our populations are decimated, our people scattered, and our military is now at it's weakest since the dawn of slipspace travel."
It says military is now at its weakest since the dawn of slipspace not technologically we are that far back. Remember that covenant forces mainly were concentrated around new mombasa not anywhere else although there were covie forces there. Also many sites may have been left untouched and undamaged mainly there could be manufacturing plants on earth still working. Military wise they were weak as they had no ship and their military was as weak as it was since then. Also people are scattered as in around the universe bringing them back will be hard but still look at it this way earth still has at least 200 million residents living and these will move back into reconstruction. They will build and capitalism wont really exist.

"The Sangheili have promised nothing-and indeed warned us that they do not yet control either the Covenant client species, or even their own domestic situation."

So the Elites aren't sharing anything.


What is said here actually is the sanghelli have promised nothing. Meaning it is not definitive that they will support them in any way. Remember how sanghelli are very strict with their beliefs and moral. This was what promised meant they could not guarantee anything as they still had to fix everything they could. Still this leave the possibility that they could help any way they could.

Late 2550's: Humanity still recovering, hostilities with Elites and rebels still a big issue. Not true as rebel are not really in existance. Many rebels joined the unsc to fight the covenant and many stayed it is absolutely stupid for them to attack an already fragile humanity. Also Preston Cole may have thought of the idea of earth falling so he may have ordered his ship to leave with the inseructionist and thus they started a new colony to save humanity if anything happened to earth. This was a necessary task. Also he couldnt tell anyone for if any record existed they could be tracked down.

Halo: Reach extra content: By 2589, it would seem we've at last recolonized Reach and created new space-faring vehicles. By 2610, New Alexandria has been rebuilt, recently or years ago
It says "by" that means we have already recolonized Reach and had already created space-faring vehicles although there were many space-faring vehicles still functioning. Remember the fight against the loyalist. Also this text does hint that they were in masses not in rarity. Mainly the UNSC infinity could be their first try in new thechnology. By 2610 New Alexandria was rebuilt to its former glory although it could have been recolonized many years ago. And already had some new small cities. Also reach could have happened earlier as it was an important planet and had strategic value so the unsc could have put priority over its recolonization. Also humanity needed to scout the unknown galaxies for places that they could colonize without any problem of terraforming. Which is what Infinity could be doing hey it could also be an ONI ship that is searching for artifacts that could be used in human use. Many are still usefull and could help alot. Engineers could help accelerate rebuilding as they may be able to get more done than any humans even Dr. Halsey. This is because of high experience with them. The kidnapping of engineers were based on this idea.

In the end everything i said is speculation and a counter argument which mainly leaves us at point zero. We cannot answer this and will have to wait for 343 to show us the answer. Anyway i believe that Preston Cole had planned to make a colony and this lived in peace prospering quite significantly due to ability of being unknown so they could have later made contact with humanity during peace time and have brought some new technology and ships. Remember they could have also stumbled on forerunner artifact that could have helped them accelerate advancement and later on they may have given some ship to the unsc due to the unsc weak position. This could bring the question of a new government for humanity. One created by the inserructionist and one under the unsc. They may also be at peace due to the vulnerable position of humanity and their leader the wife of Preston Cole influence and understanding. She did while decrease inserructionist activity in her area while with Preston Cole and this could have a factor in it.

Still this is the longest i have written on any forum. And im not criticizing you just giving a counter argument. All we can do now is speculate the answer we still do not know only 343 can answer. Hope you will look at this positively.
Thank You
S.Yasir Ahmed

  • 09.30.2011 5:59 PM PDT

yas334229812

I would also like a reply over the detailed analysis thank you.

  • 09.30.2011 6:00 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Judging from Halo: Legends, probably around 3 years, she does claim to be 7 at the time. I have no answer on the exact time, but if it's before 2610, which the Encyclopedia states Chief is still MIA, it's too soon.

I honestly can't imagine Chief chilling in a cryo tube for 30+ years. It's possible with power, but then that brings up the issue of what is sustaining him for that journey and I'm not sure how much power a ship split in half has after a few years.

That's how I see it.


what if the ship has a nuclear reactor? then i could be powered for a extremely long time.
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  • 09.30.2011 6:03 PM PDT

yas334229812


Posted by: Al1757XNA

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Judging from Halo: Legends, probably around 3 years, she does claim to be 7 at the time. I have no answer on the exact time, but if it's before 2610, which the Encyclopedia states Chief is still MIA, it's too soon.

I honestly can't imagine Chief chilling in a cryo tube for 30+ years. It's possible with power, but then that brings up the issue of what is sustaining him for that journey and I'm not sure how much power a ship split in half has after a few years.

That's how I see it.


what if the ship has a nuclear reactor? then i could be powered for a extremely long time.
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Still what is cooling it and why is it still functioning as the ship is broken and maybe in lockdown. Also wouldn't there have been a meltdown. Still they may have a new technology. This could have answered some of the question. Also they could be droping of at different sites in space or getting supplies and equipments that passed through the portal before it closed

  • 09.30.2011 6:10 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: risay_117
This is mainly on glassed worlds not on world that are newly found and can be easily made habitable. Remember it says 'recolonization' not colonization. This is still to vague to understand and there are many answers to it.


I said both "on glassed worlds" and "recolonization". So I think we are in agreement here.

This happened during the end of the war although this could have been undertaken before hand remember odst.

This particular mission is AFTER the war. And if we're desperate enough to potentially get into a conflict with the Elites over som3 Engineers, we must be hurting for some scientific edge.

There could also be a secret manufacturing base set up by oni somewhere else in a last case resort.

If so, then that base wasn't pushing out ships, ammo, and weapons fast enough. Our fleet was decimated at Reach and at Earth. If ONI had such a base, we didn't get much from it. I'm not denying they have such bases, but something you imagine doesn't have much evidence going for it.

Remember from the "impossible life of j preston cold" he had an idea that there needed to be a plan in case earth was attacked. He also expected oni to have taken this into account. Maybe they had build a base way out of known space with few people in need to know basis. Also remember the innies that joined the battle with Preston Cole what if they had already colonized some new planets and were now building new manufacturing plants. They are still unaccounted for.

Yes, and the plan Cole had in mind was The Cole Protocol. The Halo wiki, though I may not always agree with it, has a pretty good list of what it entails.

It says military is now at its weakest since the dawn of slipspace not technologically we are that far back.

I don't think we need to argue about how messed up humanity as a whole is. The Outer Colonies are gone, there goes a major manufacturing and agricultural base. The Covenant bypassed some Inner Colonies, but humanity had relied on the Outer Colonies AND Inner Colonies for a long time, the Inner Colonies may make things a bit easier, but it's still a farcry from the past.

Besides, Earth itself was hit pretty hard. Cuba, New Mombasa, Kenya, Antarctica, and Cleveland, Ohio were just some of the places hit. Heck, they even hit Mars.

Remember that covenant forces mainly were concentrated around new mombasa not anywhere else although there were covie forces there.

They also had sizable forces in both Cleveland and Cuba.

Also many sites may have been left untouched and undamaged mainly there could be manufacturing plants on earth still working.

I'm sure some sites remain, but the Covenant didn't just stick to Africa, it was a pretty global deal.

Military wise they were weak as they had no ship and their military was as weak as it was since then. Also people are scattered as in around the universe bringing them back will be hard but still look at it this way earth still has at least 200 million residents living and these will move back into reconstruction. They will build and capitalism wont really exist.

So what your saying is that our military is weak, we still have a lot of people still scattered and out population has been reduced considerably? Add that with a weakened infrastructure and you have hard times.

What is said here actually is the sanghelli have promised nothing. Meaning it is not definitive that they will support them in any way. Remember how sanghelli are very strict with their beliefs and moral. This was what promised meant they could not guarantee anything as they still had to fix everything they could. Still this leave the possibility that they could help any way they could.

The Elites don't have the means to fix anything. The Prophets held h e knowledge of building and adapting Forerunner technology, since they are gone the Elites have no manufacturing facilities and are watching their own ships decay with no way to repair them.

Not true as rebel are not really in existance. Many rebels joined the unsc to fight the covenant and many stayed it is absolutely stupid for them to attack an already fragile humanity. Also Preston Cole may have thought of the idea of earth falling so he may have ordered his ship to leave with the inseructionist and thus they started a new colony to save humanity if anything happened to earth. This was a necessary task. Also he couldnt tell anyone for if any record existed they could be tracked down.

You are completely wrong about the rebels not being a threat. Master Chief and Blue Team had to steal nukes from a rebel group during the war. Not only that, but after the events of Halo, Chief and some survivors from the Halo event and Reach traveled to a rebel hideout in an asteroid belt to get their ship repaired. Spartan-IIIs were also deployed to take out insurrectionists uprisings, Noble Six was notable for making rebel groups disappear.

The Cole thing you bring up is a possibility, but according to the story about him, it's also likely he may fight against us or just not care.

-snip-

Next time, would you mind breaking your giant paragraph into several smaller ones? It's annoying to see a giant wall of text. And the picture at the end of Reach shows a ship landing a few small buildings, hardly a complete recolonization. The rest was so jumbled up, I didn't bother.

In the end everything i said is speculation and a counter argument which mainly leaves us at point zero.


I don't exactly agree, but I do see some of your points.

  • 09.30.2011 6:32 PM PDT

yas334229812

i could do better but i like to get things done faster and usually have not the patience for it. My writing have alot in it but are really disorganized and mainly a flow of conscious which is a problem. I usually want to get my point out and its usually ends up longer than i expect. Sorry for any problems.

Still hope this thread is still active as this is the only info we have on the future of the universe. Bet something will be released during halo combat evolved not forerunner but about humans snippits of it. Well mainly thats why we are waiting for Halo Glasslands.

  • 09.30.2011 6:41 PM PDT


Posted by: Ruby of the Blue

Posted by: OrderedComa
you're assuming way too much from too little, Ruby.


Little, but flashing in bright neon colors like Vegas spelling out the words "UNSC".


Still not confirmed though, Ruby, it's strong hints, sure, but nothing has really been confirmed yet other than the story being about Master Chief and Cortana again and that we'll be on the Legendary Planet for some part of the game.

  • 09.30.2011 7:22 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
The fact the 2554 Warthog is mentioned would mean that that either the UNSC somehow managed to overcome all this hardship in no time at all, which is really stupid


How unfortunate for you then.

"Humanity is actually pretty capable when they're not being knocked back on their heels by the Covenant."
-343

[Edited on 09.30.2011 7:48 PM PDT]

  • 09.30.2011 7:46 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: Ruby of the Blue

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
The fact the 2554 Warthog is mentioned would mean that that either the UNSC somehow managed to overcome all this hardship in no time at all, which is really stupid


How unfortunate for you then.

"Humanity is actually pretty capable when they're not being knocked back on their heels by the Covenant."
-343


Seems rather odd that humanity can make starships that appear to be far more technologically advanced even when sources say their infrastructure, population base, and military is in shambles, so much so that they have to steal Engineers from the Elites.

Really screams deus ex machina.

  • 09.30.2011 7:50 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Ruby of the Blue

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
The fact the 2554 Warthog is mentioned would mean that that either the UNSC somehow managed to overcome all this hardship in no time at all, which is really stupid


How unfortunate for you then.

"Humanity is actually pretty capable when they're not being knocked back on their heels by the Covenant."
-343


Seems rather odd that humanity can make starships that appear to be far more technologically advanced even when sources say their infrastructure, population base, and military is in shambles, so much so that they have to steal Engineers from the Elites.

Really screams deus ex machina.


Hey, we don't know exactly how Halo 4 will introduce them or what state they'll be in.
We don't know exactly how long it takes place after Halo 3.

  • 09.30.2011 7:55 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: Ruby of the Blue

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Ruby of the Blue

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
The fact the 2554 Warthog is mentioned would mean that that either the UNSC somehow managed to overcome all this hardship in no time at all, which is really stupid


How unfortunate for you then.

"Humanity is actually pretty capable when they're not being knocked back on their heels by the Covenant."
-343


Seems rather odd that humanity can make starships that appear to be far more technologically advanced even when sources say their infrastructure, population base, and military is in shambles, so much so that they have to steal Engineers from the Elites.

Really screams deus ex machina.


Hey, we don't know exactly how Halo 4 will introduce them or what state they'll be in.
We don't know exactly how long it takes place after Halo 3.


If it's only a few years, ie 4-5 years, after Halo 3, I'm going to call BS.

If it's say in the 2580's, that's better. We saw advanced looking ships in Halo: Reach's epilogue. Not sold on it quite yet, the fact Reach has gotten better is promising for the future, but it would seem humanity has started to finally really rebuild what they had lost.

If it's in the 2600's, I'm cool with it.

[Edited on 09.30.2011 7:59 PM PDT]

  • 09.30.2011 7:58 PM PDT

The simple fact of the matter here is that we do not have a definitive time frame on the game so there is no point in arguing about it. Both of you two have very valid points that are all dependent on one time frame or another.

  • 09.30.2011 8:49 PM PDT