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Subject: people, lets build our own Halo

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No I freaking told you to cut the hose off, if i told to pull it off then i would have said pull it off. Now you broke the AC you dumb ass.
Me to my mother.

Posted by: GuyamanJaro
Technically, how would you get the thing to spin at such a speed to the point where it could sustain a good gravity field. I mean earth spins at like 1000 mph or some stuff like that. Not to mention if the ring stopped spinning, the atmosphere won't, and that wouldn't be good to have.



WTH 1000mph

  • 04.25.2006 11:09 PM PDT
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Well i'm pledging my full support to this project, this guy has a good idea, Two miles across to prevent dizzyness from the rotation for the gravity. I think this could work. microsoft could pledge it's banks to this we could do it, i mean Bill Gates has the Tech to project a Macdonalds 'M' on the moon, he could get us the supplies we need, well also need a power supply to keep it in stableization or rotation around Earth. We would make Millions off it.

If you can get Microsoft to Sponser then you've go my support 100% of the way

[Edited on 4/26/2006]

  • 04.26.2006 1:28 AM PDT

Ye Gods people, what is wrong with you.

There is as much chance of elvis being the next president of taiwan as there is of this "project" getting of the ground.

I cant belive that people are still coming on here and pledging support. I'd like to see the next kid who is serious about doing this to go to university and study for the next 30 40 years all the tech that is going to be needed to even attempt to get this up and runninig. Somehow i think if you faced up to the reality of studying for that long you might cool off on the idea.

  • 04.26.2006 5:28 AM PDT
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Hey, why not? I'll help! This will probably go with the Spartan II Project I'm working on!

  • 04.26.2006 7:07 AM PDT
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I'll volunteer, this could be cool.

  • 04.26.2006 4:10 PM PDT
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Posted by: Blackhawk75
Ye Gods people, what is wrong with you.

There is as much chance of elvis being the next president of taiwan as there is of this "project" getting of the ground.

I cant belive that people are still coming on here and pledging support. I'd like to see the next kid who is serious about doing this to go to university and study for the next 30 40 years all the tech that is going to be needed to even attempt to get this up and runninig. Somehow i think if you faced up to the reality of studying for that long you might cool off on the idea.


i have alrdy said it once but yea im helping and the reason why im quoting this guy is cause his mean and should just stop nay saying and not come to this thread if he doesnt like it and no im not a little kid im 16 but i do act like a little kid.

  • 04.26.2006 4:15 PM PDT
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<I/>but do you honestly think that world governments would let it happen? lets have a reality check here, the international space station (which is backed by both the US and Russia) is falling apart. In a few more years it will be uninhabitable and then burn up in earths atmosphere. Now if the richest country in the world cant afford to keep something as small as the international space station afloat then how can private enterprise possible hope to finance something on this scale? in addition can anyone here honestly see any country in the world getting behind this project? china? iran? australia? sweden? no country would back it, and you do need permission to send a craft through soverign airspace. The renders look great but unfortunatly thats as far as its going to get. sorry to burst anyones bubble. <I>





All we have to do is trick the middle easterns (they're all so rich from gas) to pledge support and to have them give us money by tricking them that we're a terrorist group and then it could happen.

  • 04.26.2006 4:31 PM PDT
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lol. Idiot.


First, prove that u or anyone else has invented any of the stuff u metioned.

LOL!

  • 04.26.2006 6:42 PM PDT
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Posted by: Guitarpimp
<I/>but do you honestly think that world governments would let it happen? lets have a reality check here, the international space station (which is backed by both the US and Russia) is falling apart. In a few more years it will be uninhabitable and then burn up in earths atmosphere. Now if the richest country in the world cant afford to keep something as small as the international space station afloat then how can private enterprise possible hope to finance something on this scale? in addition can anyone here honestly see any country in the world getting behind this project? china? iran? australia? sweden? no country would back it, and you do need permission to send a craft through soverign airspace. The renders look great but unfortunatly thats as far as its going to get. sorry to burst anyones bubble. <I>





All we have to do is trick the middle easterns (they're all so rich from gas) to pledge support and to have them give us money by tricking them that we're a terrorist group and then it could happen.
wow. just wow. that's got to be the most oringinal idea for funding i've ever heard. too bad it's IMPOSSIBLE TO PULL OFF. almost as impossible to pull off as this damn ring.

  • 04.26.2006 6:42 PM PDT
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Posted by: Half_Jaw
Well i'm pledging my full support to this project, this guy has a good idea, Two miles across to prevent dizzyness from the rotation for the gravity. I think this could work. microsoft could pledge it's banks to this we could do it, i mean Bill Gates has the Tech to project a Macdonalds 'M' on the moon, he could get us the supplies we need, well also need a power supply to keep it in stableization or rotation around Earth. We would make Millions off it.

If you can get Microsoft to Sponser then you've go my support 100% of the way



The problem with your thinking, is that you belive that Microsoft would want to do this. Microsoft isnt going to waste its time and money building a halo, or anything for that matter, that DOES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. BorealFace talks about this like he thinks it would be some sort of vacation resort, well guess what, theres no point when there are already plenty of places for vacation on earth. Its a cool idea, but somewhere you have to draw the line between reality+practicallity vs an idea. All the people who say look at those inventers who got laughed at, think for a second. They had a real solid plan. A blue print or a design. All this guy has is a big imagination and some pretty good skills in 3DStudio Max. Its one thing to say: Lets build solar power robots, and another to design, program, test, and produce them. So go ahead and say "Im in", just dont complain when you realize that this is impossible on so many different levels.


BTW: I think your fearless leader has left all of you to rot

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  • 04.26.2006 6:45 PM PDT
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Why hasn't this ridiculous, moronic thread died yet. Why hasn't its creator come out and said, "HAH! I can't believe how gullible you all are! You actually signed up for this thing!" Yeah, I know some of you "volunteered" as a joke, but some of you didn't; you really think there's a chance.

GIVE IT UP. The only reason that Moderators haven't blocked this is because it's entertaining to see how gullible you all are.

LET. THIS. THREAD. DIE. PLEASE. It's taking up space on the front page that could be used for a better, more relevant thread. I've already posted about thirty scientific, economic, and policy reasons why this is fundamentally impossible now or in the near future, and I won't justify this thread anymore with legitimate effort.

LET. THIS. THREAD. DIE. I'M BEGGING ALL OF YOU.

  • 04.26.2006 6:55 PM PDT
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Your forgetting that no one yet owns space. It's a public access (Well if you can get there).
The USA, China, Russia, Japan, Germany, the British and Australia (The most powerful nations) can't stop us, any act to do so would be a Break of the Laws Of War (As they have all sighned the Kyoto thingy) and if they do it's an Crime of war and might lead to War, perhaps WWIII, any things possible if they would openly attack and no one, Except me I like war, would risk a open fight with the most powerful nations. Unless they all become allies, then were bonned. Unless we make the ring a monitor station as well and give the USA a station on it 'cause they gots the allies to defend.

Oh and twotargets fulla, they could use it as a reserch station to monitar deep space signals and observe planets and space-borne effects on people (They would offer it to the other Nations reserch Wings of the goverment, and who knows, it could be the start of the Planet Defence Force Navy, PDFN) and also as 1st wonder of known space, Truly the 8th wonder of the industrial world, and prove that we gots the power to do anything we want, even if it does nothing. That and Microsoft Might not waste there money on it, but one of the nations might.

[Edited on 4/26/2006]

  • 04.26.2006 7:37 PM PDT
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The US didn't ratify the Kyoto treaty.

And while nobody owns space, if you think anyone will allow such a thing as this ring to be built without their input, that's out of the question. The larger countries would never allow another country to build it, cooperation of this scale is almost entirely out of the picture, and there are way too many financial problems to calculate.

  • 04.26.2006 7:50 PM PDT
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Well thats tru, but if we can get the majority of the nations (The powerful ones) to help than the other might back down or help, i mean this might be the only chance we get in our lifetimes to build something like this in like 100's of years, plus it wouldn't be used for Weapons manufactoring or have any weapons on it, just as the earth would become more and more polluated, and the massive Metor headding our way, it's best if we get this Tech line up and running, and then well sell the blue-prints to the highest bidder, with our robots but well also put a fail-safe on it to shut it down or destroy it if they put weapons on it.
These could supply us with a way out of extinction and let Mankind live on, drifting through the stars like gods! (Well the gods thing was a little.....over the top, but you get the point)

  • 04.26.2006 8:13 PM PDT
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The earth and the Halo's gravity are not the same. earth's gravity comes from it's mass and inertia, not it's spin or tangential velocity, as far as i know. if it did, we would be thrown off into space.

The Halo works because we are standing on the inside of the ring, not the outside of the planet. Certain elements of acceleration can be engineered (i got a figure of exaclty 7000m/s) so that you could feel the same "gravity" of earth. i say "gravity" because its not real. It is your mass times the radial acceleration of the ring. you are held down because of a normal force (that means, the force of the ground) resists this acceleration, and so you don't get thrown into space.

so it is possible to build a 10,000 km space station with earth's gravity. but it'd have to spin at 7000m/s, and complete a revolution in about 1.25 hours. which is ridiculous.

i dont know if Bungie did the math, or if this is normal behaviour for a spinning object, but that seems really high. maybe there is some factor of inerita, but for a hollow ring, there shouldn't be.

the Halo weapon can be built as well. but not by us.

  • 04.26.2006 11:04 PM PDT
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It's no impossible, infact they could build it right now if they wanted (Anyone with the money) and use it as they see fit, but not with the ultra-super weapon in it. Unless they put thousand of Nuke in each planet and make the remote control from the ring/s. And it only needs to be 2km across and spinning at 1000-2000km to create 'Gravity' effect. Thats to say that its spinning is to force us to move to the center point of gravity (On earth it's speed is 9.8 m/s), and as the ring has round center point we will be pull down and will feel like we are on earth (Thats if we Get it to move a 1000km per hour to get a pull of that on earth).

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  • 04.26.2006 11:13 PM PDT

this topic creator needs to get a life and probly a tan and probly some acne cream

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"Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't"
Posted by: Ikwa
Lets Speak French!!!

lets not and say we did

Posted by: Fr4gNiNj4
(note to self: join Apple's team always, as he is a god)

Wow im glad you didnt design the house i live in. Some people eh..

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Posted by: Half_Jaw
Oh and twotargets fulla, they could use it as a reserch station to monitar deep space signals and observe planets and space-borne effects on people (They would offer it to the other Nations reserch Wings of the goverment, and who knows, it could be the start of the Planet Defence Force Navy, PDFN) and also as 1st wonder of known space, Truly the 8th wonder of the industrial world, and prove that we gots the power to do anything we want, even if it does nothing. That and Microsoft Might not waste there money on it, but one of the nations might.


But whats the point? I get the observing planets thing, but in order to do that, the ring would have to be somewhat stationary, which as the others have said is impossible if you would want a gravity on it. As for a millitary installation such as you PDFN, i have to ask again, whats the point? As far as we know, theres nothing out there, and while i have nothing against people who believe that there is life out there, the fact of the matter is that we dont know, and no one on the world is going to spend the money for a remote chance that there is life out there that is he11 bent on destroying us. As for monitoring deep space signals and studying the effects of no gravity on people, why not just use the moon. Heck even that is a bad idea, but IF the world gov'ts wanted to do that kind of thing, they wouldnt bother to build a ring.

  • 04.27.2006 4:01 PM PDT
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The first time I looked at this thread I thought that it was a joke, so I chuckled a bit and moved on. But now I'm terribly frightened to see that this man is entirely serious. I'm afraid... no, no I shouldn't say it...




I'm afraid Chuck Norris couldn't even make this work.




Damnit!!!! *punches self in crotch*

  • 04.27.2006 4:03 PM PDT

I have to agree with death dealer. Besides, there are many problem with this. For one, it takes millions of dollars just to get a rocket into space. Then you would need about 1 or 200 of them. Then for some AI chips you would need a couple more million dollars. Then, the robot thing is impossible. The only robot we could have is one that goes on treads. This would require floating in space, and in space you are constantly moving, so you can't stay and build a ring. For all the metal, thats a few more billion dollars. On mars, we had a 7 min. delay from the time when the robot moved, to the time when you could actually see what it was doing. Then the robot has to move at an EXTREMLY slow speed, since if you move to fast, with the time delay the robot would hit something and blow up, causeing a chain reaction. Then you would probably need people in a space station to moniter things, and fix anything that breaks. That would be BILLIONS upon billions or dollars, then you have to find people dumb enough to do it. Sure living in space seems cool, but look at the dangers. If one tank blows, you all die. One hole in a wall, you all die. And many more. Then you would need a few more space suttles to go up there and refuel the space station, while still making it back on it's own. Then, without a current atmosphere, the plants would die because they don't live on oxygen, they live on what humans breath out. And if you put a pre-programmed atmosphere in a glass dome, whenever you took it off, all the plants would die. Then to get people to live there, they would EACH have to pay millions, because it is expensive to fly there. Then to build casinos? That would require 24/7 attaintion, just like hotels(which I'll get to in a min.) and people would also need jobs, which means it is n garden of eden. And where there's a casino, theres cheaters, people who gamble and lose their money and then the streets would be filled with homeless people. Then when it gets overpopulated, others wil still want to join, but they can't. This would cause riots, sabatoge, and other bad things. To run a good hotel, you would need a pool, game room etc. No right minded person would waste water on enjoyment. You need it to live. The game room would take lots of electricity, meaning that that's less for the ring. Then to keep a stable atmoshpere, you would need constant survaliance, therefore you would be giving people the option to end your lives. Then, if you want people to live there, why need hotels? Not even Bill Gates would pay $10 million or so, just to get up there, then an extra thousand dollars for a hotel room, just to stay for a week. I could come up with so many more, butI have run out of time. This has been a very entertaining 10 min. Bye.

  • 04.27.2006 4:28 PM PDT
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the Halo is the zero g point of the gas giant and one of it's moon...that's why it does fly off into space.

if we were to build a space station of some kind, and wanted it to stay in one place, we would have to build it directly in between the moon and earth, at the point where gravity was zero (the sum of gravity, that is).

a Halo is possible in every way. its just not practical, in any way.

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Posted by: pika ownage
are you all 6? do you not understand that this is impossible?


who care if it is or is not possible just let us have our fun and no not all of us are 6 some are 16

  • 04.27.2006 5:07 PM PDT