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-Clarifying the Fall of Reach and its inconsistencies with the book and game.
Halo: Reach was made by ONI.
This.
There is no real explanation needed here, as Bungie already gave one with the Limited and Legendary Editions of the game: Reach (the game) is a playable reconstruction of the events that happened on Reach.
Made from images of security cams, helmet cams (see cutscenes), reports, rumours etc etc. Don't forget that in the midst of the Fall of Reach there was utter chaos and massive destruction: communication probably went all wrong, not all data was stored properly or was destroyed etc etc etc.
Add to that: ONI did intend Reach (the game) to be propaganda somewhat. This is why everything seems less desperate and failed as it actually was in the books (which are the actual account of things, but don't forget FoR doesn't even feature the battle in much detail!), and why they probably lasted 3 weeks etc.
Lastly: the inaccuracies regarding the PoA being on Reach is just to fit the games together a lot better for those who don't read the books and could care less about canon being messed up at that point....you know, probably 75% of those who played the game...
Huh?
So what the Noble Team did all time on Reach.
Lol if this is a proganda then ONI officially trolled us all like they are good at.
Propaganda as in:
- Fleet wasn't that big (opposed the the truth: HUGE attacking Fleet)
- Spartans fighting a noble war, sacrifising everything for Humanity
- Fighting the battle for 3 weeks fairly well before losing (while in fact they lost within days and 3 weeks later when Chief shows up again, there are just a few soldiers left)
- Making it look as if Noble's actions made us win the war in the end.
etc etc.
True: it is not the "we are unbeatable, everything is good" propaganda you might think of. But it shows a whole lot more positive take on the battle, than the one which is more accurate (the books)So ONI wants to tell people that
A) Spartans can die.
B) They knew Covenant knew Reach's location weeks before it fell, and didn't start evacuating.
C.1) Top secert Sabre project indeed exists.
C.2) Forerunners exist(ed).
That propaganda theory is BS IMO.
Ehm...
1: Its dated 2553....after the War. That means people know Spartans can die (they assume Chief is dead for instance) and ONI most likely had to come out with the full story about the S2 program. Same goes for the Sabre program, which probably doesn't even exist anymore because it was destroyed at Reach.
Same goes for Forerunners: hard to keep that secret when the Ark and its Portal are so obvious...
Besides: we never saw any evac from Reach prior to the invasion of New Alexandria. But that doesn't mean evac just started at that moment...
But I'm fine with people not wanting to call it propaganda. Way to go making a whole fuss about that term. You just can't ignore this which shows that Reach (the game) was at least an internal ONI attempt to reconstruct what happened on Reach...
So ok, lets agree on it not being propaganda. But ignoring the fact that its a reconstruction and therefore is bound to be inconsistent with the actual events is just ignorant.