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Subject: The timeless one - Manufactured Machine or Trans-sentient being?

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  • 10.03.2011 8:46 AM PDT

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Why a machine?

  • 10.03.2011 8:53 AM PDT
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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact

From Greg Bear on the Primodium reveal on Waypoint:

I'm having great fun working through the action and growing mysteries in Halo:Primordium, as humans engage in an epic odyssey across a damaged, war-torn Halo, facing the Flood,rogue AIs, and the stunning testament of the Last Precuror...

I think he too confirms the TO is the last Precursor.

Regadless i'm more intrested hat that testament is,i bet that testament will play a huge role in the reclaimer trilogy and is related to "the answer"

  • 10.03.2011 8:57 AM PDT

I am Field Master Avu Med 'Telcam, Servant of the Abiding Truth, and I have many brothers.

A god who creates tools is still a god. It is not for us to impose qualifications upon the divine or presume to guess its intentions.

It is not full machine. I believe it is bio-engineered. Like the Huragok. Part Precursor, part AI. Although I'm somewhat upset you didn't ask my permission, you at least gave me credit for taking my thread.

  • 10.03.2011 8:59 AM PDT

I am Field Master Avu Med 'Telcam, Servant of the Abiding Truth, and I have many brothers.

A god who creates tools is still a god. It is not for us to impose qualifications upon the divine or presume to guess its intentions.

In the description of Primordium it states the timeless one" claims to be the last precursor."
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From Greg Bear on the Primodium reveal on Waypoint:

I'm having great fun working through the action and growing mysteries in Halo:Primordium, as humans engage in an epic odyssey across a damaged, war-torn Halo, facing the Flood,rogue AIs, and the stunning testament of the Last Precuror...

I think he too confirms the TO is the last Precursor.

Regadless i'm more intrested hat that testament is,i bet that testament will play a huge role in the reclaimer trilogy and is related to "the answer"

  • 10.03.2011 9:00 AM PDT
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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact


Posted by: anish panchalin

Posted by: hotshot revan II
From Greg Bear on the Primodium reveal on Waypoint:

I'm having great fun working through the action and growing mysteries in Halo:Primordium, as humans engage in an epic odyssey across a damaged, war-torn Halo, facing the Flood,rogue AIs, and the stunning testament of the Last Precuror...

I think he too confirms the TO is the last Precursor.

Regadless i'm more intrested hat that testament is,i bet that testament will play a huge role in the reclaimer trilogy and is related to "the answer"



I believe the testament is this :"and our answer is at hand". as far as I know, the testament and the answer are one and the same (most likely the flood).


But he distinguished the Flood , AIs and the testament from eachother in that quote, and if the Flood is the testament then it isn't stunning because the Flood is known for 10000 years in that galaxy.

We will have to wait and see however but i bet it blow us away like Cryptum did :)

[Edited on 10.03.2011 9:05 AM PDT]

  • 10.03.2011 9:02 AM PDT

I am Field Master Avu Med 'Telcam, Servant of the Abiding Truth, and I have many brothers.

A god who creates tools is still a god. It is not for us to impose qualifications upon the divine or presume to guess its intentions.

This is basically my thread with a poll...lol

  • 10.03.2011 9:03 AM PDT

Ad Infinitum

*sits and waits for DecepticonCobra to post*

[Edited on 10.03.2011 10:59 AM PDT]

  • 10.03.2011 10:57 AM PDT

Ad Infinitum

Well, the last Halo novel I read was Ghosts of Onyx, so I don't know much about him besides what I've already read in the Universe forum. Haven't had a chance to check out the new series.

Edit: All I really know is that he's pretty big, and may or may not be the Gravemind. Or may or may not use the Gravemind as a voice.

[Edited on 10.03.2011 11:09 AM PDT]

  • 10.03.2011 11:06 AM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

"If what the Old Ones made is loose..."-pg. 138 - Cryptum

This sounds more like a reference to the Flood, as the TO says the Precursors created them (assuming we can take his word for it).

  • 10.03.2011 11:11 AM PDT


Posted by: anish panchalin

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"If what the Old Ones made is loose..."-pg. 138 - Cryptum

This sounds more like a reference to the Flood, as the TO says the Precursors created them (assuming we can take his word for it).


tbh you can interpret the quote either way (flood or TO). and for some strange reason I have a feeling that the flood is only a part of the precursors answer. It just seems anti-climatic, seeing that we've known about the flood threat for years, way before cryptum came out and have dealt with them in-game.

But vvhat else could that stunning testament be?

  • 10.03.2011 11:40 AM PDT
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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact


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Posted by: anish panchalin

Posted by: ajw34307
"If what the Old Ones made is loose..."-pg. 138 - Cryptum

This sounds more like a reference to the Flood, as the TO says the Precursors created them (assuming we can take his word for it).


tbh you can interpret the quote either way (flood or TO). and for some strange reason I have a feeling that the flood is only a part of the precursors answer. It just seems anti-climatic, seeing that we've known about the flood threat for years, way before cryptum came out and have dealt with them in-game.

But vvhat else could that stunning testament be?


We don't know,but that's why it's called "stunning" ;)

I bet threads will explode like when Cryptum came(Humans fought Forerunners,last precurosrs,...)

  • 10.03.2011 11:44 AM PDT

I am Field Master Avu Med 'Telcam, Servant of the Abiding Truth, and I have many brothers.

A god who creates tools is still a god. It is not for us to impose qualifications upon the divine or presume to guess its intentions.


Posted by: anish panchalin

Posted by: matman25402
This is basically my thread with a poll...lol


Not to justify taking your threads ideas without asking you but at least this way I can get an overview of who believes what.
...That is what the reply button is for...

  • 10.03.2011 12:22 PM PDT

secret option D: Both.

Started off as a Precursor, become something else.

  • 10.03.2011 12:46 PM PDT
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This is so nerdy

  • 10.03.2011 3:58 PM PDT

"We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds...'
I suppose we all thought that one way or another."
- J. Robert Oppenheimer

Posted by: matman25402
This is basically my thread with a poll...lol
Oh boo hoo. Seriously Matt? You've been given the proper credit from the start.


Anyways to keep it short and simple:
Similar to some of the opinions here, I'd like to believe that the Timeless One is either a Precursor or something made by the Precursors that was bio-engineered.

  • 10.04.2011 8:35 AM PDT

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