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Subject: Halo/Starcraft theory. If you've played Starcraft, come here!

We’ve watched while the stars burned
Out, and creation played in reverse.
The Universe freezing in half-light.
Once I thought to escape.
To end a master, step out of the
Path of collapse. Escape would make us God.
Yet I cannot help but remember one enigma,
A hybrid, elusive destroyer.
This is the one mystery I have not solved.
The only element unaccounted for.

There really are a lot of similarities between them.
Flood=Zerg
Covenant=Protoss
Humans=Terrans
Forerunner=Xel'Naga
These are just basic comparisons, but you get the picture.
What if the comparisons went further than that? What if The Forerunner created both the Flood and Covenant, like the Xel'Naga created the Zerg and Protoss? The Protoss worship the Xel'Naga, and the Covenant worship the Forerunner.
Here's the theory-
The Forerunner had become so advanced that they no longer saw any real ways to advance themselves. They decided that they would attempt to create a life form that would be marked by an excellence of form and mind, one that would be essentially perfect, under the belief that if they were to create such a perfect being they would it would be able to advance itself beyond the Forerunner because it would start off greater than they themselves did. They started experiments on several worlds, and eventually one of the races began to show extrodinary promise. They abandonmed their other races one by one until they were focusing on just the one, the Prophets. The species that they abandoned were the other species of covenant, and the humans. Anyway, they were excited by the progress of the Prophets, but wanted them to go further. However, the Prophets were now too intelligent to be guided as subtley as they once had. The Forerunner decided to reveals themselves to the Prophets in order to continue to shape them. The Prophets see the Forerunner as gods, and begin to worship them. Eventually however, strife occurs between the Prophets, as does in all religons. The Forerunner attempt to calm this, but any assitance they lend to one side or the other merely reinforces the viewpoint of that one sect, and war eventually breaks out. The Forerunner deem the Prophets as a failure, and leave the planet to start anew.

They decide that they should begin a new experiment. The problem with the Prophets, they agree, was their ability to think for themselves, and the inevitable disagreements this will eventually cause. There next species, therefore, must think and act nearly as one, and only attempt to improve the cause of the species as a whole, rather than each individual member attempting to improve itself alone. Thus they begin work on a promising parasite discovered as they travelling from the Prophet's world. It show a remarkable abitlity to work as a collective whole, and they begin to shape that aspect of it. When this species takes over a host it gradually changes the host, strengthening the body without care for how it looks. As they multiply by dividing itself, the physical appearance didn't need to be changed past what occured during the enhancment stage.
The Forerunner saw that the newly named Flood (saw that one coming, did you?), while able to work together remarkably well, were not able to coordinate there efforts into a larger whole. The decided to modify the Flood so it could create Command forms, which would be the leaders behind the flood. The Flood would be able to convert any lifeform into a Command form and use it's knowledge, which would then be shared among all Command forms. This way the Flood could theoretically gain infinite knowledge.
The Command forms did a remarkable job of controlling the Flood. However, the drive to gain knowledge and further the Flood as a whole eventually led them to turn their eye to the single greatest source of knowledge available to them- the Forerunner themselves. And thus, they attacked them, and from the Forerunner that they absorbed they vastly increased their intelligence, and obtained the knowledge to perform basic repairs to starships. However, the Forerunner's knowledge was largely contained within computers, rather than in each individual member of the race, so the Flood only got scattered knowledge. The Forerunner then fled to the ancient fortress worlds that they had used in ages past, when they were still trying to better themselves by conquest. However, some Flood had managed to sneak onboard, and once they reached the worlds, the Flood begin to spread there. They realize then that they will not be able to stop the Flood. In a last attempt to control the Flood, they detroy their own ships so the Flood cannot spread beyond the ring. The Flood on their homeworld, now deprived of food (which had been provided by the Forerunner) die out. The Flood on the rings, however, after devouring the Forerunner and creating a new set of Command forms to control them realize that they will be unable to survive without food. The command forms eventually find cold sleep capsules on the ring world, and as many Infection forms as possible are sent there to await something foolish enough to wake them. The remainder of the Flood on the ring dies off, leaving the only remaining Flood in cold sleep.

Wow, I didn't mean to make this so long... Well, anyway, to all of you that know the basic storyline behind the Xel'Naga, Protoss, and Zerg, this should seem somewhat familiar. And if the end seems a little lame, well, when I started I didn't really intend for this to be so thorough.
If you have a reason why this theory wouldn't work out (there are plenty, I'm sure), please give a reason rather than just saying "Ur a -blam!- moron!"

[Edited on 9/12/2004 12:03:10 PM]

  • 09.11.2004 10:54 PM PDT
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wow that was actually pretty cool

  • 09.11.2004 11:21 PM PDT

We’ve watched while the stars burned
Out, and creation played in reverse.
The Universe freezing in half-light.
Once I thought to escape.
To end a master, step out of the
Path of collapse. Escape would make us God.
Yet I cannot help but remember one enigma,
A hybrid, elusive destroyer.
This is the one mystery I have not solved.
The only element unaccounted for.

Posted by: rommel
wow that was actually pretty cool

Thanks. I try.

[Edited on 9/11/2004 11:26:28 PM]

  • 09.11.2004 11:26 PM PDT

We’ve watched while the stars burned
Out, and creation played in reverse.
The Universe freezing in half-light.
Once I thought to escape.
To end a master, step out of the
Path of collapse. Escape would make us God.
Yet I cannot help but remember one enigma,
A hybrid, elusive destroyer.
This is the one mystery I have not solved.
The only element unaccounted for.

I forgot a connection- Halo is a lot like the Xel'Naga temple on Shakuras (dark templar world).

  • 09.12.2004 9:37 AM PDT

We’ve watched while the stars burned
Out, and creation played in reverse.
The Universe freezing in half-light.
Once I thought to escape.
To end a master, step out of the
Path of collapse. Escape would make us God.
Yet I cannot help but remember one enigma,
A hybrid, elusive destroyer.
This is the one mystery I have not solved.
The only element unaccounted for.

I can't believe no one is posting in this! I'm sure at least some of you have played Starcraft!

  • 09.12.2004 12:00 PM PDT
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i have, it sgot similaritys but tis not exact.plus the protoss are not as large as the covenant, their homeowrld was torn apart by the zerg. plus the zerg can talk(well their leaders can) its still a good thoery but i dont think bungie used starcrafts

  • 09.12.2004 12:08 PM PDT
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Posted by: CX65
i have, it sgot similaritys but tis not exact.plus the protoss are not as large as the covenant, their homeowrld was torn apart by the zerg. plus the zerg can talk(well their leaders can) its still a good thoery but i dont think bungie used starcrafts


Agreed.

And on a side note, didn't the Human Federation create the zerg or something on the lines of that?

  • 09.12.2004 2:45 PM PDT
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yes the human federation created the zerg which turned on the humans

  • 09.12.2004 4:19 PM PDT
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Then there's a flaw right there...

Terrans did create the Zerg, not the Xel'Naga.

Humans didn't create the Flood, but (maybe) the Forerunners did.

  • 09.12.2004 6:40 PM PDT
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You guys know nothing about Starcraft, the Xel'naga created both the Zerg and the Protoss, while Humans evolved naturally.

History of the Zerg: http://www.sclegacy.com/encyclopedia/race_histories.php#z
History of the Protoss: http://www.sclegacy.com/encyclopedia/race_histories.php#p

Owned.

  • 09.12.2004 6:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: jepepper
Then there's a flaw right there...

Terrans did create the Zerg, not the Xel'Naga.

Humans didn't create the Flood, but (maybe) the Forerunners did.
Whoa, dude, you got your facts mixed up. The Xel'Naga created the Zerg, the Confederates tried to use them as a weapon against rebellious colonies.

  • 09.12.2004 7:01 PM PDT

We’ve watched while the stars burned
Out, and creation played in reverse.
The Universe freezing in half-light.
Once I thought to escape.
To end a master, step out of the
Path of collapse. Escape would make us God.
Yet I cannot help but remember one enigma,
A hybrid, elusive destroyer.
This is the one mystery I have not solved.
The only element unaccounted for.

Posted by: The Sarge
Posted by: jepepper
Then there's a flaw right there...

Terrans did create the Zerg, not the Xel'Naga.

Humans didn't create the Flood, but (maybe) the Forerunners did.
Whoa, dude, you got your facts mixed up. The Xel'Naga created the Zerg, the Confederates tried to use them as a weapon against rebellious colonies.

Thanks for the backup. I just thought that they were a little too similiar...
Although I guees that an ancient extinct race is pretty generic (Chozo in the Metroid games as well)

  • 09.12.2004 9:29 PM PDT
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The Forerunners are Jjaro

  • 09.12.2004 10:21 PM PDT

We’ve watched while the stars burned
Out, and creation played in reverse.
The Universe freezing in half-light.
Once I thought to escape.
To end a master, step out of the
Path of collapse. Escape would make us God.
Yet I cannot help but remember one enigma,
A hybrid, elusive destroyer.
This is the one mystery I have not solved.
The only element unaccounted for.

Posted by: MasterChief420
The Forerunners are Jjaro

Oooooh no! Were not going to start Halo/Marathon comparisons here! I've seen what that does!



Just kidding. That is a little off topic, though.

  • 09.12.2004 10:32 PM PDT
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THat's it!! you are pissing me off!! Xel' Naga did create the protoss and the zerg. the humans created the creature known as the OVERMIND. thus they thought they had control.

this theory is flawed as to the fact that the convenent do not worship the forerunners they mearly found the structure and tried to use it for there own. THe forerunner neither made the flood but they did entrap them. because the flood were adaptive by nature, they took them from there planet and put them on the newly constructed halo. the forerunner built halo to stop the flood. but they did keep them in facilities to study them to find a means to eradicate this spicies that would not be so costly.

  • 09.13.2004 12:42 PM PDT

We’ve watched while the stars burned
Out, and creation played in reverse.
The Universe freezing in half-light.
Once I thought to escape.
To end a master, step out of the
Path of collapse. Escape would make us God.
Yet I cannot help but remember one enigma,
A hybrid, elusive destroyer.
This is the one mystery I have not solved.
The only element unaccounted for.

Posted by: Captain_Kill
THat's it!! you are pissing me off!! Xel' Naga did create the protoss and the zerg. the humans created the creature known as the OVERMIND. thus they thought they had control.

this theory is flawed as to the fact that the convenent do not worship the forerunners they mearly found the structure and tried to use it for there own. THe forerunner neither made the flood but they did entrap them. because the flood were adaptive by nature, they took them from there planet and put them on the newly constructed halo. the forerunner built halo to stop the flood. but they did keep them in facilities to study them to find a means to eradicate this spicies that would not be so costly.

1) The humans did not create the Overmind. In Brood War they take it over, but they did not create it.
2) In the Covenant Primer I believe they said that the covenant do worship the Forerunner...although they do use the technology they find, you are right there.
3) What the story behind the Flood really is no one has yet proven. And that they are natuarally adaptive is a plus to my theary, because so were the Zerg parasites.
4) The exact purpose of Halo is also not proven. Guilty Spark is a little insane. Why are the Forerunner dead now, you wonder? Did they blopw themselves up with Halo? Or did they get killed by something else? Or are they not truly gone?
5)
Main Entry: the·o·ry
Pronunciation: 'thE-&-rE, 'thi(-&)r-E
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -ries
Etymology: Late Latin theoria, from Greek theOria, from theOrein
1 : the analysis of a set of facts in their relation to one another
2 : abstract thought : SPECULATION
3 : the general or abstract principles of a body of fact, a science, or an art <music theory>
4 a : a belief, policy, or procedure proposed or followed as the basis of action <her method is based on the theory that all children want to learn> b : an ideal or hypothetical set of facts, principles, or circumstances -- often used in the phrase in theory <in theory, we have always advocated freedom for all>
5 : a plausible or scientifically acceptable general principle or body of principles offered to explain phenomena <wave theory of light>
6 a : a hypothesis assumed for the sake of argument or investigation b : an unproved assumption : CONJECTURE c : a body of theorems presenting a concise systematic view of a subject <theory of equations>
synonym see HYPOTHESIS

  • 09.13.2004 10:15 PM PDT
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starcraft rules! but MC is better

  • 09.14.2004 4:25 AM PDT

We’ve watched while the stars burned
Out, and creation played in reverse.
The Universe freezing in half-light.
Once I thought to escape.
To end a master, step out of the
Path of collapse. Escape would make us God.
Yet I cannot help but remember one enigma,
A hybrid, elusive destroyer.
This is the one mystery I have not solved.
The only element unaccounted for.

What if they had MC in Starcraft? Or made a Halo game where you fought the zerg and stuff? LET THE FLAMING COMMENCE!!!

  • 09.14.2004 4:23 PM PDT
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Those are some really good comparisons there, un gato. I was thinking about this a while back and thought that they did similiar. Also, note the fact that in Halo, the humans are overwhelmed by the Covanent and Flood and in Starcraft the Confederation is also overwhelmed at many points by the Protoss and Zerg.

-Baerdog7

  • 09.14.2004 4:42 PM PDT

We’ve watched while the stars burned
Out, and creation played in reverse.
The Universe freezing in half-light.
Once I thought to escape.
To end a master, step out of the
Path of collapse. Escape would make us God.
Yet I cannot help but remember one enigma,
A hybrid, elusive destroyer.
This is the one mystery I have not solved.
The only element unaccounted for.

Posted by: Baerdog7
Those are some really good comparisons there, un gato. I was thinking about this a while back and thought that they did similiar. Also, note the fact that in Halo, the humans are overwhelmed by the Covanent and Flood and in Starcraft the Confederation is also overwhelmed at many points by the Protoss and Zerg.

-Baerdog7

There is one problem though-the Protoss are good, while the Covenant...well, I guess if they were entirely the same, that wouldn't be a good thing.

  • 09.14.2004 9:36 PM PDT