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holy man. is it just me or is this forum filled with a bunch of people who won't give things a chance? everyones like...I don't like the idea of boosting, i don't like the idea of vehicle jacking, I dont like idont like blah blah blah. give it a rest. no one on this forum has played halo2 short of the bungie staff (thats a direct statement to whomever started the thread about being the luckiest halo fan ever), so until you've played it, stop saying you don't like the idea of it. I trust in bungie 100% that they have made everything balanced out nicely. some people complained about the noise of a turret.....omg give me a break. did anyone say omg that needler sounded horrible in halo 1 it completely wrecked the entire game? no. I think halo2 will be completely amazing so stop whining ur just wrecking the experience for everyone else who realises that bungie will fix everything before the nov. 9th date.

added after reading many complaints of my suggestion
alright sorry i havent replied in a while, but i've read through most of the complaints with my statement. but for the vast majority of them, they are worried about imbalance in the new game. I completely agree with you halo2 would ROYALLY suck if it gave a certain weapon a major disadvantage and balance was lost. BUT i will use the example of rocket tracking as an example: people on this thread said that rocket tracking is a bad idea because it either A, makes vehicles a death trap, or B, it takes away an element of skill. my answer to that is A, there will be plenty more vehicles (including flying vehicles which may be a pain in the ass to shoot down without this feature, and without this feature may just own the place and everyone will want flying vehicles), and B, you still have to have your reticle on the vehicle long enough to activate the shot anyways (which will be difficult now seeing as some of the vehicles like the ghost can boost, can you imagine shooting at a vehicle moving THAT fast with the rocket launcher in the old game? you may as well try to shoot it down with explosive tortoises). Now that i've gotten off track, my point is, the game is not complete as of yet, therefore you cannot say it is not balanced, i dont like the thirty second blip of something i may have seen (an example being a guy thought you could dual melle with dual weapons which was clearly stated that you can't, and now im being hypocritical because im tryign to lay down a fact, which goes against the idea of this post.) NOTHING IS SET IN STONE UNTIL NOV.9TH so relax....plz.

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  • 05.13.2004 12:52 PM PDT
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I agree fully, I too put my full trust in Bungie's hands and expect them to make a great game. I also want people to stop complaining about everything.

  • 05.13.2004 12:55 PM PDT
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tru dat

  • 05.13.2004 12:56 PM PDT
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I don't like what you said!

  • 05.13.2004 12:57 PM PDT
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I agree with you, and I am thinking the same thing myself. No one here has played Halo 2. A week ago, everyone thought Halo 2 was a God send, now you think Halo 2 is questionable. Zanzabar is but one map, a small map, but only one of the many. Have any of you considered that it is easy to board because of the fact it is a close quarters map with tons of high platforms? Look, on a map like Waterworks, I dont doubt the case will be different. I have seen many people complain about boarding and it is getting really very annoying. Before we bash Halo 2 and some of its characteristics, how about we actually wait for November 9th to play it first? And Sgt. Tango, although I agree with you about the whining and complaining, you said something about cluttering the forums with idiotic posts, your doing practically the same thing.

  • 05.13.2004 12:58 PM PDT
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All of the new Halo 2 features look great, the people who complain simply want to look different.

  • 05.13.2004 12:59 PM PDT
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yeah it is gonna be the best game ever. the only complaing im doing is about e3, I want to see some single player action, which is supposed to have even better graphics.

  • 05.13.2004 1:00 PM PDT
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I also totally agree with you Tango. People are gettin' way too strung out about things that haven't even been released yet. Come on people! The game isn't even finished yet!

  • 05.13.2004 1:01 PM PDT

------YOU CAN'T TAKE A GIRL TO THE LIBRARY!------

every hands on i've read from ign, gamespot, or whatever has all said the same thing, it's awesome and they can't get enough. one guy said it would be hard for him to go back and play the first halo. anyone talking bad about the demo is an idiot and scared of change. halo 2 will own no matter how many people whine along the way.

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Yeah I want to see some Single Player videos and screenshots too, but dont take what we are getting from Bungie for grantit. Before we were lucky to get a screenshot once a month, and in the past week we have gotten a number of screenshots and videos. Multiplayer or not, I will gladly take what Bungie gives us.

  • 05.13.2004 1:02 PM PDT
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Good call Sgt Tango I am completly tired of it as well!

  • 05.13.2004 1:03 PM PDT
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I'm just happy with knowing a release date, anyone unhappy with all this information is a damn fool.

  • 05.13.2004 1:05 PM PDT
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well i'm gonna have to play the devil's advocate on this one. Everyone here is a halo fan, we all got that in common. But there's also nothing wrong with someone not agreeing with something that's in the game or something that they percieve to be wrong about the game. For example i read in a review from e3, that someone feels that vehicles are now more of a deathtrap than help because of the inclusion of lock-on target rockets. So if i made a new topic discussing how it could negatively affect gameplay, and my views on the subject. All i'm doing is showing that i'm concerned. If you dont discuss every possible thing that can be wrong with a game. There's a possibility that it will be overlooked and not fixed. In some cases... it doesn't matter how much time they spend testing an incomplete game, because new glitches, bugs and imbalances will surface when the game is complete. So the people who moan and complain are actually participating in the beta testing process without even playing the game. At least that's productive. I dont know about you, but i'd rather not put complete blind faith into people i dont even know with one of my all time favorite video games.

  • 05.13.2004 1:11 PM PDT
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Thats good and fine to not agree with something, but there has been unnecessary bashing of Halo 2 and no one has even played it. Generally, critics are people who have tried the game and come up with a review. But evidently this forum has alot of critics that are judging Halo 2 by two recent video releases. Give me a break, disagreeing with people is fine, but calling Halo 2's multiplayer dissappointing by watching a video is ingnorence.

  • 05.13.2004 1:14 PM PDT
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Well i understand where you're comming from on this. There is a lot of great new additions to Halo2. From customizing your armor, and insignias, vehicle destruction, dual weilding, boosting, hijacking, playing as elites, a new game mode, etc. The game looks great. But it doesn't look perfect despite how strongly many people feel about the franchise. And despite all of the great things in the game... it only takes one screw up to imbalance a game and make it a lot less fun to play than it could potentially be. In halo1 there was the pistol. A great weapon no doubt, but it was just too good. And between the range and the ability to kill people in three hits, it imblanced the weapon sets drastically making it a must have weapon to carry especially when playing against people with a very high level of skill.

Now that i got that out of the way consider this. If people aren't allowed to consider something dissapointing because of something completely wrecking the balance of the game what use is this forum at all? So we can sit here talking about the same new features over and over again, fantasizing about how it's going to be so fun to play, and occassionally popping in the ultra lame phrase "OMG I NEED TO CHANGE MY PANTS!!%@$%." Well my pants are clean, and firmly pressed thank you, and i'd like to do something a little more constructive with my time here.

Let me put it this way. Many people say the good outweighs the bad, or the game isn't even finished, or trust that bungie will bring us the best game of 2004. And to me that sounds very ignorant. From what i hear it's not an easy task designing and making a game, let alone a truely great one. There are so many variables to take into consideration, possible glitches, all while working withing the confines of the limited power of a console. It's an arduous task to say the least. But why do you think bungie has testing outside of their own company, allowing certain microsoft employees to test the game via online for a limited time? It's because they know they can't do everything on their own.

By posting in this forum i contribute my 2cents, and to try to silence people because of your blind hope that bungie has everything imaginable under control is simpley not fair to those people, and to the halo franchise. So this is what i say.

Complain about the game, everything that you see that you dont like, and discuss how it could be done better in a constuctive way. Since there is no definate way for us to get constant up to date feedback about the game from a bungie employee, you got to take it on yourself to view any possible flaws with the current game and how it might make the game less appealing, or less of a great experience than it could be. Because if you just put all trust into bungie about everything that has to do with halo and no one ever said they were dissapointed with the fact that this or that feature isn't the way it should be. How will you ever know if they had even considered it any other way? How do you know that they didn't specifically chose for it to be that way, and that's the exact way you're gonna see it when it ships this comming novemeber? fact of the matter is you can't.

  • 05.13.2004 1:50 PM PDT
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i find it so funny when i see those posts when halo 2 bashers refer to the 19 seconds of footage. its like "oh halo 2 sucks did you see those 19 sec. of footage" but thats exactaly it. its only 19 seconds of (awesome) footage. theese halo 2 bashers can suck my left nut (not the right one. lets not go there)

  • 05.13.2004 1:50 PM PDT
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Maybe all the -blam!-ing is why bungie only releases thing once in a blue moon.

  • 05.13.2004 1:54 PM PDT

I havn't seen anyone outright "bash" Halo 2 in any of the recent posts (ok, maybe one). But, someone disagreeing with one of the aspects of Halo 2 multiplayer is not bashing. Like me, for instance. I don't think that the Vehicle tracking is a good idea. I'll have to try it myself and see what it's like before I can know if it is good or not. I don't like Vehicle Tracking right now, but that doesn't mean I don't like Halo.

Simple, no?

  • 05.13.2004 1:55 PM PDT
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i agree 10000000%.......thats quack tastic

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Posted by: Banshee Barron
I havn't seen anyone outright "bash" Halo 2 in any of the recent posts (ok, maybe one). But, someone disagreeing with one of the aspects of Halo 2 multiplayer is not bashing. Like me, for instance. I don't think that the Vehicle tracking is a good idea. I'll have to try it myself and see what it's like before I can know if it is good or not. I don't like Vehicle Tracking right now, but that doesn't mean I don't like Halo.

Simple, no?


I guessed you must have missed the thread titled "I'm getting dissappointed" or perhaps "Boarding sucks...". Look, the overall point remains. People are questioning Halo 2 and they have not played it. Its fine to say you have concerns about the vehicle tracking aspect, but you have kept all of the reasons that you have concerns to yourself. There have been multiple people who have complained and sided with the IGN preview and are simply doubting Halo 2. And sorry, correct me if I am wrong, but making a thread called "Vehicle Boarding Sucks" seems like bashing to me.

  • 05.13.2004 2:02 PM PDT
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Posted by: Banshee Barron
I havn't seen anyone outright "bash" Halo 2 in any of the recent posts (ok, maybe one). But, someone disagreeing with one of the aspects of Halo 2 multiplayer is not bashing. Like me, for instance. I don't think that the Vehicle tracking...but that doesn't mean I don't like Halo...


personaly i dont care what aspects you like/dont like (no offense) what i do care about is phlem faces who will not be mentioned here (you can find them on your own, they grow like weeds) outright bashing halo 2. yes i have seen them. about 6 of them. look around

  • 05.13.2004 2:07 PM PDT

I saw those threads, that's why I said,

havn't seen anyone outright "bash" Halo 2 in any of the recent posts (ok, maybe one).

And I agree with you, those threads need to be deleted. They're outright bashing. I'd be nicer to those threads if they left the word "suck" out- and just have said, "I don't like vehicle boarding".

[Edited on 5/13/2004 2:10:07 PM]

  • 05.13.2004 2:08 PM PDT
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But you put it much more civily then many other posters who say that "Rocket tracking is going to suck." "Rocket tracking is going to make the game to noob friendly" or "Vehicle jacking is going to make vehicles useless." Those are all ignorant things to say because we dont have any actual evidence of any of these things.
Like, how hard will a rocket be to dodge, and how hard will it be to get a lock? In the vid, the warthog was driving in a straight line. not hard to follow at all.
And Vehicle jacking. We have no idea how hard that is going to be.

People voicing a dislike for something in a civil mannor I like. People being ignorant, I cant stand.

  • 05.13.2004 2:10 PM PDT
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Well if you think about it. If what IGN says is true, and it is the way it is. If you strategically get a guy to slow down thru a divesionary tactic, and hijack his vehicle dont you think that you should be able to drive away with it? If it's possible for the person who just got hijacked to re-hijack the vehicle, and then you can rehijack the vehicle again in an endless loop... There because relatively no point to even having it the feature in the game. Because eventually someone from your team or someone from their team will just come out and kill you Or simpley blow the war hog up.

So maybe the when someone says vehicle boarding sucks, they're saying they dont like that feature of the game because there's no point to it, based on what he's read and learned about the game. Just because someone doesn't like one feature in the game, doesn't mean they're saying "Because Behicle boarding sucks, Halo2 will suck!"

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  • 05.13.2004 2:11 PM PDT
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yes it does. that may seem blunt but when people say, vehicle tracking sucks and it will ruin halo 2 that means that they think that vehical tracking sucks and it will ruin halo 2. you cant deny it. its impossible for the statement to be false

  • 05.13.2004 2:40 PM PDT

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