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Subject: In the Lab: Precision Automatic Weapon

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Posted by: Akamia179

Posted by: SouthPoIe

Posted by: Akamia179

Yet it makes perfect sense.

Iconic weapon = Most likely going to be a starter.


The plasma rifle is iconic.
We don't spawn with it.

The warthog is iconic.
It's not on every map.

DMR starts are better in every way.

The plasma rifle is not as iconic as the Magnum or the AR, though. And it's a Covy weapon. Why it's not in most Matchmaking games (even Invasion!) eludes me, though.

The Warthog is iconic, indeed, but it's not something that you spawn with, like a gun. Plus, not all maps are big enough to use vehicles in a practical manner.


I want to know why on Covenant themed maps, like Zealot, are the weapons on map not just Covenant weapons?

  • 10.08.2011 5:51 PM PDT

Posted by: CultMiester4000
I'm not really an Apple person (Bananas forever) but damn, that's kinda sad.

All your ideas are pretty neat, this is not an exception.

I'd like an automatic precision weapon like this, in fact I was mulling over the thread idea myself, you beat me to the punch :3

What niche(s) would it fill? I don't want another OP weapon.

  • 10.08.2011 5:52 PM PDT

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Posted by: Darkside Eric

Posted by: SouthPoIe

Posted by: Akamia179
I always wondered why the AR gets so much crap, even when it's an iconic weapon in the franchise...

But maybe if it gets a replacement, that will change. Somewhat.


Because having it as a starting weapon is retarded.


I think this weapon I am presenting could take the place as a starting weapon.

Can hold its own in CQC (but maybe [in the case of Magnum] get beaten by Magnum and power weapons), and could hold its own against on map DMRs but only at the edge of close-mid range, outside of that DMR trumps it.

What if, in-universe, it actually becomes some new model of Assault Rifle? Like, another part of the MA5 series? Or a different series entirely?

  • 10.08.2011 5:53 PM PDT
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Posted by: Akamia179

The plasma rifle is not as iconic as the Magnum or the AR, though. And it's a Covy weapon. Why it's not in most Matchmaking games (even Invasion!) eludes me, though.

The Warthog is iconic, indeed, but it's not something that you spawn with, like a gun. Plus, not all maps are big enough to use vehicles in a practical manner.


Oh sorry, I didn't realize that there was a list of what's iconic and what isn't.

It doesn't matter if it's iconic if it's bad for gameplay.
DMR starts are better in every way.

  • 10.08.2011 5:54 PM PDT

Posted by: CultMiester4000
I'm not really an Apple person (Bananas forever) but damn, that's kinda sad.


Posted by: Akamia179

What if, in-universe, it actually becomes some new model of Assault Rifle? Like, another part of the MA5 series? Or a different series entirely?


It could (Just possibly!) be an Assault Rifle that......... Doesn't suck!

Heresy!

  • 10.08.2011 5:55 PM PDT

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Posted by: Darkside Eric

Posted by: Akamia179

Posted by: SouthPoIe

Posted by: Akamia179

Yet it makes perfect sense.

Iconic weapon = Most likely going to be a starter.


The plasma rifle is iconic.
We don't spawn with it.

The warthog is iconic.
It's not on every map.

DMR starts are better in every way.

The plasma rifle is not as iconic as the Magnum or the AR, though. And it's a Covy weapon. Why it's not in most Matchmaking games (even Invasion!) eludes me, though.

The Warthog is iconic, indeed, but it's not something that you spawn with, like a gun. Plus, not all maps are big enough to use vehicles in a practical manner.


I want to know why on Covenant themed maps, like Zealot, are the weapons on map not just Covenant weapons?

That's a good point. I didn't think of that.

Maybe there were Marines or Army soldiers there...? I don't know what to make of it, myself.

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Posted by: Darkside Eric


I want to know why on Covenant themed maps, like Zealot, are the weapons on map not just Covenant weapons?


Because Bungie is retarded.
Plain and simple.

  • 10.08.2011 5:55 PM PDT

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Posted by: SouthPoIe

Posted by: Akamia179

The plasma rifle is not as iconic as the Magnum or the AR, though. And it's a Covy weapon. Why it's not in most Matchmaking games (even Invasion!) eludes me, though.

The Warthog is iconic, indeed, but it's not something that you spawn with, like a gun. Plus, not all maps are big enough to use vehicles in a practical manner.


Oh sorry, I didn't realize that there was a list of what's iconic and what isn't.

It doesn't matter if it's iconic if it's bad for gameplay.
DMR starts are better in every way.

Missed my point. But whatever.

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Posted by: Akamia179

Missed my point. But whatever.


Yeah...

  • 10.08.2011 5:57 PM PDT

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Posted by: ParagonRenegade

Posted by: Akamia179

What if, in-universe, it actually becomes some new model of Assault Rifle? Like, another part of the MA5 series? Or a different series entirely?


It could (Just possibly!) be an Assault Rifle that......... Doesn't suck!

Heresy!

Heh. I'd rather have a useful weapon sandbox, than a useless one.

  • 10.08.2011 5:58 PM PDT

Posted by: CultMiester4000
I'm not really an Apple person (Bananas forever) but damn, that's kinda sad.


Posted by: Akamia179
Heh. I'd rather have a useful weapon sandbox, than a useless one.


What I think of your statement

  • 10.08.2011 5:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: ParagonRenegade

Posted by: Akamia179
Heh. I'd rather have a useful weapon sandbox, than a useless one.


What I think of your statement

Thank you!

... Now what do I do with this coupon? xD

  • 10.08.2011 6:02 PM PDT

Flash Kicks beat Armor Lock.

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Posted by: ParagonRenegade
All your ideas are pretty neat, this is not an exception.

I'd like an automatic precision weapon like this, in fact I was mulling over the thread idea myself, you beat me to the punch :3

What niche(s) would it fill? I don't want another OP weapon.


I think it would fill current AR range with a little bit extra thanks to the 1.5x scope. You couldn't out class people 30+ meters away or so, but anything within that range you could fight with either precision or sheer will, but if you use sheer will you'll empty your clip rather quickly.

Within say 10 m, things would get harder because other weapons can kill in fewer shots. I might be able to take down your Shields close range with this gun, but you've already landed your 3-4sk Magnum by the time your Shields are gone, or your 1-2sk Shotgun blast.

If I want to beat you in CQC with this weapon my strafing should be on a higher end than yours, or my Equipment/Armor Ability usage.

  • 10.08.2011 6:02 PM PDT

Flash Kicks beat Armor Lock.

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Posted by: SouthPoIe

Posted by: Darkside Eric


I want to know why on Covenant themed maps, like Zealot, are the weapons on map not just Covenant weapons?


Because Bungie is retarded.
Plain and simple.


Bungie makes me sad...

  • 10.08.2011 6:03 PM PDT

Posted by: CultMiester4000
I'm not really an Apple person (Bananas forever) but damn, that's kinda sad.


Posted by: Darkside Eric


So, essentially, it's a slightly more useless precision weapon.

I LOVE IT

Spawn with these, DMR's/whatever on the map = EPIC WIN BALANCE

  • 10.08.2011 6:04 PM PDT

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Posted by: Darkside Eric

Posted by: SouthPoIe

Posted by: Darkside Eric


I want to know why on Covenant themed maps, like Zealot, are the weapons on map not just Covenant weapons?


Because Bungie is retarded.
Plain and simple.


Bungie makes me sad...

Now we're under new management. That might be a plus.

  • 10.08.2011 6:04 PM PDT

Flash Kicks beat Armor Lock.

TheLab.


Posted by: ParagonRenegade

Posted by: Darkside Eric


So, essentially, it's a slightly more useless precision weapon.

I LOVE IT

Spawn with these, DMR's/whatever on the map = EPIC WIN BALANCE


Also, this gun would do -blam!- to vehicles. Except maybe to Ghost and Mongoose. But only if you attack vulnerable parts.

  • 10.08.2011 6:08 PM PDT

Posted by: CultMiester4000
I'm not really an Apple person (Bananas forever) but damn, that's kinda sad.


Posted by: Darkside Eric
Except maybe to Ghost and Mongoose.


Goddamn no!

  • 10.08.2011 6:13 PM PDT
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Good concept. I would never want to see this replace the DMR though. I would however LOVE to see it replace the AR.

  • 10.08.2011 6:17 PM PDT

Flash Kicks beat Armor Lock.

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Posted by: Darkside Eric
Except maybe to Ghost and Mongoose.


Goddamn no!


Only vulnerable parts.

With this gun, shoot the Ghost in the purple areas? It laughs at you. Shoot at the engine, it cries and takes damage. But no 'splody unless you put like... a couple clips into it.

  • 10.08.2011 6:18 PM PDT

Flash Kicks beat Armor Lock.

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Posted by: DerpRoids
Good concept. I would never want to see this replace the DMR though. I would however LOVE to see it replace the AR.


Would never replace the DMR/BR because then there's nothing for mid-long range in the normal sandbox.

  • 10.08.2011 6:19 PM PDT

Posted by: CultMiester4000
I'm not really an Apple person (Bananas forever) but damn, that's kinda sad.


Posted by: Darkside Eric
Only vulnerable parts.

With this gun, shoot the Ghost in the purple areas? It laughs at you. Shoot at the engine, it cries and takes damage. But no 'splody unless you put like... a couple clips into it.


Like Halo 3 then? If it was like that, then maybe.

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Posted by: Darkside Eric

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Good concept. I would never want to see this replace the DMR though. I would however LOVE to see it replace the AR.


Would never replace the DMR/BR because then there's nothing for mid-long range in the normal sandbox.


I could definitely work with this. It would be infinitely better spawning with this in the place of AR starts.

Also, maybe if the recoil was taken off it would better be able to combat the pistol in close-quarters, and in the place of recoil add bullet spread (Only takes effect at mid-range/long-range) similar to the BR.

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Posted by: ParagonRenegade
Like Halo 3 then? If it was like that, then maybe.

The Ghost had a weak point in that circular generator starting H2, but you could just shoot it anywhere and cause damage.

The thing about H3' was that vehicle health regened when your shields recharged, allowing you to get a near full vehicle nearly on command.

Reach has expanded that concept.

[Edited on 10.08.2011 6:23 PM PDT]

  • 10.08.2011 6:22 PM PDT

Flash Kicks beat Armor Lock.

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Posted by: ParagonRenegade

Posted by: Darkside Eric
Only vulnerable parts.

With this gun, shoot the Ghost in the purple areas? It laughs at you. Shoot at the engine, it cries and takes damage. But no 'splody unless you put like... a couple clips into it.


Like Halo 3 then? If it was like that, then maybe.


Yeah.

The reason I include this is because it only has a 1.5x scope. So to hit the vehicle and do damage to it you have to be in fairly dangerous range of it.

  • 10.08.2011 6:24 PM PDT