Posted by: grey101
Posted by: Ruby of the Blue
Posted by: grey101
Posted by: Sigma617
I'm still a little disgusted with the fact that Regret's expeditionary fleet made landfall in the first place.
Nothing should have been able to survive that volume of firepower. Nothing.[/quote]
THIS THIS THIS THIS
You'd think that the other platforms would fire on Regret's Carrier, seeing that Athens and Malta were too dead to do it.
OR why the ABUNDANCES of ships didn't fire en masse on the Carrier (though they may have been busy fighting the Cruisers, but still, thirteen Cruisers, two Carriers, versus God knows how many UNSC ships. I think there's more than enough UNSC to go around).
And why didn't Cairo take shots at the Assault Carrier?
Also,
"I take it back! Navy got its butt kicked!"
Is, or at least should be a pure lie. The first reason being clear. The second reason being:
"And we most definitely regret the Corps just blew up our raggedy-ass fleet!"
...which is a DIRECT contradiction. MAKE UP YOUR MIND BUNGIE.
Halo:CE:
Johnson's speech -> numerous personnel being slaughtered on the Pillar of Autumn [/quote]
But wouldn't the UNSC have done well on repelling the Covenant from the bridge, considering they're more tactically intelligent? Especially since they were suiting up and prepping for battle before the Covenant even got to the ship.
I always thought it was retarded how you'd always find dead Marines everywhere in every level with them, but no dead Covenant. Come ON, Bungie, the UNSC isn't made up of two year old's.
/ragefest[/quote]
um Half of the platforms where offline; The Malta and Athens were the only ODPs (other than yours) that was in the Area to take out that ship. The other ones had there on issues to deal with.
Over two hundred ships and what, one-hundred and forty-eight platforms (on one side of the planet) isn't enough to prioritize? ._.
The ships could have handled the thirteen Cruisers while the platforms all joined their fire on the two Carriers.
It's a bit absurd to claim that a MAC gun's range is limited to the area of its cluster, considering all of the MAC platforms that represent individual places on Earth aren't all that spread out.
when did i say Over 200 ships? I was being generous with 200 because the current official number is "over 100". And didn't i just say majority of the ODPs were offline?
Again you fail to understand the circumstance of a surprise attack. The UNSC did not know that regrets ship was going to appear at earth and they weren't ready for it hence the ODPs not being online for another 2 weeks. Not only that but the human fleet was scattered and the ships there were at earth probably got caught in rotation (just like reach).
So when you are completely off guard and a dozen ships make a B line for your planet you don't have much to do. Also majority of the human ships were frigates which would take dozens to destroy a CCS class ship and dozens more trying to take out the ship.
So, then Johnson's motivational speech at the start meant nothing?
"When I shipped out for basic, the orbital defense grid was all theories and politics. Now look. That Cairo is just ONE of THREE-HUNDRED geo-synchronized platforms."
Johnson is saying with confidence that when he first left, Earth wasn't very well fortified, but now, it was.
He would not be saying this if half of them were offline.
And by this time, they were already fully, and dreadfully expecting the Covenant to arrive at any moment, indicated by Lord Hood's "I apologize, but we're going to have to make this quick." in response to Cortana's "Another whisper, sir, near Io, we have probes en route."
So that means the UNSC was fully anticipating the Covenant's appearance, while Johnson is talking about how the MAC guns are all up, and Earth is ready for battle.
Why would Johnson be bragging about their strong defensive formation, knowing that the Covenant was fast approaching, being that only one-hundred and fifty of them were operational?
This may be another instance of the games contradicting the books if First Strike is where you're deriving your information from.
Last time i checked johnson just got back to Earth and ground soldiers don't know every little detail about what is going on. Example being that the everyday servicemen doesn't know that the attack on reach was a planned failure by ONI, does johnson know that? because he was at Reach.
That is not how character dialogue and inference works at all. The purpose of Johnson's speech was to emphasize the fact that the orbital defense grid was fully functional and prepped for battle.
This is only a contradiction between the games and the books, and nothing more.
To say that Johnson is absolutely wrong about what he's talking about because of the pathetic and weak example you gave is just not believable in the slightest, especially since nothing in the games even hints about half of the platforms being offline, while Johnson says that their defensive formation is fully functional-- "The orbital defense grid was all theories and politics. NOW LOOK: THAT CAIRO IS JUST ONE OF THREE-HUNDRED GEOSYNCHRONIZED PLATFORMS.".
Why would Johnson not be aware of something so blaring and important as half of the stations being offline? There's no reason.
This gives the strong implication that Bungie and the author of GoO both had completely different ideas about where to take the situation of the plot.
[Edited on 10.10.2011 3:19 PM PDT]