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1) Rounders
2) Locking 26 page threads that everyone and their mother was civilly participating in without so much as a "Hi, Guys!"

No, seriously, what gives? That thread was either an egregious violation of one of the stronger rules b.net has, in which case it was right to be locked sans comment, and we can all expect swift and brutal bans to be winging their way to our inboxes shortly (not to mention tom + recon having to resign on principle if nothing else), or someone's being a bit silly and locking without a second thought.

Is explaining why you've locked a thread, especially one as civil, constructive, active and large as that one, really so bad? It's nothing but common courtesy, really.

[Edited on 10.09.2011 8:45 PM PDT]

  • 10.09.2011 8:02 PM PDT
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Posted by: Jay120171
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1) WTF is cricket?

2) Wasn't me.

  • 10.09.2011 8:06 PM PDT
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Posted by: bobcast
1) WTF is cricket?

2) Wasn't me.


1) British baseball

2) (OP) They need not explain themselves.

  • 10.09.2011 8:08 PM PDT

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Posted by: bobcast
1) WTF is cricket?

2) Wasn't me.


bobcast, i am dissapoint... Cricket

Posted by: CmdrScott1701
1) British baseball


NO! It was created in and still is one of the main sports of Australia

[Edited on 10.09.2011 8:12 PM PDT]

  • 10.09.2011 8:09 PM PDT
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Posted by: CmdrScott1701
2) (OP) They need not explain themselves.
They need not moderate at all, but we'd all rather they do it because it's quite nice that they do, no? Likewise, when such an absurdly active, constructive, civil etc. thread as that is locked, a thread that is being bumped every 30s or so anyway, it's quite nice to know exactly why, after 26 pages of being tolerated, the thread has crossed the line.

  • 10.09.2011 8:09 PM PDT

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Things that aren't Shuffleboard:

1) Curling

2) You being confused as to why a discussion that, while civil, still got political (with your post even specifically referencing the executive branch of the US Government). This is, regrettably, against the rules. And Recon and Tom T shouldn't resign. There was that VII Toast thread about how all the troops don't protect our freedom and are useless (I'm paraphrasing, of course) and Yoozel posted in that like 3 times.

People aren't usually banned for participating passively in political threads, but rather for creating (usually more than one) of them or derailing a normal thread directly into political discussion (I.E. thread about Profanity filter -> Conservative V.S. Liberalism).

  • 10.09.2011 8:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: Jay120171
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Posted by: elmicker
Posted by: CmdrScott1701
2) (OP) They need not explain themselves.
They need not moderate at all, but we'd all rather they do it because it's quite nice that they do, no? Likewise, when such an absurdly active, constructive, civil etc. thread as that is locked, a thread that is being bumped every 30s or so anyway, it's quite nice to know exactly why, after 26 pages of being tolerated, the thread has crossed the line.


I think we need to relax. I'm looking into it.

I suspect it was an accident. Someone was most likely working the queue and there was a misclick. This happens from time to time.

  • 10.09.2011 8:12 PM PDT
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Posted by: CrazzySnipe55
2) You being confused as to why a discussion that, while civil, still got political
If that counts as political, then it had been political for twenty six pages. The vast majority of the thread was actually, as Recon amongst others said, about abstract social science; philosophy and economics mostly.

Actual politics was, at worst, skirted. The point you're referencing, for example, was discussing the morality of delegation of powers. In contrast to the executive/legislature example being discussed I had also brought up the relationship between an individual and their legal representation, which is hardly political.

Now, I am assuming that rule is why the thread was locked, and if someone felt that way then fair enough, but it'd be nice to know after expending all that effort steering the thread away from The Line, exactly why and when it crossed The Line, so that when the topic inevitably crops up again in the future, we don't cross The Line.

[Edited on 10.09.2011 8:47 PM PDT]

  • 10.09.2011 8:13 PM PDT

"We live in a special time; the only time where we can observationally verify that we live in a very special time" - Lawrence Krauss.

I was a finalist :P

Common courtesy is not compulsory, even if it may seem the right thing to do.

  • 10.09.2011 8:14 PM PDT

ATTENTION MODERATORS. My latest ban (14-day ban from Qbix89) is not legitimate, take a look for yourself. Please review this before considering me a "repeat offender". Thank you.

Don't lock a Mythic member's thread. Ever.

I'm pretty sure Tom T locked it, and it looks as if it may have violated the rule for political discussion. That's the only conclusion I could come up with at least...

...or maybe you're right, and someone just decided to lock without thinking it completely through.

  • 10.09.2011 8:14 PM PDT
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Posted by: elmicker
Posted by: CmdrScott1701
2) (OP) They need not explain themselves.
They need not moderate at all, but we'd all rather they do it because it's quite nice that they do, no?


Nice, perhaps, but not necessary. I have yet to meet a police officer who explains his every action to his inferiors.

Posted by: elmicker
Likewise, when such an absurdly active, constructive, civil etc. thread as that is locked, a thread that is being bumped every 30s or so anyway, it's quite nice to know exactly why, after 26 pages of being tolerated, the thread has crossed the line.


This is a very good point, and an explanation should be the courteous gesture of a law enforcer, however unfortunate as it may sound, users must conform to the decisions of their cadre. Democracy in such a case breads vices.

  • 10.09.2011 8:16 PM PDT

When I grow up I want to be bitter and spiteful.

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-legato on remedial chaos theory

I suspect that the grounds for locking are none other than the thread being civil and constructive. Had it been vicious and petty, I'm sure conversation would be continuing now.

But, aside from these reasons, I believe elmicker is right. The thread should be unlocked and all participating posters permabanned.

[Edited on 10.09.2011 8:18 PM PDT]

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Posted by: Duck duck DEATH
I suspect that the grounds for locking are none other than the thread being civil and constructive. Had it been vicious and petty, I'm sure conversation would be continuing now.

But, aside from these reasons, I believe elmicker is right. The thread should be unlocked and all participating posters permabanned.

  • 10.09.2011 8:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: elmicker
Posted by: CrazzySnipe55
2) You being confused as to why a discussion that, while civil, still got political
If that counts as political had been political for twenty six pages. The vast majority of the thread was actually, as Recon amongst others, said, about abstract social science; philosophy and economics mostly. Actual politics was, at worst, skirted.

Now, I am assuming that's why the thread was locked, and if someone felt that way then fair enough, but it'd be nice to know after expending all that effort steering the thread away from The Line, exactly why and when it crossed The Line, so that when the topic inevitably crops up again in the future, we don't cross The Line.


It's very possible a mod who hadn't been on all day or in the past two or however long that thread's been active, saw the most recent post, saw political discussion, said to themselves "Wth? Why isn't this locked yet? Guess no one's on." *lock*

I doubt it was maliciously or with any intent or circumstance other than the one listed above or the one listed by Dr. Ninja Ph.D.

  • 10.09.2011 8:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: CmdrScott1701
I have yet to meet a police officer who explains his every action to his inferiors.
This is a pretty poor example, as it always is and will be. In this particular case, police oficers aren't "superior" and, in fact, all their decisions are accountable to those over whom they weild authority, whether through independent bodies, FOI acts or another mechanism. Accountability is a fundamental building block of liberal society.

But that's a total aside. I just hate bad examples.


Posted by: CrazzySnipe55
I doubt it was maliciously or with any intent or circumstance other than the one listed above or the one listed by Dr. Ninja Ph.D.
Wouldn't life be much easier without any doubt ;)

[Edited on 10.09.2011 8:22 PM PDT]

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I've been seeing the thread all day. I didn't lock it.

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Then there are the people who poop in the mash potatoes. Those people get launched out on their asses.

Not it!

  • 10.09.2011 8:26 PM PDT

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Posted by: elmickerOh, and since you were wondering about this mystical "The Line": Here it is.

  • 10.09.2011 8:27 PM PDT

"We live in a special time; the only time where we can observationally verify that we live in a very special time" - Lawrence Krauss.

I was a finalist :P

The way the ninja's see the rules and how they enforce it is unique to every one of them. What may seem lockable to some, may not seem to others (especially if the post is ambiguous). I guess one of the Ninja's viewed it as rule breaking and assumed that they were the first one to notice it.

  • 10.09.2011 8:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: borrowedchief
Not it!

Posted by: Duardo
I've been seeing the thread all day. I didn't lock it.

Posted by: bobcast
1) WTF is cricket?

2) Wasn't me.


I think from all the above we can only conclude that it was either Yoozel or Foman. Yup. Those are our culprits. Cuffem boys!

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The kiss asses show their true colors in threads like these. Should we take the time to count them?

Honestly, I don't see why it is locked either...

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Posted by: elmicker
Posted by: CmdrScott1701
I have yet to meet a police officer who explains his every action to his inferiors.
This is a pretty poor example, as it always is and will be. In this particular case, police oficers aren't "superior" and, in fact, all their decisions are accountable to those over whom they weild authority, whether through independent bodies, FOI acts or another mechanism. Accountability is a fundamental building block of liberal society.


Not my point, nor do I see them personally as being superior to other human beings. What I meant, and sorry if my words bore hue, was that they are in a position of authority and don't debate their decisions with the subject.

Disregard accountability. Disregard equality. Disregard the quality of the example.

The analogy translates to person (A) not questioning person (B), for the body of society, of course.

  • 10.09.2011 8:30 PM PDT

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Posted by: drummer0702
The kiss asses show their true colors in threads like these. Should we take the time to count them?

Honestly, I don't see why it is locked either...
So I'm a kiss ass because I think that there was definitely warrant behind the locking of the thread, though, personally, if in the same situation as the mod who did it, I wouldn't? Aight brah.

  • 10.09.2011 8:31 PM PDT

When I grow up I want to be bitter and spiteful.

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I know now might not be the best time to petition for less ambiguity in the rules, however...

  • 10.09.2011 8:32 PM PDT
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Posted by: Duck duck DEATH
I know now might not be the best time to petition for less ambiguity in the rules, however...
Don't worry, it's an even less appropriate time to explain why I don't like cricket, but, I'll still do it anyway.

[Edited on 10.09.2011 8:36 PM PDT]

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