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Subject: Precursor Buildings

It still stumbles across my thoughts every once in a while why precursor buildings are indestructible except for a firing of a properly tuned Halo.

Any theories?
Maybe a similar reason as to why they live such long lives? Or are they immortal?

  • 10.10.2011 9:13 PM PDT

I thought the precursors were basically like "the gods" and that is all we know about them...

  • 10.10.2011 10:08 PM PDT

I don't have Cryptum on hand to check this out myself, but I believe it was mentioned that Precursor building have some biological element, which I'm guessing the Halos' pulse could destroy. Could be wrong though.

[Edited on 10.10.2011 11:42 PM PDT]

  • 10.10.2011 11:42 PM PDT

Even the Forerunners didn't know why; Didact's understanding of Halo was basically no more then a giant nerve weapon. But come Faber's time they could destroy Precursor objects, something all Forerunners knew to be impossible. Clearly, mundane descriptions of supermassive nutrinoes regardless, Halo was a unique weapon, but how?

A theory I've given some thought is that the Precursor's structures are the physical manifestation of the universe and the universal consciousness that Born said was the basis for all Precursor science: "The universe lives, but not as we do."

An allegory for the soul and divine power, perhaps, untouchable and inconceivable to anything in the physical world. Other then the massive death toll the Rings bring upon the galaxy, they are still no more impressive weapons--in function--then a large fleet of Forerunner ships. They still do catalysmic damage to anything and everything in their path: planets, stars and everything else. Yet they cannot destroy Precursor objects. What's the difference?

Making me believe the Halos destroy even whatever may be called the "soul," purging the victim from even an, dare I say it, afterlife? Perhaps whatever or where ever this "Great Journey" takes you?

  • 10.11.2011 4:25 AM PDT

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Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Even the Forerunners didn't know why; Didact's understanding of Halo was basically no more then a giant nerve weapon. But come Faber's time they could destroy Precursor objects, something all Forerunners knew to be impossible. Clearly, mundane descriptions of supermassive nutrinoes regardless, Halo was a unique weapon, but how?


They take Caboose, give him Sheila, and tell him that the Universe is on his team and that he should help it.

  • 10.11.2011 7:45 AM PDT

Well slap my balls and call me Santa, I've got lizard tits!

i remember reading something like. Precursor technology is based on a certain concept, something to do with brains I tihnk and how they work.
Halo Rings attack I think Higher thinking capabilities (sentient beings).

See the connection?

  • 10.11.2011 11:17 AM PDT

I actually love all of your theories!

I am totally down for structures of the soul of creatures we can not comprehend who have watched us since we were amoebas

That also makes sense with why they would be able to be destroyed by the halos if the halos were a weapon that targeted a certain frequency of soul and therefore sentient creatures

So if say you wanted to purge the galaxy of sentient life or destroy the ark, you would just have to fire at multiple if not all frequencies concerning said things you want gone and -pushing giant red button here-

  • 10.11.2011 3:42 PM PDT

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The only information at all given is by the Halo Encyclopedia, which claims that
When activated, the Halo rings would wipe out all sentient life within three radii of the Milky Way's Galactic center, by sending out radiation, targeting certain cells in the nervous system, which includes, but is not limited to, neurons, by harmonizing all neurological frequencies.

However, this has a severe flaw in it. Radiation would take millions upon millions of years to spread far enough.

Even Gamma Rays, traveling at the Speed of Light, would take 100,000 years to cover the Milky Way galaxy.

The forerunners clearly used a delivery system that is faster than the speed of light- perhaps millions of minature Slip-Space jumps that deliver Gamma Rays to tiny sections of the galaxy?

  • 10.11.2011 3:58 PM PDT
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Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
The only information at all given is by the Halo Encyclopedia, which claims that
When activated, the Halo rings would wipe out all sentient life within three radii of the Milky Way's Galactic center, by sending out radiation, targeting certain cells in the nervous system, which includes, but is not limited to, neurons, by harmonizing all neurological frequencies.

However, this has a severe flaw in it. Radiation would take millions upon millions of years to spread far enough.

Even Gamma Rays, traveling at the Speed of Light, would take 100,000 years to cover the Milky Way galaxy.

The forerunners clearly used a delivery system that is faster than the speed of light- perhaps millions of minature Slip-Space jumps that deliver Gamma Rays to tiny sections of the galaxy?

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. The Forerunners are sufficiently advanced. They probably designed a workaround, not to mention the fact that the placement of the Halos cuts the 100,000 year time limit to a mere 25,000 (assuming they used gamma rays).

  • 10.11.2011 4:02 PM PDT

The only information at all given is by the Halo Encyclopedia, which claims that
When activated, the Halo rings would wipe out all sentient life within three radii of the Milky Way's Galactic center, by sending out radiation, targeting certain cells in the nervous system, which includes, but is not limited to, neurons, by harmonizing all neurological frequencies.

However, this has a severe flaw in it. Radiation would take millions upon millions of years to spread far enough.

Even Gamma Rays, traveling at the Speed of Light, would take 100,000 years to cover the Milky Way galaxy.

The forerunners clearly used a delivery system that is faster than the speed of light- perhaps millions of minature Slip-Space jumps that deliver Gamma Rays to tiny sections of the galaxy?


Well now that is quite interesting. And don't mind me but also quite beautiful. A galaxy's last breath, before it is reborn.

Though the way the ring fires it seems to be quite more of a atomic frequency sort of thing. Could it be possible that whatever it fires, it vibrates whatever makes up the soul and "disintegration" or if you wanna go real not philosophical specific DNA "disintegration" that classifies sentient as... so called sentient

[Edited on 10.11.2011 4:10 PM PDT]

  • 10.11.2011 4:08 PM PDT

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. The Forerunners are sufficiently advanced. They probably designed a workaround, not to mention the fact that the placement of the Halos cuts the 100,000 year time limit to a mere 25,000 (assuming they used gamma rays).

I love that you used that quote cause I understand the universe like that. ALSO with that time distillation kind of logic, it certainly makes sense. It also makes sense why there are only 7 now compared to the 12 there originally if I remember right. Enough to control without fear of another catastrophe like the one in cryptum. But enough to cover 99.99999% of the galaxy

  • 10.11.2011 4:13 PM PDT

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Posted by: ExoditeDRider
The only information at all given is by the Halo Encyclopedia, which claims that
When activated, the Halo rings would wipe out all sentient life within three radii of the Milky Way's Galactic center, by sending out radiation, targeting certain cells in the nervous system, which includes, but is not limited to, neurons, by harmonizing all neurological frequencies.

However, this has a severe flaw in it. Radiation would take millions upon millions of years to spread far enough.

Even Gamma Rays, traveling at the Speed of Light, would take 100,000 years to cover the Milky Way galaxy.

The forerunners clearly used a delivery system that is faster than the speed of light- perhaps millions of minature Slip-Space jumps that deliver Gamma Rays to tiny sections of the galaxy?


Well now that is quite interesting. And don't mind me but also quite beautiful. A galaxy's last breath, before it is reborn.

Though the way the ring fires it seems to be quite more of a atomic frequency sort of thing. Could it be possible that whatever it fires, it vibrates whatever makes up the soul and "disintegration" or if you wanna go real not philosophical specific DNA "disintegration" that classifies sentient as... so called sentient


Gamma Rays blast apart DNA. Get it to a high enough frequency, and it would kill you in one blast. That would hypothetically work.

However, the rings have to cover almost 39 million cubic Light Years of space (Milky Way galaxy). Thats a LOT of Gamma Rays. The only plausible way to create that much energy would probably be through some extreme Nuclear Fission of converting matter to energy.

... Unless they specifically targeted certain planets for sterilization and left out the empty space. After all, they did catalog almost every species in the galaxy and would know where to target. That sounds more feasible to me.
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[Edited on 10.11.2011 4:41 PM PDT]

  • 10.11.2011 4:27 PM PDT

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Actually, scratch the Gamma Rays; That many Gamma Rays impacting a planet would probably boil away its atmosphere and possibly blow the planet apart. So it wouldn't be suited for life any longer.

If they were Gamma Rays, it would have to be very small and very precise doses.

[Edited on 10.11.2011 4:45 PM PDT]

  • 10.11.2011 4:45 PM PDT

it could be like something from religion. reason being the christian god is three things in and out of itself. the same for the hindu gods. so it is likely that it could be like these...something we may never understand

  • 10.11.2011 4:49 PM PDT

Something we may never understand... now I like that.

The forum might not so much.

If it was gamma rays it would affect the Glow to much and therefore probably harm whatever beings may live there. I mean just moving makes an effect in the glow, think about if we blasted an entire galaxy with radiation.

ALSO gamma rays cause more damage then just annihilating DNA. They poison environments and like it was said, would boil planets to pieces so I doubt that's what the halo's fire.

  • 10.11.2011 5:30 PM PDT