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Subject: Forerunners

I'll cut to the chase. I don't know a whole lot about the Halo story. Google didn't help at all. It's why I have these questions. Sorry for posting the forum again but it got locked the first time because I put it in the Flood forum and apparently that's like a sin over there.

My Questions:
1) If the Forerunners created the Halos to wipe out all life so the Flood wouldn't have a source of food how do the humans exist?

2) Also, If the rings were activated why did we come across them? They'd have been destroyed.

3) Lastly, If the rings wipe out all life, how did the Flood survive?

3.5) I lied, this is my last question, Why/How were the Flood locked up on Halo in Halo: CE?

Like I said I don't know much about the Halo plot so this could all be one giant mistake.

  • 10.11.2011 3:39 PM PDT

We have all been there my friend

1) The forerunners, living by their set of rules called the mantle, required them to do no harm to any life in the universe.
They re-seeded the galaxy with non sentient versions of the species they wiped out with the halos by way of auto-piloted ships and cloning!

2)We actually came across them by pure chance. Actually the blast the halos fired only killed sentient life, so structures or anything else would have been kept alive. Including the halos. This was on purpose if ever the flood came back from where ever it came from. Canon states that the precursors (we'll leave them for another day) created the flood but when it became dangerous, exiled it from the galaxy so now massive amounts of flood exist outside of our galaxy... somewhere.

3)They do exist outside the galaxy, and the blast radius of every single halo firing may be large but could miss some of our galaxy... it's possible! maybe

3.5)I believe it was for study reasons to better combat the floor with weapons and such so that firing the halos would become unneccicary, but as you've read... didn't work so well




  • 10.11.2011 3:57 PM PDT

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Posted by: ExoditeDRider
We have all been there my friend

1) The forerunners, living by their set of rules called the mantle, required them to do no harm to any life in the universe.
They re-seeded the galaxy with non sentient versions of the species they wiped out with the halos by way of auto-piloted ships and cloning!

2)We actually came across them by pure chance. Actually the blast the halos fired only killed sentient life, so structures or anything else would have been kept alive. Including the halos. This was on purpose if ever the flood came back from where ever it came from. Canon states that the precursors (we'll leave them for another day) created the flood but when it became dangerous, exiled it from the galaxy so now massive amounts of flood exist outside of our galaxy... somewhere.

3)They do exist outside the galaxy, and the blast radius of every single halo firing may be large but could miss some of our galaxy... it's possible! maybe

3.5)I believe it was for study reasons to better combat the floor with weapons and such so that firing the halos would become unneccicary, but as you've read... didn't work so well





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  • 10.11.2011 4:01 PM PDT

Didact's Reprisal -
Now is the time of our unworlding
One final effort is all that remains
And I am not afraid
We shall fulfill our promise
We fight for the grace of the Mantle
And this time none of you will be left behind

1) The Librarian and other Forerunners collected samples of species across the galaxy and stored them in the Ark and on some of the Halos. If you don't know what the Ark is, the Halo wiki can also be helpful.

2) Eh, I don't know the "technical" terms, so I'm cautious about giving a specific answer. In any case, it attacks organisms, it isn't a giant explosion.

3) The samples of species collected by the Librarian were later used as test subjects by a different Forerunner to further examine the Flood. Perhaps some survived due to that. Far as I can think of, there's no 100% answer yet.

3.5) May relate to the previous answer. That, or the Sentinels weren't able to reach them on that specific part whereas they were able to individually destroy the Flood everywhere else on the construct. May also tie in to the slight crazy that is Guilty Spark.

  • 10.11.2011 4:03 PM PDT


[quote]Posted by: ExoditeDRider

That answer of yours helped a TON! Thanks!

  • 10.11.2011 4:07 PM PDT

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3.5) The forerunners knew that the Flood would eventually return. They kept a handful of flood alive in secure containment facilities for study. Most of these facilities were on the Halo rings. They figured that when the Flood eventually returns, they'll have 1000's of years of research and study to use against them.

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Posted by: ExoditeDRider
We have all been there my friend

1) The forerunners, living by their set of rules called the mantle, required them to do no harm to any life in the universe.


Do...no...harm...?

Dude, read Cryptum. They're built to bring harm.

  • 10.12.2011 5:42 AM PDT

Google didn't help at all.

May I recommend Halo Nation?

  • 10.12.2011 5:59 AM PDT

The flood are not exactly from this galaxy, so the forerunner kept flood samples for US (humanity) to study in the case they returned.

However, as you may know, the onset of the covenant screwed the entire thing up.

In a more normal galaxy, humanity would have discovered the halo rings and all the stuff they inherited from the forerunner gradually, and when they were READY, instead it was forced upon them by the threat of extinction, and the covenant themselves are responsible for releasing the flood from their containment on the rings. You can imagine that had we not been fighting a life or death struggle for our species survival, the flood would never have escaped their labs, and would instead have been studied by humanity, to eventually make a cure.

  • 10.12.2011 7:48 AM PDT

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Posted by: ExoditeDRider
We have all been there my friend

1) The forerunners, living by their set of rules called the mantle, required them to do no harm to any life in the universe.


Do...no...harm...?

Dude, read Cryptum. They're built to bring harm.

I recomend you read it agian.

  • 10.12.2011 7:51 AM PDT
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Instead of all those pointless same questions we had from the begining....I WOULD like to ask...:
What happend to the 5 installations of 0-32 medicant bias..
And if they got destroyed they shouldve been rebuilt by ark !?!

  • 10.12.2011 8:12 AM PDT

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Posted by: CastTape
1) If the Forerunners created the Halos to wipe out all life so the Flood wouldn't have a source of food how do the humans exist?


The Librarian and the other Lifeworkers catalogued living specimins and preserved them on the Ark, beyond the firing range of the Halos. Once Halo had fired and cleansed the galaxy, the Forerunners reseeded them.

2) Also, If the rings were activated why did we come across them? They'd have been destroyed.

Halo fires a burst of neutrinos that targets specific areas of the nervous system and brain, it's not like a nuke where everything blows up, Halo affects living beings with sufficient biomass to sustain the Flood super cell.

3) Lastly, If the rings wipe out all life, how did the Flood survive?

The Flood were contained on the Halo Rings for study, the Forerunners were searching for a way to replicate the cure that humanity destroyed and were probing them for weaknesses.

3.5) I lied, this is my last question, Why/How were the Flood locked up on Halo in Halo: CE?

Like I said, they're held in Containment Facilities on the Rings.

Posted by: FTW 1997
Instead of all those pointless same questions we had from the begining....I WOULD like to ask...:
What happend to the 5 installations of 0-32 medicant bias..
And if they got destroyed they shouldve been rebuilt by ark !?!


The plan (as in the plan) to destroy all life in the galaxy hadn't been sanctioned at the time. They had built the Halos as research stations firstly, designed to contain living specimins for indexing. Thus, it wouldn't have been prudent to rebuild the Ring at the time.

Secondly, it's likely they had no idea whether to rebuild it or not. The construction of the 12 Rings was initiated when the Builders took power and cast down the Warrior-Servants (the ones who proposed the Shield Worlds); you'll remember that Faber, the Master Builder, was removed from power by the Council for firing a Halo at Janjur Qom to quell the San'Shyuum revolt. That was the tipping point where the Builders lost power, so the new Council may have changed the rules.

Page 329 of Cryptum says:

"The Falco slowly rotated and a complicated silhouette moved across the spiral cloud. It took several long moments before I could make out slender shapes attached to that silhouette, like a wide rosette. Slowly it dawned on me that I was looking upon another array of installations: six rings, each rising from one of the petals of an enormous flower.

We know that 1 Ring survived, and here Born is telling us that there are 6 being constructed on the Ark. So it's evident that these are the Rings used in the final plan, it's a logical conclusion that (since we know little of what happened at the Capital after Born, Glory and the Councillor left) the other Rings were destroyed or went missing. Also, it says during that battle that only 7 were being recalled into slipspace where only 1 survived - so it's clear that only 7 either needed to be used or were planned to be used.

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  • 10.12.2011 8:19 AM PDT
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Posted by: ExoditeDRider
We have all been there my friend

1) The forerunners, living by their set of rules called the mantle, required them to do no harm to any life in the universe.


Do...no...harm...?

Dude, read Cryptum. They're built to bring harm.

I recomend you read it agian.


Devolving Humanity because of a couple of refugees 'invading' Forerunner worlds, then when they realize Humanity was right about the threat, they say "Oops. Hehe." and don't even bother correcting what they did.

And putting down a rebellion by firing a Halo...

  • 10.12.2011 4:46 PM PDT
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Only reason why we lost against the forerunners was because 99% of our military was fighting the flood

  • 10.12.2011 4:54 PM PDT

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1. The Forerunners kept several members of each specie alive on the Ark.

2. They release a neural pulse that kills all sentient life with a nervous system. They don't release an intra-galactic explosion.

3. The neural pulse can't kill Flood. Also, (this also answers 3.5) some Flood were kept on the Halos for future research.

  • 10.12.2011 4:54 PM PDT