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Subject: A few questions i have to ask...
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First of all:
WTF ?!?!? earth had 300 freaking MACS and a fleet of eighteen ships got thru ? IS THIS A JOKE ?
Reach had 20 only and destroyed a fleet of 300 ....seriously what in the world is that ?
Secondly:
Where did the other 5 0-32 medicant biases rings go ?
If they wouldve been destroyed they would be rebuild by ark so where are they ?
Thirdly:
Its hard for me to belive that The forerunners rose up against precursor
Precursors had their mantle and so did forerunners ...Precursers where stronger than forerunners.....in tech how did that happen ?

And a question to you:
Do you think the precursors survived ?
Do you think the forerunners survived ?

  • 10.12.2011 8:19 AM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Posted by: FTW 1997
First of all:
WTF ?!?!? earth had 300 freaking MACS and a fleet of eighteen ships got thru ? IS THIS A JOKE ?
Reach had 20 only and destroyed a fleet of 300 ....seriously what in the world is that ?


It seems that they deliberately let the Covenant through to attempt RED FLAG.

Secondly:
Where did the other 5 0-32 medicant biases rings go ?
If they wouldve been destroyed they would be rebuild by ark so where are they ?


The plan (as in the plan) to destroy all life in the galaxy hadn't been sanctioned at the time. They had built the Halos as research stations firstly, designed to contain living specimins for indexing. Thus, it wouldn't have been prudent to rebuild the Ring at the time.

Secondly, it's likely they had no idea whether to rebuild it or not. The construction of the 12 Rings was initiated when the Builders took power and cast down the Warrior-Servants (the ones who proposed the Shield Worlds); you'll remember that Faber, the Master Builder, was removed from power by the Council for firing a Halo at Janjur Qom to quell the San'Shyuum revolt. That was the tipping point where the Builders lost power, so the new Council may have changed the rules.

Page 329 of Cryptum says:

"The Falco slowly rotated and a complicated silhouette moved across the spiral cloud. It took several long moments before I could make out slender shapes attached to that silhouette, like a wide rosette. Slowly it dawned on me that I was looking upon another array of installations: six rings, each rising from one of the petals of an enormous flower.

We know that 1 Ring survived, and here Born is telling us that there are 6 being constructed on the Ark. So it's evident that these are the Rings used in the final plan, it's a logical conclusion that (since we know little of what happened at the Capital after Born, Glory and the Councillor left) the other Rings were destroyed or went missing. Also, it says during that battle that only 7 were being recalled into slipspace where only 1 survived - so it's clear that only 7 either needed to be used or were planned to be used.

Thirdly:
Its hard for me to belive that The forerunners rose up against precursor
Precursors had their mantle and so did forerunners ...Precursers where stronger than forerunners.....in tech how did that happen ?


We know nothing about the Forerunner-Precursor war, these are details that will be elaborated upon.

Do you think the precursors survived ?

We know that at least 1 survived (conjecture).

Do you think the forerunners survived ?

We know they survived.

  • 10.12.2011 8:27 AM PDT
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Well Then why make 12 stations on the first place ?
I thought they made 12 because at amount of 12 will only the universe be cleaned out...Thus i have a feeling that some of medicants bias installations survived...

And the thing is...The battle of capital was at the end of war.

However i do not find the flood effects terrefing in F v F war
The forerrunners lost twelve systems...(twelve stars ?max:X2)
I think the forerunners werent losing at all...most of the forerunners didnt even know that they where at the face of extinction.
Then why did they activate the halo's...
And did actually bornstellar (new didact) think that he can save librarian while she is on a world in quaranitne ?
Btw i just understood that Earth was in the part where flood war waged...

  • 10.12.2011 8:37 AM PDT

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Posted by: FTW 1997
Well Then why make 12 stations on the first place ?
I thought they made 12 because at amount of 12 will only the universe be cleaned out...Thus i have a feeling that some of medicants bias installations survived...


Well we know at least 1 survives because the Timeless One is on it with Chakas and Riser in Primordium.

And the thing is...The battle of capital was at the end of war.

It was towards the end of the war, we are not given any specific date.

However i do not find the flood effects terrefing in F v F war
The forerrunners lost twelve systems...(twelve stars ?max:X2)
I think the forerunners werent losing at all...most of the forerunners didnt even know that they where at the face of extinction.
Then why did they activate the halo's...
And did actually bornstellar (new didact) think that he can save librarian while she is on a world in quaranitne ?
Btw i just understood that Earth was in the part where flood war waged...


Every attempt the Forerunners made to destroy the Flood failed miserably, the Flood was constantly evolving and adapting to their tactics and they got cleverer and cleverer as they assimilated more Forerunners. Then the Flood started attacking core systems and they were taken over, so using the Halos was looking to be the only option that could work.

  • 10.12.2011 8:57 AM PDT
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Rev.6-8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.


Posted by: FTW 1997
Then why did they activate the halo's...


really dude...wow

  • 10.12.2011 8:59 AM PDT
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Ok why didnt the forerunners use the same tactic the AHE did ?
Ofcourse flood has adapted to the infection that destroyed it.
But i mean seriously there are thousands of infections or such dna changes that can stop flood...
For some reason i think the forerunners couldve won.
Meaning to say...they wasted a life of a whole galaxy just because they got tierd of loosing.

  • 10.12.2011 11:06 AM PDT

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Posted by: FTW 1997
Ok why didnt the forerunners use the same tactic the AHE did ?
Ofcourse flood has adapted to the infection that destroyed it.
But i mean seriously there are thousands of infections or such dna changes that can stop flood...
For some reason i think the forerunners couldve won.
Meaning to say...they wasted a life of a whole galaxy just because they got tierd of loosing.


I assume that AHE stands for Ancient Human Empire? Name 1 disease that could stop the Flood, I don't think you understand what the Flood is. It's a super cell that adapts to every and any threat presented to it, there was no way the Forerunners could have won, using the Halos was the only way to ensure that the Flood couldn't develop further by severing its food supply.

  • 10.12.2011 11:08 AM PDT
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Yes you are right...It is Ancient Human Empire...
However using the tactic they started in the end war...
Causing super novas to destroy systems...would be very efective...considering by the time of the "beggining of the end" the flood had only 12 systems....12 super novas....ofcourse there would be high casualties but thats nothing like halos effect...You could say that the flood might have escaped a system via ship and it would go to another system...Again i call sacrafise...not a Sun explosion but a planets death...i mean a single flood ship would not instantly infect the whole system...it would go planet by planet...once flood is found on a planet...it should be immidiatly destroyed...of course that is possible with only 2 new war sphinxs ? (i heard/read that one war sphinx (new one) could destroy half a planet)

  • 10.13.2011 5:23 AM PDT


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Posted by: FTW 1997
First of all:
WTF ?!?!? earth had 300 freaking MACS and a fleet of eighteen ships got thru ? IS THIS A JOKE ?
Reach had 20 only and destroyed a fleet of 300 ....seriously what in the world is that ?


It seems that they deliberately let the Covenant through to attempt RED FLAG.


Did they even know about Regret before they got to the outskirts of New Mombasa?

  • 10.13.2011 5:25 AM PDT

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Posted by: FTW 1997
First of all:
WTF ?!?!? earth had 300 freaking MACS and a fleet of eighteen ships got thru ? IS THIS A JOKE ?
Reach had 20 only and destroyed a fleet of 300 ....seriously what in the world is that ?


It seems that they deliberately let the Covenant through to attempt RED FLAG.


Did they even know about Regret before they got to the outskirts of New Mombasa?


I think that the idea was to capture the vessel and take it to High Charity, then they discovered that there was a Prophet aboard and decided to send the ODSTs down to capture him and secure the ship.

  • 10.13.2011 9:47 AM PDT