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Subject: Halo Marine Corps vs Modern Warfare Trilogy

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Posted by: GAMERXD001
UNSC Marine < US Marine (Weaker)

No as the UNSC Marine canon wise have the same training as a US Marine, what gives UNSC the edge is equipment with armour and other things included that aren't added due to gameplay problems and haven't added due to no one thinking about them.

Posted by: GAMERXD001
Vulcan Hog < Hummer

No as a warthog can take plasma damage and still drive a Vulcan Hog is more likely to die with one hit. Also the turrent on a Hog is more dangerous due to stronger rounds able to penetrate the Hummer and easier maneuverability which allows the gunner to be more prone to hit. If an ODST was there he would survive many shots due to their armour.

Posted by: GAMERXD001
Longsword > B7 Spirit or F117 Stealth (Better Weapons)

Not only that Longswords were not made for stealth but for blowing things up in the thick of a battle they have more armour design was based on old stealth bomber. What the UNSC have for stealth is still not known.

Posted by: GAMERXD001
M808B Scorpion < M1 Abrahms (Easier to kill)

Cheaper to make and more in number. Although due to one passenger and smaller space if you hit anything like the wheels but not the Main Gun and Passenger area you are screwed as everything is in that tiny space. The M1 will be pierced by the Scorpion and will lose equipment necessary to fire the gun. Which will make it useless.

Posted by: GAMERXD001
C-130 < AC-220 Vulture (Almost equal firepower, but the 130 has a speed advantage)

The AC-220 was to be a tank with huge weapons like missiles. These would likely have longer range and able to heat seak and hit their intended target.
Sad to say but the C-130 has to aim to its gun by flying by the vulture any shots could be dodged. The AC-220 has ability to turn and can take alot of hits. If the C-130 flies by it will damage the Vulture but will lose ability to shoot as the guns are only on one side.
Plus the Vulture can easily turn and aim at the aircraft that is flying towards it across the field and fire one missile taking it out even before the C-130 comes by and aims its guns.

Posted by: GAMERXD001
If you don't bring in spartans, odst's, or space related weaponry...It could be a draw.

Plus both sides have .50cal snipers, 8-gauge shottys, rockets, noob tubes, machine guns, mini-guns, strong pistols.

Plus MW has the US Army Rangers & US Navy Seals...which both could handle fighting UNSC Marines, and maybe even ODST's.

Saying that MW would loose would be an insult to the US military in a way cause your saying they would lose...america has backed down but never lost.

Just admit it, if you make it fair, it would end in a draw...MW has superior soldiers & vehicles, but UNSC has more troops.

No US Navy Seals sad to say have nothing on ODST who have armour to block even .50 cal plus the SAS have a better special forces that will pwn the Navy Seals sorry to say that. Price is from the SAS.
Also the vehicle and the upgrades will give the UNSC a superior ability on the battlefield.

The superior soldiers you talk about are a joke they have little to no armor against UNSC weapons that were drawn back in the game due to the shielding. Also US Army are very weak they have low mortality rate cause of advanced medicine able to bring them alive and armor to save them, there are 10,000 or more injured soldiers with missing limbs etc.

Vehicles have nothing on them also the games were balanced so that it was a good game, does not show what they truly could do. They will have to look into it more to show how effective they are. Scorpions were made to be cheap and able to stand up against the Covenant army with high numbers of tank. The UNSC have other weapons including grizzlies that will annihilate an M1 even if the M1 got to shoot and hit the Grizzly first.

Even with few troops and equal troops the UNSC will win. Their RPG even can lock onto targets that are high up and the damage they do are enough to bring down an Apache before it could do damage.

The UNSC also has tanks to take out air forces in big numbers even those shielded.

  • 10.17.2011 9:31 PM PDT

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Also... guys the UNSC could just nuke everything from orbit.. literally. Not to mention MAC rounds and all the anti surface weapons their ships have. In fact, A frigate could probably enter atmosphere for close support, the only weapons that could hurt it would be cruise missiles which are slow and easily detectable.

Oh and the Longsword is not comparable to a jet fighter... it's more comparable to a weaponized spaceshuttle with more armor than an MBT and a chaingun to boot...

  • 10.17.2011 9:33 PM PDT


Posted by: Makko Mace
Also... guys the UNSC could just nuke everything from orbit.. literally. Not to mention MAC rounds and all the anti surface weapons their ships have. In fact, A frigate could probably enter atmosphere for close support, the only weapons that could hurt it would be cruise missiles which are slow and easily detectable.

Oh and the Longsword is not comparable to a jet fighter... it's more comparable to a weaponized spaceshuttle with more armor than an MBT and a chaingun to boot...
Compare them to the Hawk, or the F-99 Unmanned Aircraft.

  • 10.17.2011 9:35 PM PDT

yas334229812

Although i wish that 343I will give us an armory look at the UNSC there has to be more than there is in Halo Wars even those for engineering cores. Also the Covenant should have alot more vehicles than that.

  • 10.17.2011 9:37 PM PDT


Posted by: risay_117
Although i wish that 343I will give us an armory look at the UNSC there has to be more than there is in Halo Wars even those for engineering cores. Also the Covenant should have alot more vehicles than that.
Covenant have their fair share, the Ghost, Chopper, Revenant, Spectre, Prowler, Shadow, Wraith, Anti-Air Wraith, Locust, Scarab, Banshee, Vampire, Seraph, Spirit, and Phantom.

  • 10.17.2011 9:41 PM PDT

Longsword with their 110mm rotary cannons.

I know who I'm siding with.

  • 10.18.2011 12:40 AM PDT

People need to remember that weapons in Halo seem weaker because of balance and the sake of gameplay. For example a real plasma rifle would kill a person in 1-3 shots. A DMR/BR would be similar yet BUNGIE wanted to make a more Arena type game. The weapons are weaker to add more skill and depth to the game. You really think any normal human could live a headshot with a gun that shoots 3000+ degree plasma bolts?


So of course Halo wins. Yet here's a better fight for anyone defending the Modern Warefare troops

Covenant vs Modern Warefare Troops [lol]

  • 10.18.2011 8:51 AM PDT

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Imagine a hundred ODST drop pods just raining down and albatrosses carrying warthogs and tanks. But right before that, short sword bombers dropping disruption bombs.

  • 10.18.2011 10:31 PM PDT
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The warthog actually has much more advantages then a Humvee:

-Better weapons:

Gauss>>>>all

-Better Durability:

-Were seen surviving alot of damage like plasma weapons or sentinel beams(The Flood)

-Warthogs were seen jumping from large heights like in the end of CE when Chief jumped into that deep hole, a hummer in that situation would be destroyed unless someone can give a counter evidence.

-A UNSC ship crashed on a planet and the warthogs inside survived alongside the Marines who were behind the wheal

-Much more faster:

Warthog could go up to a speed of 125 kph

A Humvee's top speed is 105 kph and 89 kph at max gross weight

-More manueverable:

Like how they can drive over any terrain and obstacle.



It's just that the Humvee is protected by doors and glass but the sheer advantages of the Hog outweight it .

BTW vehicle battles are usually frontal assault and the front of the Hog is much better protected that the Hummy.
Why?Because the Hummers windows are placed vertically that means that bullets impacting it will penetrate it and kill it's occupants.And in case of the hog,the bullets will just bounce off because of it's windows are placed in a near horizontal way.

  • 10.19.2011 4:28 AM PDT


Posted by: S1LENT H3ADSHOT
halo reach would win since Spartans have shields and stronger Armour modules


what do you mean by halo reach?

  • 10.19.2011 5:06 AM PDT


Posted by: hotshot revan II
The warthog actually has much more advantages then a Humvee:

-Better weapons:

Gauss>>>>all

-Better Durability:

-Were seen surviving alot of damage like plasma weapons or sentinel beams(The Flood)

-Warthogs were seen jumping from large heights like in the end of CE when Chief jumped into that deep hole, a hummer in that situation would be destroyed unless someone can give a counter evidence.

-A UNSC ship crashed on a planet and the warthogs inside survived alongside the Marines who were behind the wheal

-Much more faster:

Warthog could go up to a speed of 125 kph

A Humvee's top speed is 105 kph and 89 kph at max gross weight

-More manueverable:

Like how they can drive over any terrain and obstacle.



It's just that the Humvee is protected by doors and glass but the sheer advantages of the Hog outweight it .

BTW vehicle battles are usually frontal assault and the front of the Hog is much better protected that the Hummy.
Why?Because the Hummers windows are placed vertically that means that bullets impacting it will penetrate it and kill it's occupants.And in case of the hog,the bullets will just bounce off because of it's windows are placed in a near horizontal way.


and you can put treads on a warthog

[Edited on 10.19.2011 5:07 AM PDT]

  • 10.19.2011 5:07 AM PDT

Hey, now!

This is officially either the greatest or worst thing to ever happen to Star Wars. I'm going with the former.

The UNSC wins without even breaking a sweat.

  • 10.19.2011 11:11 AM PDT

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UNSC. Timeline wise it's separated by 500 years. Imagine todays weapons and tactics being used in the revolutionary war.

  • 10.19.2011 12:08 PM PDT

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Why are people not putting them in situations a lot? Also, an elephant would probably be used as a mobile control base I guess. Maybe one for mobile command and another one to do any recovery and repair vehicle? I mean it has a big crane.
Imagine putting vehicles and things back into action with that!

  • 10.19.2011 9:43 PM PDT

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Posted by: hotshot revan II
The warthog actually has much more advantages then a Humvee:

-Better weapons:

Gauss>>>>all

-Better Durability:

-Were seen surviving alot of damage like plasma weapons or sentinel beams(The Flood)

-Warthogs were seen jumping from large heights like in the end of CE when Chief jumped into that deep hole, a hummer in that situation would be destroyed unless someone can give a counter evidence.

-A UNSC ship crashed on a planet and the warthogs inside survived alongside the Marines who were behind the wheal

-Much more faster:

Warthog could go up to a speed of 125 kph

A Humvee's top speed is 105 kph and 89 kph at max gross weight

-More manueverable:

Like how they can drive over any terrain and obstacle.



It's just that the Humvee is protected by doors and glass but the sheer advantages of the Hog outweight it .

BTW vehicle battles are usually frontal assault and the front of the Hog is much better protected that the Hummy.
Why?Because the Hummers windows are placed vertically that means that bullets impacting it will penetrate it and kill it's occupants.And in case of the hog,the bullets will just bounce off because of it's windows are placed in a near horizontal way.


and you can put treads on a warthog


*Couch cough*

Also.. the Warthogs armor is Titanium A, some ridiculous super metal, I don't even know if the Hummers gun could penetrate it. The armor on the Hummer though is not that great...


But one thing we need to realize here is that, IRL you don't just send in a squadron of Hummers to just stampede and splatter the enemy, the things aren't even designed for front line combat (hence all the armor add ons) an neither are Warthogs, they're Light Recon Vehicles, not some modernized lancer knight. They'd be used like more jeeps in WWII.

  • 10.19.2011 9:51 PM PDT

However, he is right in the fact the Warthog's facings are of the sort that'd deflect bullets, where as the hummer is a box.

  • 10.19.2011 10:27 PM PDT

Relevant

  • 10.19.2011 10:36 PM PDT

ODST wins but MW2 is a wicked campaign!

  • 10.19.2011 10:41 PM PDT


Posted by: Spartan 100
Why are people not putting them in situations a lot? Also, an elephant would probably be used as a mobile control base I guess. Maybe one for mobile command and another one to do any recovery and repair vehicle? I mean it has a big crane.
Imagine putting vehicles and things back into action with that!


When writing concerning Elephants I tend to have many.

One dedicated to command and control, several covered (aka Halo Wars or Halo 3 ODST style) for mobile triage or troop transport, then Halo 3 style for repair and fire-bases.

  • 10.19.2011 10:43 PM PDT

Hi!

What, I don't get the logic, so you can't use space or spartans, Why? Becuase if they use this halo would own.

  • 10.20.2011 1:39 PM PDT

The thing I think people are missing is the economic stand point. Think about it the UNSC has multiple planets to gather important minerals and with slipspace shipping, well you basically have unlimited minerals at your disposal. If you were to do a worse case where the US army completely out arms the UNSC (doubt it though) the UNSC has more resources to toss at the enemy.

  • 10.20.2011 4:54 PM PDT


Posted by: cha24robrandom
What, I don't get the logic, so you can't use space or spartans, Why? Becuase if they use this halo would own.


Classic case of vs topics. The one side gets a major part removed so the opponent stands a chance. Or that happens but no situation is labeled to make up for it.

  • 10.20.2011 5:13 PM PDT

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the unsc would certainly win, they are 500 years more advanced, we didnt even have guns 500 years ago. that is the tech difference we are talking about. even though the difference may not look to great on the outside, you have to take into account that all weapons and armor are designed to kill/withstand tech that is just as advanced. a modern assault rifle probably wouldn't even be able to penetrate a UNSC chest plate.

  • 10.20.2011 5:45 PM PDT

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I've never seen any tactics coming from friendly marine AI. Not even from the Spartans.

I don't even think Bungie has ever brought in outside help from real SF guys like the other blockbuster studios. I would have at least like to see ODST's do anything tactically but sadly no.

The game and the rest of the canon are just galaxies apart. I've yet to see a Spartan show a shred of his life time of training. Except maybe a little in the Halo Wars cutscenes.

  • 10.20.2011 6:42 PM PDT

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Posted by: Ignited Prophecy
I've never seen any tactics coming from friendly marine AI. Not even from the Spartans.

I don't even think Bungie has ever brought in outside help from real SF guys like the other blockbuster studios. I would have at least like to see ODST's do anything tactically but sadly no.

The game and the rest of the canon are just galaxies apart. I've yet to see a Spartan show a shred of his life time of training. Except maybe a little in the Halo Wars cutscenes.


I think you've got training confused with choreography...

  • 10.20.2011 6:48 PM PDT