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Subject: no halo 2 pistol :(
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The rounds in the pistol are explosive, try shooting it.

  • 05.13.2004 5:09 PM PDT
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Why would you need a pistol when you have all these great weapons!

  • 05.13.2004 5:18 PM PDT
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Just because we didnt see the pistol in the demonstration doesnt mean its not in the game.

Lets look at all of the weapons that we have seen, in either gameplay or screenshots, of Halo 2.

Battle Rifle
Shotgun
SMG
Plasma Rifle
Sniper Rifle
Spanker!
Plasma Pistol
Needler
Plasma Sword
Covenant Carbine (new covie gun, look in OXM and some of the screens)

And OXM has also confirmed that the fuel rod and covenant sniper rifle will be in the game, but we havnt seen them yet in any screens or videos.

I think there will be a pistol. The same pistol, no. It will definately be toned down (no zoom, less powerful) and probably fire faster. Of course, i really have no idea if there will be a pistol or not. I hope there is, as it would make the weapon set more complete (what game doesnt have a pistol?), but if there isnt, i wont cry about it.

  • 05.13.2004 5:31 PM PDT
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Posted by: stonewall 007

I think there will be a pistol. The same pistol, no. It will definately be toned down (no zoom, less powerful) and probably fire faster. Of course, i really have no idea if there will be a pistol or not. I hope there is, as it would make the weapon set more complete (what game doesnt have a pistol?), but if there isnt, i wont cry about it.


I think i would have to agree

  • 05.13.2004 5:36 PM PDT
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A simple bit of ballistics for the realist.

First you should all know that a bullet is propelled forwards by expanding gases caused by the ignition of gun powder. The expanding gases in a confined space push the bullet down the barrel. That much is obvious.

The longer this barrel is, the more time it is in the barrel. The longer it is in the barrel, the longer these expanding gases act upon the projectile. Thus, the longer the barrel, the more power the bullet possesses and the more "spin" the bullet possesses. (barrels are grooved so that the expanding gases accomplish spin) This greater power increases penetration and the spin gives more stability in flight. (The sniper rifle, with it's special fins is an exception to this general rule)

Thus, a pistol will never outperform a rifle in power or accuracy if it uses the same ammunition. In close quarters however, rate of fire, and maneuverability are more important. Hence the proliferation of carbines and submachine guns amongst SWAT times of the world.

The pistol has always been a secondary weapon. I want a pistol in Halo... and I would like it to be a short ranged, good at short range and moderately accurate at medium range but with a short clip and a huge caliber. That would be fairly balanced and two of those in dual wield... with a little skill would beat a single shotgun.

Luckily, I hear this is what Bungie has in mind from people who have read the Halo Novels.

  • 05.13.2004 5:40 PM PDT
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Draerden, i like your idea for a pistol, and it also fits the description from the book pretty well.

did bungie really say they had that in mind? yay!

  • 05.13.2004 5:43 PM PDT
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i dont think its right to be able to fight an entire war with a pistol. seems kinda cheesy, i think it should be less accurate and no zoom like a real pistol. remember its a secondary weapon. i wouldnt even include it. its not right to be a ble to own with the weapon that you spawn with, too easy. [/quote]

I agree, and the master chief never used the pistol like that in the books. The books are a whole lot more realisistic, but different. In the books the assualt rifle is the best weapon, but i barly use it in MP. The pistol is awesome, but is kinda unrealistic

  • 05.13.2004 6:04 PM PDT
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there will most likely be a pistol, i mean it may not be as good as in halo but u still have a type of a side arm. why in the first place would they throw away a hand gun. also like one of the other posts had said i would love it to if they didnt make the pistol powerful to where a team of however many took a whole bunch of pp out with hand guns. its just not cool ya dig plus i like the battle riffle and the smg anyway heehee

  • 05.13.2004 6:12 PM PDT
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I too believe the pistol was too powerful. Shotguns didn't have the range, plasma weapons were no match for it, and the machine gun didn't have the accuracy. The pistol could kill in a few quick hits, and with the zoom it made it stronger. Hopefully they either weaken it, make the other weapons stronger, or don't have it as a starting weapon. I like the battle rifle, it's like a machine gun and a pistol in one.

Thought: What's a FPS game without pistols? My guess is it will most likely be included.

  • 05.13.2004 6:19 PM PDT
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If it were up to me, I would have a 50. calibur pistol in the game. Getting your head grazed by a 50. cal would take off have your face.

  • 05.13.2004 6:20 PM PDT
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As unbalanced as it was, the pistol is what supplied a large chunk of Halo's fun for me. Though balancing weapons is cool, the pistol really added a nice touch to medium range combat. Although I think the battle rifle is a worthy successor indeed, I would like to see the return of the pistol with dual wielding. Think about it though, with the new pistol; if it indeed has a larger barrel and ammunition, then I think it would be safe to say that it's more inaccurate.

  • 05.13.2004 6:36 PM PDT
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Unrealistic my ass. You've obviously never shot a pistol before. A .50 cal at that. But enough with that.

First off the UNSC can't replace the M6D or the MA5B that fast. Halo took place in 2552. Halo 2 takes place just a few weeks later. And not by much at that. So it is impractical for a military force the size of the UNSC to replace all their standard issue weapons in such a short period of time. Also read my quote. I think it speaks for itself

  • 05.13.2004 6:41 PM PDT

Play as a team win as a team or die as a team!


First of all Halo 2 should have all the OLD School Halo guns + the new ones to so if people have their favorites than they can use it. And in war u need to have like a secondary weapon like a handgun like the pistol I don't care if its Master Cheif but I don't now. And will the Marines and ODSTs have 2 weapons like Master Cheif?

  • 05.13.2004 7:31 PM PDT
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It could be that the standard issue weapons in halo were for a different group of people. The standard weaponry for the earthbound marines may be different than for those in space. Or, the weapon changes had been in progress, but not done before the pillar of autumn jumped from reach.

  • 05.13.2004 8:25 PM PDT
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Dude, how can you say the pistorl is not overpowered? Three shots, BLAM BLAM BLAM, you're dead. If your out in the open, you haven't got a chance in hell against a good player that has seen you and understands what a powerful tool the pistol is.
Let's review.
The pistol has a large magazine with ten reloads, making ammo an non-issue. It is often the best choice for any mid to long range firefight. You can even knock people out of tanks, ghosts, and hogs with a few well placed shots. There is no way to trace the shot, as there is with rocket launchers and snipers, so you can camp in varied places and earn several killtaculars. You get a small zoom, coupled with a very acurate targeting reticule. Lastly, its melee animation kicks ass.

and as far as being hit with a rocket across the level... uhhmm... sidestep? change camping spots every 30 seconds or so? Jesus dude, how could you not see a rocket coming at you going 15MPH?

  • 05.13.2004 10:36 PM PDT
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the pistol is freakin cheap, you can snipe with it. since when do snipers snip with pistols. i personaly love the battle rifle and i already know that that is going to be the gun i'm going to use like all the time. besides its versitle. you can use it sorta like a machine gun and sorta like the pistol. so its cool. me likey

  • 05.14.2004 12:13 AM PDT

Me: "OMFG, Dude... wtf!"
AbolitionofMan: "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to betray you."
Me: "That's the 4th time in this game alone!"
Chris: "Third, besides he had the flag I was trying to stop him, how was I supposed to know you were there."
Me: "I said, 'I got the Flag, don't shoot.'"
Chris: "Well those Wraith shots take a while to reach you."
Me: "You were right next to me, I had killed him and a minute passed before you decided to shoot."
Chris: "Hahahahaha, yeah... that was great."

I enjoy being a dick in Halo MP, being a sniper and all. Though I actually use an S2 and not the cheap piece of crap pistol. It is my last resort. I would rather take an AR to it....just because I am disgusted with it's overpowerness, If I lose so be it. But I will not use such an over obviously powerful weapon. I think a pistol will be in H2, though no where near as accurate long range or as powerful. And the only .50 cal pistol I can think of is the Desert Eagle, (correct me if I am wrong), but if you do not hold it right it will ripe your arm off with the recoil also, the accuracy is crap after I think 25-50 yards. It has no barrel to travel out of....all accurate shots are fired from long barrels....give that thing a long @ss barrel and then maybe I'll believe in it. Oh wait....they already did that...it's called the S2 AM Sniper Rifle.

Achilles

  • 05.14.2004 1:10 AM PDT
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I voted yes b/c it's like losing an old friend. Like many of you, that pistol became one of my dearest friends 10 minutes after bringing home my XBox at 12:15am on November 15th, 2001. She was as fair and true a friend as any soldier could ask for. Reliable in a fight, generous with ammo, accurate beyond description, and powerful to a fault, she was a deadly, sexy friend whose trigger we will pull no more.

Let us all bow our heads for a moment and listen to "Happiness is a Warm Gun."

There. I feel better. If our sweet friend does not join us in Halo 2, let us be thankful of the times we had with her. If, as it seems, she will not join us on our journey, let us not hold anger, bitterness, or resentment towards the fine people of Bungie. Instead, let us find something else to fill that void, or possibly to make us feel complete; nay, let us find something else to blow away alien menaces and our friends alike.

Rest in peace, dear M6D, you earned it.

  • 05.14.2004 1:29 AM PDT
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When 1 play halo Mp free 4 all i never heard any pistol shots coz any1 that used it would get slammed in2 the ground by som1 with a plasma pistol or assulte rifle the pistol isn't that strong but still useful if its all you got. I only use it on boarding action coz u carn't c any tracers or trails on the shot and when where play blood gulth the siper rifles more use coz of the maps size. Anyway i can kill long range with a plasma rifle

But still it was a very strong weapon i don't like it and that my desision


[Edited on 5/14/2004 2:21:33 AM]

  • 05.14.2004 2:12 AM PDT
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What about a pistol whith a silencer...that would bring the balence it needed!
less damaged less noise.
I wouldnt be at all surprised!
Think about it, makes perfect sence.

  • 05.14.2004 4:26 AM PDT

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