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Oy... Flood meets necromorphs, Flood population explodes.

  • 10.23.2011 11:03 PM PDT

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Posted by: ROBERTO jh
What both have:

They both are a muderous super infection that jacks your entire body.

Both are controlled by a Hivemind.

Both have various "races" of "foot-soldiers," such as the standard Necro vs the Combat Form.

What Flood have Necros don't:

The Gravemind is nealy limitless in intellect, bordering on omniscience, maybe even omnipotence. The Necro Hivemind never struck me as a truly sapient life-form.

The Flood DON'T need victims to reproduce and would reach trillions in a single swarm.

And (I don't know if the Necros can do this, but, eh) the Flood is also an airborne disease as well.

Flood can pilot Starships and operate weaponry.

The Flood defeated the Forerunners. Really that should be the deciding factor there when you consider the infnite might of the Forerunner military

The Flood Super Cell is instantly adaptable, allowing for a new breed of Flood to enter the fray should the Gravemind wish.

Flood>Necros


This guy explained it pretty good.

  • 10.24.2011 3:28 AM PDT

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Posted by: ThePredkiller2
Xenomorph > Necromorph > Flood

Sorry.
Are you speaking of the Xenomorph's from Star Wars or Alien vs Predator?


-_- Just Alien kiddo.

  • 10.24.2011 2:00 PM PDT

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Posted by: ThePredkiller2
Xenomorph > Necromorph > Flood

Sorry.
maybe in terms of individual fighting ability, but the numbers are reversed when you look at it in terms of infectiousness. Compared to the flood and necros the aliens have a very slow and inefficient life cycle, taking up to a day to produce each new alien. on top of all that it can only be done to live, healthy hosts, unlike the necros who can infect corpses, and the flood who can infect anything with an intact nervous system. the only advantage that the aliens have is that they would be immune to flood infection due to their acid blood killing any infection forms that attempt to penetrate their skin. This also works both ways, as I doubt an alien could incubate in something as twisted as a combat form, or necromorph for that matter. so assuming there are viable hosts in the area, the flood would overwhelm both the aliens and the necromorphs with sheer numbers. Not even considering a gravemind

  • 10.24.2011 6:40 PM PDT

"Halo! Its divine wind will rush through the stars, propelling all who are worthy along the path to salvation."

The Flood, the Necros still have calcium, the Flood would absorb them for breakfast.

  • 10.24.2011 7:15 PM PDT

The flood, it has evolved...

  • 10.24.2011 7:21 PM PDT

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Posted by: greatestSheriff
The Flood, the Necros still have calcium, the Flood would absorb them for breakfast.


And for Lunch....and dessert....and dinner...and maybe breakfast for the next day.

  • 10.24.2011 8:01 PM PDT


Posted by: Darthbill99

Posted by: ThePredkiller2
Xenomorph > Necromorph > Flood

Sorry.
maybe in terms of individual fighting ability, but the numbers are reversed when you look at it in terms of infectiousness. Compared to the flood and necros the aliens have a very slow and inefficient life cycle, taking up to a day to produce each new alien. on top of all that it can only be done to live, healthy hosts, unlike the necros who can infect corpses, and the flood who can infect anything with an intact nervous system. the only advantage that the aliens have is that they would be immune to flood infection due to their acid blood killing any infection forms that attempt to penetrate their skin. This also works both ways, as I doubt an alien could incubate in something as twisted as a combat form, or necromorph for that matter. so assuming there are viable hosts in the area, the flood would overwhelm both the aliens and the necromorphs with sheer numbers. Not even considering a gravemind


You are forgetting something.

Ripley: What was your special order?
Ash: You read it. I thought it was clear.
Ripley: What was it?
Ash: Bring back life form. Priority One. All other priorities rescinded.
Parker: The damn company. What about our lives, you son of a -blam!-?
Ash: I repeat, all other priorities are rescinded.
Ripley: How do we kill it Ash? There's gotta be a way of killing it. How? How do we do it?
Ash: You can't.
Parker: That's bull-blam!-.
Ash: You still don't understand what you're dealing with, do you? Perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility.
Lambert: You admire it.
Ash: I admire its purity. A survivor... unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality.

Also, if you watch the movies, the aliens win pretty much...all the time. They kill one in the first movie, hundreds more come back in the second. They kill all those and it still manages to get an embryo through. Then they kill that one and the one inside her. And THEN 200 years LATER they CLONE her AND IT INSIDE OF HER and then they manage to stop them before they get to Earth.......only to find out hundreds of years EARLIER.........they had been on Earth all along.

So even if they all were wiped out...they would still come back...because they are the perfect organism....they are.....eternal.

They have no beginning, and apparently, have no end.

Not to mention nor Halo, nor Dead Space, would even exist TODAY if it weren't for the Alien movies.........IN THE FIRST PLACE!

Thus, they win by default.

Xenomorph > Necromorph > Flood

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Flood. They have numbers and intelligence, besides they defeated one of the most overpowered aliens races in history. If I remember correctly the Flood doesn't need to infect the Necromorphs. The Infection form takes control of the hosts nervous system and spinal column, therefore controlling its movements. The Necromorph may not be Flood, but it can't control its body either. If i'm right.

  • 10.24.2011 9:15 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

I think it is fairly obvious that if the Flood, Necromorphs and Xenomorphs had a war between each other at their full might then the Flood would win.

I mean, the Flood have a central command figure (Gravemind and his Proto-graveminds) that has knowledge beyond limits (corrupting A.I's, controlling the Flood in the whole Galaxy, etc), the Flood also has numbers greater than both Necromorph and Xenomorph combined and they also have immunity to infection by the other two factions.

The Xenomorphs might have superior cunning (Supposing the Flood are still at their feral state) but they have been defeated by normal humans before (See Alien movies and Aliens Vs Predator 1-2), hell, Predators would fill entire cities with them as rituals and only if the population got out of hand did they get killed (see Aliens vs Predator, 3 Predators in a flashback face some thousands of Aliens although they get killed but they blow them up regardless).

Necromorphs...well, they are smart too, I suppose, but they are no competition to the Flood and Xenomorphs, I mean Isaac Clark was able to scroll through the first game without complications, taking out all types of Necromorphs that tried to kill him, even the Hivemind....so yeah...

And there's also the issue with the Flood Pureforms designed to counteract specific threats (See Ranger, Stalker and Tank form) and the Graveminds omniscience and well, the other two factions are screwed.

  • 10.24.2011 9:35 PM PDT

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I go with the Flood, they are the best alien invasive parasite form ever created!

  • 10.24.2011 9:50 PM PDT
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Posted by: MasterSin
I go with the Flood, they are the best alien invasive parasite form ever created!


'Nids.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

These threads are completely idiotic.

The basic forms of both aliens would not be able to infect each other.

And if we were talking about an actual infection you retarded to say the flood would win. Necromorphs are pure horror parasites they can infect an extremely large area in mere hours; not to mention they have far more forms and intelligence than the flood do.

Pretty much the flood is an actual joke compared to "true" alien parasites.

  • 10.26.2011 6:10 AM PDT

I choose the name Spartan1337 when I couldn't think of anything better, not much else to say really... :/

It not wrong to seek opinion you know.

Anyways I say the Flood. They have more numbers and are more diverse when it comes to assimilation.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: Spartan1337
It not wrong to seek opinion you know.

Anyways I say the Flood. They have more numbers and are more diverse when it comes to assimilation.


Are you serious?

  • 10.26.2011 7:19 AM PDT

Posted by: ElementalRunner

Posted by: Commander Stroll
Still using a pump-action shotgun over 500 years in the future I see.

omg not realistic stop game production plz


Posted by: grey101
These threads are completely idiotic.

The basic forms of both aliens would not be able to infect each other.

And if we were talking about an actual infection you retarded to say the flood would win. Necromorphs are pure horror parasites they can infect an extremely large area in mere hours; not to mention they have far more forms and intelligence than the flood do.

Pretty much the flood is an actual joke compared to "true" alien parasites.


You have got to be kidding me....this is your response??

Yes, the Flood is such a joke; a parasite which defeated the Forerunners, is intellegent enough with its Gravemind to control vehicles, starships and use weaponry, has huge infectivity (via Flood Carrier forms, Flood Infectors, and airborne Flood virus). Such a joke....

As opposed to Necromorphs, which whilst they have a variety of lethal forms, are poor in intellegence (what in gods name made you think the opposite?) and have their critically weak areas of their bodies glowing yellow so you know where to shoot... O.o

I'm sorry, but pose at least some form of backing for your argument next time....

You know why the Necromorphs appear more terrifying and infectious? Because in the Dead Space game, you play as a damned Engineer with a bunch of mining tools for weapons in a survival horror game with shock moments, FFS....whereas the Flood appear less terrifying because they're in a sci-fi action game where you play as one of the most capable and lethal soldiers humanity has ever produed.

Consider the context of games as well...

  • 10.26.2011 7:41 AM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: CoolCJ24

Posted by: grey101
These threads are completely idiotic.

The basic forms of both aliens would not be able to infect each other.

And if we were talking about an actual infection you retarded to say the flood would win. Necromorphs are pure horror parasites they can infect an extremely large area in mere hours; not to mention they have far more forms and intelligence than the flood do.

Pretty much the flood is an actual joke compared to "true" alien parasites.


You have got to be kidding me....this is your response??

Yes, the Flood is such a joke; a parasite which defeated the Forerunners, is intellegent enough with its Gravemind to control vehicles, starships and use weaponry, has huge infectivity (via Flood Carrier forms, Flood Infectors, and airborne Flood virus). Such a joke....

As opposed to Necromorphs, which whilst they have a variety of lethal forms, are poor in intellegence (what in gods name made you think the opposite?) and have their critically weak areas of their bodies glowing yellow so you know where to shoot... O.o

I'm sorry, but pose at least some form of backing for your argument next time....

You know why the Necromorphs appear more terrifying and infectious? Because in the Dead Space game, you play as a damned Engineer with a bunch of mining tools for weapons in a survival horror game with shock moments, FFS....whereas the Flood appear less terrifying because they're in a sci-fi action game where you play as one of the most capable and lethal soldiers humanity has ever produed.

Consider the context of games as well...


1. the forerunners didn't fight the flood with a full military, the forerunners waited 300 years to do anything, the forerunners didn't take the flood seriously, and the forerunners wouldn't kill them due to the "mantle".


Thus the forerunners not beating them holds no weight. Not to mention they would have won despite all of that had mendicant bias not seen how horrible of a race they are.

2.The necromorphs are poor in intelligence but can hunt in packs and overwhelm you in diversity rather than sheer numbers like the flood. Last time a checked they didn't have the huge yellow spots in the motion comics,why? because that is a gameplay device telling you where to shoot.

Everybody picked up where to shoot the flood after getting your ass handed to you on the library.

3.Engineer that has retired from what 30 years (i think) in the military? not to mention that the game is dark and suppose to be scary; The flood were scary in the first two games due to fighting them in low level lighting.


Again; if the lighting was turned down and we have a game that was about fighting the flood more so than the covenant the flood would be scary. The flood have never been the direct main enemy so the focus hasn't been on them.

o0o master chief is scared sh1tless by the flood,FYI

  • 10.26.2011 7:52 AM PDT

Posted by: ElementalRunner

Posted by: Commander Stroll
Still using a pump-action shotgun over 500 years in the future I see.

omg not realistic stop game production plz


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: CoolCJ24

Posted by: grey101
These threads are completely idiotic.

The basic forms of both aliens would not be able to infect each other.

And if we were talking about an actual infection you retarded to say the flood would win. Necromorphs are pure horror parasites they can infect an extremely large area in mere hours; not to mention they have far more forms and intelligence than the flood do.

Pretty much the flood is an actual joke compared to "true" alien parasites.


You have got to be kidding me....this is your response??

Yes, the Flood is such a joke; a parasite which defeated the Forerunners, is intellegent enough with its Gravemind to control vehicles, starships and use weaponry, has huge infectivity (via Flood Carrier forms, Flood Infectors, and airborne Flood virus). Such a joke....

As opposed to Necromorphs, which whilst they have a variety of lethal forms, are poor in intellegence (what in gods name made you think the opposite?) and have their critically weak areas of their bodies glowing yellow so you know where to shoot... O.o

I'm sorry, but pose at least some form of backing for your argument next time....

You know why the Necromorphs appear more terrifying and infectious? Because in the Dead Space game, you play as a damned Engineer with a bunch of mining tools for weapons in a survival horror game with shock moments, FFS....whereas the Flood appear less terrifying because they're in a sci-fi action game where you play as one of the most capable and lethal soldiers humanity has ever produed.

Consider the context of games as well...


1. the forerunners didn't fight the flood with a full military, the forerunners waited 300 years to do anything, the forerunners didn't take the flood seriously, and the forerunners wouldn't kill them due to the "mantle".


Thus the forerunners not beating them holds no weight. Not to mention they would have won despite all of that had mendicant bias not seen how horrible of a race they are.

2.The necromorphs are poor in intelligence but can hunt in packs and overwhelm you in diversity rather than sheer numbers like the flood. Last time a checked they didn't have the huge yellow spots in the motion comics,why? because that is a gameplay device telling you where to shoot.

Everybody picked up where to shoot the flood after getting your ass handed to you on the library.

3.Engineer that has retired from what 30 years (i think) in the military? not to mention that the game is dark and suppose to be scary; The flood were scary in the first two games due to fighting them in low level lighting.


Again; if the lighting was turned down and we have a game that was about fighting the flood more so than the covenant the flood would be scary. The flood have never been the direct main enemy so the focus hasn't been on them.

o0o master chief is scared sh1tless by the flood,FYI


1. Whether or not one classes the Forerunners to have not done muh about the Flood for three hundred years, the point is that the Flood infected and brought the Forerunners to near extinction...the Ecumene, brought to its knees, a civilisation spanning the whole milky way with Tier 1 technology, forced to commit galactic genocide in order to halt the wretched infection.

2. I have never seen the Necromorphs hunt in packs in any Dead Space game. I have played the story mode of both games, twice, and they attack similar to the Flood, in numbers with varying forms. It is an effective means of attack for both Flood and Necromorphs, both of which use ranged, combat and carrier forms. In their means of attack, the two are identical. And the yellow spots on Necros? That's canon confirmed, it's on several of the Dead Space wiki articles.

3. Isaac Clarke was in the Merchant Marines for about, 15-20 years at the maximum. Merchant Marines essentially protect cargo travelling from system to system. Essentially, like an Airport Security Guard of today. Has some basic training with weapons and combat, but nothing beyond basic....I doubt Isaac saw much, if any, combat in his years as a mere Merchant Marine.

I doubt Halo's Flood could be as scary as Dead Space's Necros in gameplay, because the Necros are sent into the map using shock moments. Usually those bloody vents that I hate so much.

[Edited on 10.26.2011 9:04 AM PDT]

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: CoolCJ24

Posted by: grey101

Posted by: CoolCJ24

Posted by: grey101
These threads are completely idiotic.

The basic forms of both aliens would not be able to infect each other.

And if we were talking about an actual infection you retarded to say the flood would win. Necromorphs are pure horror parasites they can infect an extremely large area in mere hours; not to mention they have far more forms and intelligence than the flood do.

Pretty much the flood is an actual joke compared to "true" alien parasites.


You have got to be kidding me....this is your response??

Yes, the Flood is such a joke; a parasite which defeated the Forerunners, is intellegent enough with its Gravemind to control vehicles, starships and use weaponry, has huge infectivity (via Flood Carrier forms, Flood Infectors, and airborne Flood virus). Such a joke....

As opposed to Necromorphs, which whilst they have a variety of lethal forms, are poor in intellegence (what in gods name made you think the opposite?) and have their critically weak areas of their bodies glowing yellow so you know where to shoot... O.o

I'm sorry, but pose at least some form of backing for your argument next time....

You know why the Necromorphs appear more terrifying and infectious? Because in the Dead Space game, you play as a damned Engineer with a bunch of mining tools for weapons in a survival horror game with shock moments, FFS....whereas the Flood appear less terrifying because they're in a sci-fi action game where you play as one of the most capable and lethal soldiers humanity has ever produed.

Consider the context of games as well...


1. the forerunners didn't fight the flood with a full military, the forerunners waited 300 years to do anything, the forerunners didn't take the flood seriously, and the forerunners wouldn't kill them due to the "mantle".


Thus the forerunners not beating them holds no weight. Not to mention they would have won despite all of that had mendicant bias not seen how horrible of a race they are.

2.The necromorphs are poor in intelligence but can hunt in packs and overwhelm you in diversity rather than sheer numbers like the flood. Last time a checked they didn't have the huge yellow spots in the motion comics,why? because that is a gameplay device telling you where to shoot.

Everybody picked up where to shoot the flood after getting your ass handed to you on the library.

3.Engineer that has retired from what 30 years (i think) in the military? not to mention that the game is dark and suppose to be scary; The flood were scary in the first two games due to fighting them in low level lighting.


Again; if the lighting was turned down and we have a game that was about fighting the flood more so than the covenant the flood would be scary. The flood have never been the direct main enemy so the focus hasn't been on them.

o0o master chief is scared sh1tless by the flood,FYI


1. Whether or not one classes the Forerunners to have not done muh about the Flood for three hundred years, the point is that the Flood infected and brought the Forerunners to near extinction...the Ecumene, brought to its knees, a civilisation spanning the whole milky way with Tier 1 technology, forced to commit galactic genocide in order to halt the wretched infection.

2. I have never seen the Necromorphs hunt in packs in any Dead Space game. I have played the story mode of both games, twice, and they attack similar to the Flood, in numbers with varying forms. It is an effective means of attack for both Flood and Necromorphs, both of which use ranged, combat and carrier forms. In their means of attack, the two are identical. And the yellow spots on Necros? That's canon confirmed, it's on several of the Dead Space wiki articles.

3. Isaac Clarke was in the Merchant Marines for about, 15-20 years at the maximum. Merchant Marines essentially protect cargo travelling from system to system. Essentially, like an Airport Security Guard of today. Has some basic training with weapons and combat, but nothing beyond basic....I doubt Isaac saw much, if any, combat in his years as a mere Merchant Marine.

I doubt Halo's Flood could be as scary as Dead Space's Necros in gameplay, because the Necros are sent into the map using shock moments. Usually those bloody vents that I hate so much.


1.please use modern English and you just ignored all of the factors that caused the forerunners to fall. your avoiding the point.

And the Ecumene was brought down single-handedly by mendicant bias; not the the flood. Nor where the forerunners brought "to near extinction" by the flood. They used the Halos and hid before the flood could truly damage their race.


The point being the flood honestly didn't do anything to the forerunners. they just acted as cowards and moved before it could.

2."I have never seen them hunt in packs".

That means you never played deadspace two, and since when is a wiki considered the source for anything? the only wikis i know that should actually be trusted word for word are RPG wikis like the fallout wiki.

And the necromorphs have several ranged forms; halowars aside the flood only have one.

3.Regardless he knows his way around a weapon.

  • 10.26.2011 9:18 AM PDT

Posted by: ElementalRunner

Posted by: Commander Stroll
Still using a pump-action shotgun over 500 years in the future I see.

omg not realistic stop game production plz


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: CoolCJ24

Posted by: grey101

Posted by: CoolCJ24

Posted by: grey101
These threads are completely idiotic.

The basic forms of both aliens would not be able to infect each other.

And if we were talking about an actual infection you retarded to say the flood would win. Necromorphs are pure horror parasites they can infect an extremely large area in mere hours; not to mention they have far more forms and intelligence than the flood do.

Pretty much the flood is an actual joke compared to "true" alien parasites.


You have got to be kidding me....this is your response??

Yes, the Flood is such a joke; a parasite which defeated the Forerunners, is intellegent enough with its Gravemind to control vehicles, starships and use weaponry, has huge infectivity (via Flood Carrier forms, Flood Infectors, and airborne Flood virus). Such a joke....

As opposed to Necromorphs, which whilst they have a variety of lethal forms, are poor in intellegence (what in gods name made you think the opposite?) and have their critically weak areas of their bodies glowing yellow so you know where to shoot... O.o

I'm sorry, but pose at least some form of backing for your argument next time....

You know why the Necromorphs appear more terrifying and infectious? Because in the Dead Space game, you play as a damned Engineer with a bunch of mining tools for weapons in a survival horror game with shock moments, FFS....whereas the Flood appear less terrifying because they're in a sci-fi action game where you play as one of the most capable and lethal soldiers humanity has ever produed.

Consider the context of games as well...


1. the forerunners didn't fight the flood with a full military, the forerunners waited 300 years to do anything, the forerunners didn't take the flood seriously, and the forerunners wouldn't kill them due to the "mantle".


Thus the forerunners not beating them holds no weight. Not to mention they would have won despite all of that had mendicant bias not seen how horrible of a race they are.

2.The necromorphs are poor in intelligence but can hunt in packs and overwhelm you in diversity rather than sheer numbers like the flood. Last time a checked they didn't have the huge yellow spots in the motion comics,why? because that is a gameplay device telling you where to shoot.

Everybody picked up where to shoot the flood after getting your ass handed to you on the library.

3.Engineer that has retired from what 30 years (i think) in the military? not to mention that the game is dark and suppose to be scary; The flood were scary in the first two games due to fighting them in low level lighting.


Again; if the lighting was turned down and we have a game that was about fighting the flood more so than the covenant the flood would be scary. The flood have never been the direct main enemy so the focus hasn't been on them.

o0o master chief is scared sh1tless by the flood,FYI


1. Whether or not one classes the Forerunners to have not done muh about the Flood for three hundred years, the point is that the Flood infected and brought the Forerunners to near extinction...the Ecumene, brought to its knees, a civilisation spanning the whole milky way with Tier 1 technology, forced to commit galactic genocide in order to halt the wretched infection.

2. I have never seen the Necromorphs hunt in packs in any Dead Space game. I have played the story mode of both games, twice, and they attack similar to the Flood, in numbers with varying forms. It is an effective means of attack for both Flood and Necromorphs, both of which use ranged, combat and carrier forms. In their means of attack, the two are identical. And the yellow spots on Necros? That's canon confirmed, it's on several of the Dead Space wiki articles.

3. Isaac Clarke was in the Merchant Marines for about, 15-20 years at the maximum. Merchant Marines essentially protect cargo travelling from system to system. Essentially, like an Airport Security Guard of today. Has some basic training with weapons and combat, but nothing beyond basic....I doubt Isaac saw much, if any, combat in his years as a mere Merchant Marine.

I doubt Halo's Flood could be as scary as Dead Space's Necros in gameplay, because the Necros are sent into the map using shock moments. Usually those bloody vents that I hate so much.


1.please use modern English and you just ignored all of the factors that caused the forerunners to fall. your avoiding the point.

And the Ecumene was brought down single-handedly by mendicant bias; not the the flood. Nor where the forerunners brought "to near extinction" by the flood. They used the Halos and hid before the flood could truly damage their race.


The point being the flood honestly didn't do anything to the forerunners. they just acted as cowards and moved before it could.

2."I have never seen them hunt in packs".

That means you never played deadspace two, and since when is a wiki considered the source for anything? the only wikis i know that should actually be trusted word for word are RPG wikis like the fallout wiki.

And the necromorphs have several ranged forms; halowars aside the flood only have one.

3.Regardless he knows his way around a weapon.


1. "please use modern english" AHH CRAP! How could I have missed out the "c" in "much"? What was I THINKING?? I'm so sorry, captain. I'll never miss a letter out again, mein Fuhrer.

1. Moving on to the point, you just proved the Flood's prowess yourself. Their ability to create a Gravemind which manipulate the most powerful Forerunner AI ever is a good sign of being pretty damn powerful. And of course the Forerunners got smacked pretty badly by the Flood for christ's sake, they were having to wipe whole solar systems in desperate attempts to slow the ferocious advances the Flood were making (which quite obviously, were not truly effective). They used the Halo array because it was their LAST option. Nothing else could halt the damn Flood by that point.

2. I have already said in my last post that I've played Dead Space 2 twice, so can you stop questioning that? I like the DS games, why would I lie about it?? With two playthroughs I can confirm that the Necromorphs do not hunt in packs. They are intellegent enough to use the venting systems as a means to attack, but that's about it.

And right, of course. No-one can trust/use the Dead Space wiki for Dead Space information because of course, there are hundreds of mischievous internet trolls editing and ruining that wiki every hour! The information must all be incorrect and untrustable with it being a wiki...

3. Isaac Clarke is, whether you like it or not, a CEC Engineer who "knows his way around a weapon". John-117, on the other hand, is a biologically and technologically enhanced super-soldier wearing titanium alloy armour with energy shielding, as well as being near flawless with the average rifle/pistol and capable of using any UNSC or Covie weapon he picks up to a good skill.

I think it's pretty clear why it's less scary to face the Flood as John-117 than it is to face the Necromorphs as Isaac Clarke.

Ugh, I'm practically having to repeat my whole last post. -_-

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: CoolCJ24

Posted by: grey101

Posted by: CoolCJ24

Posted by: grey101
These threads are completely idiotic.

The basic forms of both aliens would not be able to infect each other.

And if we were talking about an actual infection you retarded to say the flood would win. Necromorphs are pure horror parasites they can infect an extremely large area in mere hours; not to mention they have far more forms and intelligence than the flood do.

Pretty much the flood is an actual joke compared to "true" alien parasites.[/quote]

You have got to be kidding me....this is your response??

Yes, the Flood is such a joke; a parasite which defeated the Forerunners, is intellegent enough with its Gravemind to control vehicles, starships and use weaponry, has huge infectivity (via Flood Carrier forms, Flood Infectors, and airborne Flood virus). Such a joke....

As opposed to Necromorphs, which whilst they have a variety of lethal forms, are poor in intellegence (what in gods name made you think the opposite?) and have their critically weak areas of their bodies glowing yellow so you know where to shoot... O.o

I'm sorry, but pose at least some form of backing for your argument next time....

You know why the Necromorphs appear more terrifying and infectious? Because in the Dead Space game, you play as a damned Engineer with a bunch of mining tools for weapons in a survival horror game with shock moments, FFS....whereas the Flood appear less terrifying because they're in a sci-fi action game where you play as one of the most capable and lethal soldiers humanity has ever produed.

Consider the context of games as well...[/quote]

1. the forerunners didn't fight the flood with a full military, the forerunners waited 300 years to do anything, the forerunners didn't take the flood seriously, and the forerunners wouldn't kill them due to the "mantle".


Thus the forerunners not beating them holds no weight. Not to mention they would have won despite all of that had mendicant bias not seen how horrible of a race they are.

2.The necromorphs are poor in intelligence but can hunt in packs and overwhelm you in diversity rather than sheer numbers like the flood. Last time a checked they didn't have the huge yellow spots in the motion comics,why? because that is a gameplay device telling you where to shoot.

Everybody picked up where to shoot the flood after getting your ass handed to you on the library.

3.Engineer that has retired from what 30 years (i think) in the military? not to mention that the game is dark and suppose to be scary; The flood were scary in the first two games due to fighting them in low level lighting.


Again; if the lighting was turned down and we have a game that was about fighting the flood more so than the covenant the flood would be scary. The flood have never been the direct main enemy so the focus hasn't been on them.

o0o master chief is scared sh1tless by the flood,FYI


1. Whether or not one classes the Forerunners to have not done muh about the Flood for three hundred years, the point is that the Flood infected and brought the Forerunners to near extinction...the Ecumene, brought to its knees, a civilisation spanning the whole milky way with Tier 1 technology, forced to commit galactic genocide in order to halt the wretched infection.

2. I have never seen the Necromorphs hunt in packs in any Dead Space game. I have played the story mode of both games, twice, and they attack similar to the Flood, in numbers with varying forms. It is an effective means of attack for both Flood and Necromorphs, both of which use ranged, combat and carrier forms. In their means of attack, the two are identical. And the yellow spots on Necros? That's canon confirmed, it's on several of the Dead Space wiki articles.

3. Isaac Clarke was in the Merchant Marines for about, 15-20 years at the maximum. Merchant Marines essentially protect cargo travelling from system to system. Essentially, like an Airport Security Guard of today. Has some basic training with weapons and combat, but nothing beyond basic....I doubt Isaac saw much, if any, combat in his years as a mere Merchant Marine.

I doubt Halo's Flood could be as scary as Dead Space's Necros in gameplay, because the Necros are sent into the map using shock moments. Usually those bloody vents that I hate so much.


1.please use modern English and you just ignored all of the factors that caused the forerunners to fall. your avoiding the point.

And the Ecumene was brought down single-handedly by mendicant bias; not the the flood. Nor where the forerunners brought "to near extinction" by the flood. They used the Halos and hid before the flood could truly damage their race.


The point being the flood honestly didn't do anything to the forerunners. they just acted as cowards and moved before it could.

2."I have never seen them hunt in packs".

That means you never played deadspace two, and since when is a wiki considered the source for anything? the only wikis i know that should actually be trusted word for word are RPG wikis like the fallout wiki.

And the necromorphs have several ranged forms; halowars aside the flood only have one.

3.Regardless he knows his way around a weapon.


1. "please use modern english" AHH CRAP! How could I have missed out the "c" in "much"? What was I THINKING?? I'm so sorry, captain. I'll never miss a letter out again, mein Fuhrer.

1. Moving on to the point, you just proved the Flood's prowess yourself. Their ability to create a Gravemind which manipulate the most powerful Forerunner AI ever is a good sign of being pretty damn powerful. And of course the Forerunners got smacked pretty badly by the Flood for christ's sake, they were having to wipe whole solar systems in desperate attempts to slow the ferocious advances the Flood were making (which quite obviously, were not truly effective). They used the Halo array because it was their LAST option. Nothing else could halt the damn Flood by that point.

2. I have already said in my last post that I've played Dead Space 2 twice, so can you stop questioning that? I like the DS games, why would I lie about it?? With two playthroughs I can confirm that the Necromorphs do not hunt in packs. They are intellegent enough to use the venting systems as a means to attack, but that's about it.

And right, of course. No-one can trust/use the Dead Space wiki for Dead Space information because of course, there are hundreds of mischievous internet trolls editing and ruining that wiki every hour! The information must all be incorrect and untrustable with it being a wiki...

3. Isaac Clarke is, whether you like it or not, a CEC Engineer who "knows his way around a weapon". John-117, on the other hand, is a biologically and technologically enhanced super-soldier wearing titanium alloy armour with energy shielding, as well as being near flawless with the average rifle/pistol and capable of using any UNSC or Covie weapon he picks up to a good skill.

I think it's pretty clear why it's less scary to face the Flood as John-117 than it is to face the Necromorphs as Isaac Clarke.

Ugh, I'm practically having to repeat my whole last post. -_-



1. Medicant bias wasn't manipulated he chose the flood, he appealed to the logic the gravemind offered. it wasn't until 10,000 years later he realized he picked the wrong side.

in otherwords it was his forerunnality.


The halo affect was far from the "last resort" which means you have done ever single other option. They did not try to reconcile with the humans and just ask for a cure, they did not abandon the mantle and just kill the flood, they did not fight in full force.

Therefore they did not use halo as a last resort.

2. no in your last post you said you have played every single deadspace game. Which i find interesting because even in deadspace one there were plenty of times were i was flanked by a slasher or set up to think i wasn't being flanked by one.

not to mention dead space 2 has "the pack" which are infected children that hunt in packs. Along with the stalkers.

your lying.

and a wiki isn't an official source unless it is highly maintained and source to the bone like the fallout wiki. which actually has interviews with the devs and everything.

4. you do understand that the main point of this is to talk about who is more effective as a parasite; which would be the necromorphs. using something subjective as fear isn't going to get you anywhere.

  • 10.26.2011 12:09 PM PDT

I choose the name Spartan1337 when I couldn't think of anything better, not much else to say really... :/


Posted by: grey101
Are you serious?


Yes, think of it this way Necromorphs have only assimilated Humans.
The Flood have assimilated:
Humans
Elites
Brutes
and probably alot more.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: Spartan1337

Posted by: grey101
Are you serious?


Yes, think of it this way Necromorphs have only assimilated Humans.
The Flood have assimilated:
Humans
Elites
Brutes
and probably alot more.


now you are being an idiot.

clearly the necromorphs must have been an issue to an alien races since aliens built the markers and put the genetic coding on there as a warning. not to mention that we have not seen aliens in deadspace other than the necromorphs.


That was the most idiotic retort to date.

  • 10.28.2011 11:22 AM PDT

In regards to novels and "canon". I will pick and choose which ones to support as I damn well please. Cryptum and Glasslands are irrelevant as far as I'm concerned.

Don't like that? Boo hoo.

Sure they're "canon" but that doesn't mean I have to support them, their existence, or the continued careers of their respective writers.

Posted by: grey101
The halo affect was far from the "last resort" which means you have done ever single other option. They did not try to reconcile with the humans and just ask for a cure, they did not abandon the mantle and just kill the flood, they did not fight in full force.
Therefore they did not use halo as a last resort.


Ahem, the games themselves beg to differ there sir.

As quoted by 343 Guilty Spark, Monitor of Installation 04 in the final level of Halo 2:
"Weapons of last resort. Built by the Forerunners to eliminate potential Flood hosts, thereby rendering the Parasite harmless." - To the Arbiter about Halo.

"After exhausting every other strategic option, my creators activated the rings. They, and all additional sentient life within three radii of the galactic center, died, as planned. Would you like to see the relevant data?" - To the Arbiter.

He quite clearly mentioned "last resort".



In regards to the OP, tough fight but I'd give the overall advantage to the Flood. The Necros take longer to create combat effective forms ad the subject must be dead beforehand, plus usually require an Infector for the full transformation. Flood on the other hand either a single infection form can do the job in seconds, or airborne spores can be inhaled and the victim need not be dead.

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  • 10.28.2011 12:35 PM PDT


Posted by: Astartes Marine
Posted by: grey101
The halo affect was far from the "last resort" which means you have done ever single other option. They did not try to reconcile with the humans and just ask for a cure, they did not abandon the mantle and just kill the flood, they did not fight in full force.
Therefore they did not use halo as a last resort.


Ahem, the games themselves beg to differ there sir.

As quoted by 343 Guilty Spark, Monitor of Installation 04 in the final level of Halo 2:
"Weapons of last resort. Built by the Forerunners to eliminate potential Flood hosts, thereby rendering the Parasite harmless." - To the Arbiter about Halo.

"After exhausting every other strategic option, my creators activated the rings. They, and all additional sentient life within three radii of the galactic center, died, as planned. Would you like to see the relevant data?" - To the Arbiter.

He quite clearly mentioned "last resort".



In regards to the OP, tough fight but I'd give the overall advantage to the Flood. The Necros take longer to create combat effective forms ad the subject must be dead beforehand, plus usually require an Infector for the full transformation. Flood on the other hand either a single infection form can do the job in seconds, or airborne spores can be inhaled and the victim need not be dead.


Also: "Know that a thousand other plans were tried and failed"

--Didact.

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