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Subject: John's new appearance in Halo 4

Halo 4 will be a great relief after 2 years of REACH.

  • 10.24.2011 7:56 AM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

There`s a long time `till Halo 4. It will change.

Besides, you don`t even see anything more than the hands for 99% of the game.

  • 10.24.2011 8:04 AM PDT

I love the old look of Chief, but I am open to change as well. That being said I don't love the new look of the chief. Nothing wrong with change I just don't prefer the new look. It will probably change anyways, I mean they have plenty of time to get chief right...

  • 10.24.2011 10:05 AM PDT

I'm not a fan at all of the new chief look. However, you guys have to understand that the halo 4 trailer was made before 343 really had a DEV Team. They most likely outsourced the project so they could get it out in time for E3.

Think about it: the Frigates have looked pretty much the same since their introduction in 2. But the "frigate" in the trailer looks nothing like a frigate. It doesn't even look like the ass end of one. This makes me believe that there were no game assets to use for the trailer.

This said, I'm pretty convinced that we will see just a slightly updated iteration of the Chief in Halo 4. Like the change from 2 to 3 (Gauntlets). Something insignificant like that.

  • 10.24.2011 10:19 AM PDT
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Posted by: Fatal Factor
New game, new john, new look.


But it makes no sense. He went in the tube with different armor. This is a bad omen.

  • 10.24.2011 12:15 PM PDT

Don't -blam!- with Kerser!

Posted by: Ruby of the Blue
He needed a new look. The old one was outdated.

You don't like it because it's different.


What, are you dumb. That is the reason everyone is sooking, because it is different. Why it is different, I have no idea. Personally I think it looks horrible, ugly and not like Master Chief. I would rather him wear GUNGNIR! OR MILITARY POLICE!

"He needed a new look. The old one was outdated."

That is the single most stupid thing I have ever read on the Internet. That is fact!

Goodbye. (And by that I mean, don't bother quoting me because you aren't getting a reply, you are not worthy of quoting anyone with having said that outrages comment).

  • 10.24.2011 12:38 PM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.


Posted by: lime013

Posted by: Fatal Factor
New game, new john, new look.


But it makes no sense. He went in the tube with different armor. This is a bad omen.


1) It's a non-canonical CGI trailer.

2) It's confirmed that what we saw is NOT the final aesthetic for John in Halo 4.

3) Frankie has said that any and all changes will have an explanation.

Honestly, it's like you people want to be upset and want to see 343 fail.

I didn't see you complaining when Bungie changed the Arbiter's appearance from Halo 2 to 3, where he suddenly changed his armour's colour, grew a flashlight on his shoulder and some mandible guards. Portions of John's armour were changed too in Halo 3 without explanation, at least we know that Halo 4 will have an explanation for any changes.

So to all you complainers, shut up and wait until we see an updated model.

  • 10.24.2011 12:53 PM PDT

Don't -blam!- with Kerser!

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Posted by: lime013

Posted by: Fatal Factor
New game, new john, new look.


But it makes no sense. He went in the tube with different armor. This is a bad omen.


1) It's a non-canonical CGI trailer.

2) It's confirmed that what we saw is NOT the final aesthetic for John in Halo 4.

3) Frankie has said that any and all changes will have an explanation.

Honestly, it's like you people want to be upset and want to see 343 fail.

I didn't see you complaining when Bungie changed the Arbiter's appearance from Halo 2 to 3, where he suddenly changed his armour's colour, grew a flashlight on his shoulder and some mandible guards. Portions of John's armour were changed too in Halo 3 without explanation, at least we know that Halo 4 will have an explanation for any changes.

So to all you complainers, shut up and wait until we see an updated model.


Your coup intimidates me. Also, quoted for truth.

  • 10.24.2011 1:08 PM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Posted by: SteroidKloud
Your coup intimidates me.


It damn well should! ;)

  • 10.24.2011 1:17 PM PDT

Isaiah. M

"Man is lucky to be ignorant, for if he new the truth it would either destroy him or drive him mad."

I myself like the new chiefs look, now dont get me wrong, the old chiefs battle hardened veterean look really appealed to me, but by no means do I think the new chief is "absurd" in any way.

If you think about it the chief most halo fans are used to is a warrior in power armor, super human attributes, and a super smart AI named cortana thats the main gist of it.


This new chief is open to a whole plethora of new accessories, equipemant, and gadgets of all kinds. Thats the way I see it anyway.
Posted by: I Em I Raptor
According to 343, John's smooth, dented, and scarred armor wasn't good enough, and I fail to see why. John's look was absolutely perfect for an epic hero in my opinion. Smooth, not too bulky, nothing huge, no missiles built in, just a simple armor suit, and a faceless warrior where you built the character, perfect.

Now the armor is all rigid and full of angles. What in the? Why would they do this? Now he looks more like something out of a piece of anime, this is absurd!

No, I'm not afraid of change, but in this case - If it ain't broke, don't fix it - really screams in Freddy's face.

  • 10.24.2011 1:32 PM PDT

Instead of crying wolf, let's wait until the game is close to being released then we can see how master chief is demonstrated and make our judgments from there.

  • 10.24.2011 4:39 PM PDT

Stating his opinion as fact. What an idiot. Characters change as new tech opens up and more detail can be put into character models. Master chief hasnt changed, just his armor. There is nothing wrong with giving him a fresh paint job every now and then. It doesnt have to agree with story or cannon. It just needs to look like a modern title. Imagine if chief still looked like he did in CE. He would look rediculous now. Back then he looked like a badass, and now chiefs appearance has changed to make him still BAD ASS. Thats all that matters.

  • 10.24.2011 4:56 PM PDT


Posted by: Backfjre

Posted by: Ruby of the Blue
He needed a new look. The old one was outdated.


Your literally -540 years wrong...


You are a troll. You know what he meant. Nobody likes a douche

  • 10.24.2011 4:59 PM PDT

Swag punks, fu­­ck off!


Posted by: Fatal Factor
New game, new john, new look.
= dumb.

  • 10.24.2011 5:13 PM PDT

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I'm not big on his new look.

  • 10.24.2011 9:15 PM PDT

Rawr


Posted by: ROBERTO jh
"The Master Chief you saw in the announcement trailer was not the final iteration of the Chief."

-Frankie (paraphrased)


Just goes to show how impressionable trailers are when it comes to the consumers. If this indeed wasn't the final iteration, why show it? A simple reveal in the style that Reach had would have been perfect. Just enough to entice the audience and leave them wanting more. In all honesty, the reveal trailer left a lot of questionable impressions...

  • 10.24.2011 10:14 PM PDT
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Popping Grunt heads since 96'.

You forgot this is just a trailer, there are gonna be massive changes to his armour alone the journey to the release of Halo 4, don't worry.

  • 10.24.2011 11:03 PM PDT

Quod Erat Demonstrandum.

If you're interested in Halo's music, check this out.

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Speaking of chuckles, let's all lol at IonicPaul, who makes friends with bugs to make up for his lack of human contact.

Posted by: RC Clone
He needs his crouch plate back.

Chief: "I need a codpiece."
New sidekick: "Right this way."

  • 10.24.2011 11:58 PM PDT

I don't mind change i mean look at Halo CE chief compared to H3 chief as long as they don't completely change it im ok with it.

  • 10.25.2011 12:24 AM PDT



cheif has always changed with each game. He looks different in Halo CE, Halo 2 and Halo 3. Compare the Halo CE Armor to Halo 3, the difference is pretty big. So changing it again isn't really a n outrage

Posted by: I Em I Raptor
According to 343, John's smooth, dented, and scarred armor wasn't good enough, and I fail to see why. John's look was absolutely perfect for an epic hero in my opinion. Smooth, not too bulky, nothing huge, no missiles built in, just a simple armor suit, and a faceless warrior where you built the character, perfect.

Now the armor is all rigid and full of angles. What in the? Why would they do this? Now he looks more like something out of a piece of anime, this is absurd!

No, I'm not afraid of change, but in this case - If it ain't broke, don't fix it - really screams in Freddy's face.

  • 10.25.2011 5:38 AM PDT
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Deva Path


Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: Pleasuremax


cheif has always changed with each game. He looks different in Halo CE, Halo 2 and Halo 3. Compare the Halo CE Armor to Halo 3, the difference is pretty big. So changing it again isn't really a n outrage

Posted by: I Em I Raptor
According to 343, John's smooth, dented, and scarred armor wasn't good enough, and I fail to see why. John's look was absolutely perfect for an epic hero in my opinion. Smooth, not too bulky, nothing huge, no missiles built in, just a simple armor suit, and a faceless warrior where you built the character, perfect.

Now the armor is all rigid and full of angles. What in the? Why would they do this? Now he looks more like something out of a piece of anime, this is absurd!

No, I'm not afraid of change, but in this case - If it ain't broke, don't fix it - really screams in Freddy's face.


New armor and graphical updates.

  • 10.25.2011 6:59 AM PDT


Posted by: ajw34307

Posted by: lime013

Posted by: Fatal Factor
New game, new john, new look.


But it makes no sense. He went in the tube with different armor. This is a bad omen.


1) It's a non-canonical CGI trailer.

2) It's confirmed that what we saw is NOT the final aesthetic for John in Halo 4.

3) Frankie has said that any and all changes will have an explanation.

Honestly, it's like you people want to be upset and want to see 343 fail.

I didn't see you complaining when Bungie changed the Arbiter's appearance from Halo 2 to 3, where he suddenly changed his armour's colour, grew a flashlight on his shoulder and some mandible guards. Portions of John's armour were changed too in Halo 3 without explanation, at least we know that Halo 4 will have an explanation for any changes.

So to all you complainers, shut up and wait until we see an updated model.


Some people here should read this well.
Was there an explanation for the changes in Chief's armor (handplates for instance) from H2 to H3? No.
Was there an explanation for the changes in Arby's armor between H2 and H3? No.
And that was just a 3 week gap people.

Also: was there an explanation for the Marines' armor changing during that time?
Was there an explanation for the Hog changing? Or the Banshees? Or Ghosts? Or Cortana. For Truth's and Miranda's voices being different?

No.

Besides: 343i has already stated numerous times that trailer was not made by them and Chief will look different. Same as with the Bubble Shield idea between the Starry Night trailer and Halo 3...

  • 10.25.2011 11:14 AM PDT

Who is to say the chief hadn't left the chamber and then went back to sleep.

Maybe he got hungry, woke up, made a sandwich, started to walk back to the chamber, saw some new armor and said, "Hey I just saved all sentient life in the Galaxy: Time for some new duds".
****Cue the Ke$ha music, trying on clothes montage*****
Then chief settles on one he likes and goes back to sleep.

  • 10.25.2011 11:22 AM PDT


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Posted by: SteroidKloud
Your coup intimidates me.


It damn well should! ;)


Thank you Alex, for keeping order.

  • 10.25.2011 12:42 PM PDT

are you sped, they said it themselves, thats not anything like johns gonna look like PLUS its the teaser trailer

  • 10.25.2011 6:06 PM PDT

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