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Subject: What do you think will be the new weapons in Halo 4?

gamertag : firedune22

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grey, we know almost nothing about this game. For you to say that we are even going to be fighting forerunners themselves is ridiculoso. More likely is that we'll see them blurred out in a cutscene with the chief waking up, and then falling back into unconciousness. Now i'm just speculating, but it seem logical considering that the need to keep some air of secrecy and mystery regarding the forerunners themselves.
Getting back on topic.
Personally, I think it would be kind of cool to see some more needler weaponry. We got a needler DMR already, and a needler AA gun. Perhaps a Needler shotgun would be in order?
I know I like my enemies extra-splodey after they die.
I also agree with the suggestion of a forerunner DMR of sorts. I guess that it would fire in one shot like a DMR and the shot would last for a slightly longer time than a BR burst, being a beam weapon. It could be stronger than a DMR/BR, but take longer to fire each shot to make up for it (lower ROF), and have a lower overall "ammo" count. There would be no reload, but an overheat, a la sentinal beam. This could be a balanced sandbox element, as you have 3 balanced Rifles. One overall well rounded human weapon, one forerunner version that is more powerful, but has a lower ROF, and a covenant verson with a higher ROF, but slightly lower damage. Oh, and the forerunner DMR would fire bright blue laser shots so that it stands out more.

  • 10.26.2011 4:23 PM PDT
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  • 10.26.2011 4:33 PM PDT
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We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: firedune
grey, we know almost nothing about this game. For you to say that we are even going to be fighting forerunners themselves is ridiculoso. More likely is that we'll see them blurred out in a cutscene with the chief waking up, and then falling back into unconciousness. Now i'm just speculating, but it seem logical considering that the need to keep some air of secrecy and mystery regarding the forerunners themselves.
Getting back on topic.
Personally, I think it would be kind of cool to see some more needler weaponry. We got a needler DMR already, and a needler AA gun. Perhaps a Needler shotgun would be in order?
I know I like my enemies extra-splodey after they die.
I also agree with the suggestion of a forerunner DMR of sorts. I guess that it would fire in one shot like a DMR and the shot would last for a slightly longer time than a BR burst, being a beam weapon. It could be stronger than a DMR/BR, but take longer to fire each shot to make up for it (lower ROF), and have a lower overall "ammo" count. There would be no reload, but an overheat, a la sentinal beam. This could be a balanced sandbox element, as you have 3 balanced Rifles. One overall well rounded human weapon, one forerunner version that is more powerful, but has a lower ROF, and a covenant verson with a higher ROF, but slightly lower damage. Oh, and the forerunner DMR would fire bright blue laser shots so that it stands out more.


First off the forerunners have no reason to fight humans, and i gave examples of how chief would be at a massive disadvantage if he were to fight a forerunner. I do not believe we will fight forerunners and i was mainly talking about forerunner machines.

This entire trilogy will be focused on the forerunner and human relationship; along with this ancient evil we thing is the timeless one. There are no more mystery's in the area if you are updated.

Why would the forerunners have anything like a DMR? why would covenant weapons be in the campaign unless they were on the dawn?

  • 10.26.2011 4:45 PM PDT


Posted by: grey101
This entire trilogy will be focused on the forerunner and human relationship; along with this ancient evil we thing is the timeless one. There are no more mystery's in the area if you are updated.


Look at those sales spin round and round down the toilet...

What you just said is like having a Zelda game where the only thing you do is talk to the Great Deku Tree while he recites fairy tails.

Basically, your idea of a plot is NOT going to do an entire trilogy of three games, all with their own characters, storylines, twists, gameplay and such.

[Edited on 10.26.2011 5:10 PM PDT]

  • 10.26.2011 5:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


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Posted by: grey101
This entire trilogy will be focused on the forerunner and human relationship; along with this ancient evil we thing is the timeless one. There are no more mystery's in the area if you are updated.


Look at those sales spin round and round down the toilet...

What you just said is like having a Zelda game where the only thing you do is talk to the Great Deku Tree while he recites fairy tails.


your over exaggerating and the only person on this entire forum that thinks in that matter. The most recent book "confirms" that the covenant is disbanded and everybody is far too busy.

  • 10.26.2011 5:10 PM PDT


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: Ruby of the Blue

Posted by: grey101
This entire trilogy will be focused on the forerunner and human relationship; along with this ancient evil we thing is the timeless one. There are no more mystery's in the area if you are updated.


Look at those sales spin round and round down the toilet...

What you just said is like having a Zelda game where the only thing you do is talk to the Great Deku Tree while he recites fairy tails.


your over exaggerating and the only person on this entire forum that thinks in that matter. The most recent book "confirms" that the covenant is disbanded and everybody is far too busy.


k

I just can't wait to see your thread on how Halo 4 makes no sense and is an abomination. I'll be looking out for it.

  • 10.26.2011 5:30 PM PDT

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We need a boat or a forunner vehiecles or lazer gun

  • 10.26.2011 5:32 PM PDT

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Posted by: SteroidKloud
Posted by: grey101

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That is a pure opinion and since you are treating it as a fact i am going to say bullshirt.

No. You assumed I was treating it as fact. As a matter of fact it was an opinion.

The laser was overpowered

Opinion, and No.

pistol damn near worthless

Worthless, but not useless. It required skill. Which you obviously didn't have because you think it is worthless

the AR took a full clip to kill anything

Move in on your target and beat them to death with a melee. It wasn't intended as an all rounder weapon like the BR. Only useful in close - medium-close range. One of my most used weapons

the BR dominated online play

I never really got why everyone says this. I can out match a BR wielding opponent with my AR any day.

Care for a demonstration?

most weapons didn't do justice unless you used two of them.

Why else would duel wielding be implemented?

Can i get proof for anything you are saying? like really even though people don't like majority of what i say i always have something to back me up and i really haven't been wrong since i don't say much.

What? I said "I will bet you anything" which obviously meant that I was guessing/assuming. There is no proof. It is as if I was saying "I think it will be tails" on a coin flip.

i don't say much.

Umm... What?

i feel like they should be scattered or really low in number if they are going to be in every level

It wouldn't be realistic, so either there is human weapons in the first level(s) or they are in almost every level,

Since i see no reason for us to be using inferior human weapons in a forerunner dominated game if not trilogy.

So you are saying, there will be a forerunner armoury stationed on the "thing" Master Chief lands on? Or there is a random pile of forerunner tech and weapons laying around? Who said He even stays on that thing for more than 2 levels?

forerunner dominated game if not trilogy.

Oh, yes. I remember 343 said that this game is "Forerunner dominated".

/sarcasm

Just because there is a Forerunner planet/thing it doesn't mean the game/series is Foreunner dominated. If we, for example, got a trailer of the Ark for Halo 3 you wouldn't automatically assume it is Forerunner dominated (Not just Forerunner beings but also tech) based.

Not to mention the covenant does not exist anymore and there is no logical reason for any of "their" tech to be in the game since it was forerunner tech

The Covenant still exists (Not as a powerful or even worthy threat). You know this.

This doesn't mean that Sangheili won't make an appearance or even the Kig-yar. (Why the hell would Unggoy make an appearance, that is just not cool, and would make no sense what so ever)

When other people say "Covenant" I think they mean the Elites, Grunts or whatever. They don't necessarily mean the actual "Covenant". Example "I just killed a Covenant" instead of "I just killed one of the Covenant".



1. I am pretty sure i wouldn't be the only one to interpret that as you stating a "fact". you gave no indication.

2. It was overpowered hence you hardly seeing it in halo reach and it being powered down.

In halo 3 it was listed as an anti-vehicle weapon be it was an anti everything weapon. seriously if the other team happened to get two lasers for whatever reason that could increase the kill gap since it kills everything in one shot.

The you have the Lag which keeps things alive that should be dead and vice versa. The halo Reach laser is balanced.

3. um in long range combat the BR is going to beat the pistol. hence it being "worthless". you aren't going to kill somebody with full shields that is shooting back at you from the laser spawn in on high ground with a BR using a pistol from the beach hit for hit.

And there is no way you could imply skill since i have longed stopped playing halo 3 and your stats aren't even linked.


4.Which is the point. They don't have the power alone so you have to dual-wield everything to kill. That isn't something you should be supporting, even in halo 2 the weapons were good enough to kill without using two of them. Hence dual wielding to be overkill.

5. No you can't. you are not going to beat somebody with a BR using an AR from across the map regardless if you pace your shots. I would love to see you beat somebody in open combat on a large map that has a BR and you only have an AR.

6.Yes. Mark 6 wouldn't be able to stop any type of true forerunner weaponry so the suit needs to be upgraded somehow. And seeing how this would be the first FPS halo game on a shield-world like planet it is a fact along with common sense we are going to be on that "thing" more than two missions if not the entire game.

Yea, on a forerunner planet that still has forerunners on it (implied frankie) there aren't going to be any forerunner weapons on it whatsoever. The forerunner machines you fight aren't going to drop what they were shooting at you with. nor will you randomly find some "new" weapon like you have in every other FPS halo game.

7. So it wouldn't be realistic for a ship to crash and send everything every where? and the logic of "if it is on one level it has to be on all levels" is childish.

Human weapons are not going to damage any serious forerunner construct. not to mention you would be at a massive disadvantaged if you were fighting some rouge forerunner (whos tech has advanced more in the last 10,000 years) wearing mark 6 and using a pistol(since you have skill).

You are going to need some type of energy/light based weaponry which the humans don't have other than a laser.

8.Um this is going to be a forerunner dominated trilogy hence all this recent knowledge and backstory about the forerunners. Hence the summary of primordiom clearly taking place in halo 4.

So if this trilogy isn't going to have the forerunners heavily involved (which you are incredibly stupid for even suggesting given everything we know about halo 4) what is it going to be about? because last time i checked we aren't going to be going to earth since john is still missing decades later and the game takes place 3-4 years after halo 3 since cortana is near 7.

The covenant has been disbanded and no longer exists.

So please tell me what this trilogy could possibly connect with other than the Forerunner- human relations which we have been getting nudged at the entire time.

9. It was clearly shown in halo 3 that the covenant is over. Truth is dead along with the other higher ups, the elites left which leaves grunts,jackals,lekgolo, and brutes.


calling the client races of the former covenant; "covenant" after the fact is like calling a black person a slave after slaver has ended.


The.Covenant.does.not.exist.


You didn't put my quotes in so I don't know which ones you replied to. Sorry if it seems unfitted.

1. If you say so.

2. Your opinion. I disagree with you.

3. I wasn't comparing the pistol to the BR was I? Also my account is glitched, my stats disappeared yesterday.

4. You don't need to dual wield for them to be useful. They where all mildly useful whilst single wielding. When you dueld wield it turns from mildly useful to very useful (In it's own specific use).

5. What do you mean "No you can't" that is just wild assumption . You wouldn't know. You have never played Halo 3 with me before.

6. No. Franky said "Yeh, It looks very Forerunner". Where is your proof to say otherwise?

The forerunner machines you fight

*Sigh*. Your assumption. Not fact or common sense. Possible but not fact.

Also, since when does a machine hold a weapon? They would be built in. It would be a weakness for machines to hold weapons.

7. "Childish"? Don't make me laugh. So you are saying that every weapon will be scattered around the whole game and still be in working condition? From a huge crash. From one ship? Weapons won't just fly out randomly 10+ kilometers. Also who said the entire game will be on that "Thing" anyway. So as I said before "Either they are on the first level(s) or on almost every level.

8. this is going to be a forerunner dominated trilogy hence all this recent knowledge and backstory about the forerunners. Hence the summary of primordiom clearly taking place in halo 4.

So if this trilogy isn't going to have the forerunners heavily involved (which you are incredibly stupid for even suggesting given everything we know about halo 4) what is it going to be about? because last time i checked we aren't going to be going to earth since john is still missing decades later and the game takes place 3-4 years after halo 3 since cortana is near 7.


I didn't say that there weren't going to be any Forerunners. I was "saying" that you shouldn't 100% assume the game is FORERUNNER, FORERUNNER, FORERUNNER

9. Go watch Halo legends... Also read the comics... Also Evolutions "The Return" I'm pretty sure that's the one.


Still waiting for someone to reply...

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