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Posted by: OrderedComa
What defines a hero are his goals, not how difficult his enemies are to defeat >_>
No, being heroic is standing up in the face of impossible odds and having the courage to face him, Master Chief has never really been challenged by anything, thus he is not a real hero, and it makes for better story-telling.
Posted by: OrderedComa
Hell, a truly evil character could face all that you described above, and by what seems to be your definition that villain would be a hero!
I don't care what you think, or how you twist my words, just keep on, it really doesn't phase me.
Posted by: OrderedComa
This honestly makes me think you don't really know what a hero is :/
This honestly makes me think you think I actually care what you think, and that you don't really know what good storytelling is.
Posted by: OrderedComa
Master Chief is a truly heroic character, I don't get how you can't see or acknowledge that!
Quit trying to pass off your opinion as fact, that is your biggest problem, you think the universe revolves around you and your views, news flash; not everybody holds the same beliefs as you.
Posted by: OrderedComa
A hero doesn't care about himself in comparison to others, he strives for goals far larger than himself (saving the universe, saving his race, saving his planet, protecting his leader, protecting innocents around him), and is willing to give it all to achieve those goals, even if it means he has to die in the process.
And now you shift tracks and decide to agree with me all of a sudden? What are you on?
Posted by: OrderedComa
What you described may be part of what a hero has to overcome and what makes someone heroic, but that alone does not make a man a hero.
her·o·ism [her-oh-iz-uhm] noun ~ the qualities or attributes of a hero or heroine: He showed great heroism in battle.
Posted by: OrderedComaMaster Chief is right up there with the likes of King Arthur, Batman, Spider-Man, Aragorn, Gandalf, Luke Skywalker, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Harry Potter, and any other fictional hero you can think of!
How about, no.
1. Being a hero does NOT involve impossible odds; it involves courageous actions. Impossible odds make for better storytelling, but that is not what constitutes "heroism".
2. He's not twisting your words, it's merely a matter of perspective. Seeing as though you didn't specify who you were talking about, they are in the right context.
3. Good storytelling and heroism are two different things. Please refer to Point 1.
4. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and what they stated was their opinion. What you are failing to acknowledge is the difference between good storytelling and actual heroism, which is what your whole argument is based on in the first place.
5. The poster is agreeing with you because that is the general preconception of heroes.
6. Great, you can use Google to find a definition and one context in which it may be used. Care to find more?