- Old Salty27
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Oh good grief, what did I just walk into. I'll admit I skimmed through some of the book, some parts were difficult to get into; like the human-elite sub plot, every other major plot point made me think WTF? I should have read the book more thoroughly before going on a rant about it and for that I'm sorry, but the main points about the story remain; Paragnosky and ONI have gone off the rails, the Spartan programs dark secrets are out of the bag, Paragnosky's gunning for Halsey, but if Halsey is going to be made a scapegoat for ONI's misdeads she's bringing the rest of ONI down with her.
The Elites are turning on each other, but attaching humanity is somewhat on the back burner. The shield world has been brought out of slip-space way too easily and ONI has suddenly found itself with an over abundance of forerunner tech at it's disposal even before that event. ONI's planning a new generation of spartans, but the book make no mention of S-3 Gamma Company or even hints at the potential disaster they could become when their meds run out that negate the side effects of the illegal augmentations Kurt gave them.
If anything were to re-ignite hostilities between humans and the former members of the covenant it would be a bunch of un-checked vengeful and unhinged super soldiers that despite their physical size and training are still underneath it all traumatized 12 year old children. Instead we are given a story that is just poorly thought out and seems to have everyone trying to betray each other and act out of character just for the sake of silly plot twists and drama for the sake of drama. The whole book wasted any dangling plot threads that Ghosts of Onyx set up that if followed would have arguably made a better and more believable story.
So was I wrong to go on a super rant after merely skimming through the book? Yes. But calling me an uber troll that is simply pulling stuff out of my butt is a bit much.
Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Posted by: Old Salty27
To make things even more unbelievable Paragnosky has Halsey stand trial publicly for her creation of the Spartans and then Halsey publicly outs her for the authorization of the Spartan-2 and 3 Project leading to everyone wanting to dismantle ONI. During all of this the remaining Spartans are given information on their identities and families, some decide to reunite with their long lost love ones. Having thought their children died long ago, these poor people find out their kids are very much alive, the children they thought they lost were clones and their real children were turned into super soldiers.............it doesn't go well. The book ends with Humanity heading towards civil war and Paragnosky planning on making Orion style Spartans.
I just finished the book. Whatever respect I thought I held for you as an honest person with an opinion just got blown out the window. To any and all people reading this right now, know he's full of utter bull -blam!-.
Halsey is taken from the Dyson Sphere--now called Trevelyan, in honer of Kurt's real last name--by Naomi, Mal, Vaz and Osman aboard the Port Stanely .
She is taken aboard the ship, and given over to Parangosky, who has a research station orbiting Installation 03.
Parangosky then promptly tells her she died on Reach, and that is all the public will know of her. She will not execute Halsey because she's too valuable, (she'll likely divert her to the Infinity project) but her life is effectively screwed; she is, for all intents and purposes, Parangosky's -blam!-.
However, no public trial is held--I'm not even sure there is a trial, just Parangosky getting her words in--the public is not made aware of the Spartans' true origins, the only thing even remotely resembling the Spartans having contact with their families is Parangosky allowing them to read their files if they so wished, nobody makes an attempt to kill the Arbiter at all, and in fact the ending suggests that the Arbiter took out Telcam (left on a cliffhanger, so unknown).
And in fact, humanity is no closer to a civil war now then they were during the Insurrection (as there is still dissident humans). The attempts to dismantle the growing insurgency on the planet Venezia (a world left behind by the UNSC during the Covenant war, already known before hand to house terrorist and Rebel sympathizers) are being operated by Mal, Vaz, and an ONI Spook called Spenser, with Osman, BB, and Naomi providing support to Telcam.
UNSC is not making an attempt to disband ONI, there is no public out cry for such an act, and nobody has found out about Kilo-Five's mission to kill the Arbiter yet either, so that's good.
Really the only thing OP got right was that there is a Spartan 4 program already in the works, but instead using adult volunteers. The Spartan 4s are attatched to the UNSC Infinity project.
Everything else was utter horse -blam!- to such an Nth degree I can't fathom how big of a bull -blam!- spew-fest it was. I actually had to read what I quoted three times to re-insure myself over and over again that what OP wrote was actually what he wrote.
Universe forum, you just got trolled. hard