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@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

You're either A) looking at only the games, or B) didn't read in between the lines; he is outwardly stoic, yes, but you cannot judge a book by its cover.

And who is to say that 343i won't devolope him? (something they already said they will do).


1. You've obviously never seen any of my past comments about me liking the book Chief. However, the book Chief still isn't that great of a character. But I suppose grunting the occasional one-liner is stoic.

2. When did I ever say 343 wouldn't characterize him better?

  • 10.30.2011 3:57 PM PDT

Its going to be Chief coming across some remaining Forerunners. Chief teams up with them and they end up fighting to the pre-cursors.

  • 10.30.2011 4:22 PM PDT

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I'm not going to judge it until there is more information available. It would be unkind to 343, and myself, to do otherwise.

  • 10.30.2011 4:24 PM PDT


Posted by: wcd45
First off he has no sex drive so the idea of him leaving with a woman is kind of silly, unless you count Cortana, but she'll be rampant soon enoough.

Secondly, storywise he wouldn't be allowed to ride off into the sunset, in the end he's a soldier who follows orders and there's no way the UNSC is going to let it's greatest soldier retire. Not unless he was severly injured, which would suck even more as an ending.

Let him die in a glorious final battle.

I am sorry you apparently didn't get what I was doing. That was meant as more of a joke. He clearly is not going to ride off into the sunset on a horse. I was trying to be slightly funny.

  • 10.30.2011 7:35 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: MWLB4244
After all of the time we spent with him and the emotional connection the player develops with him it would be so stupid to kill him.


What emotional attachment? He's got the personality of a brick. The only people who love the Chief so much are fanboys and nobody should care what they think.

Did you watch the final Bungie Vidoc or any of the 343i Halo 4 videos?
Apparently a lot of people really do care about him. But I guess according to you all the employees at Bungie and 343i and the vast majority of Halo fans are just fanboys and we shouldn't care what they think.

[Edited on 10.30.2011 7:39 PM PDT]

  • 10.30.2011 7:39 PM PDT

For Carnage Apply Within - We played Marathon before Marathon was cool!

Keep it authentic...

The only good aspect of Halo is Bungie, so without them the following Halo's will be terrible.

  • 10.30.2011 7:40 PM PDT


Posted by: gruntyII7
The only good aspect of Halo is Bungie, so without them the following Halo's will be terrible.


Halo: Reach.

  • 10.30.2011 7:44 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: MWLB4244
Apparently a lot of people really do care about him. But I guess according to you all the employees at Bungie and 343i and the vast majority of Halo fans are just fanboys and we shouldn't care what they think.


And I find those people pretty sad. If Chief does die, I imagine I'll hear about people crying about his death too. I'll only say "Good riddance, the character of Chief finally has closure."

  • 10.30.2011 7:44 PM PDT

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Posted by: wcd45

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Posted by: wcd45
Was I the only one who was happier with the non legendary ending of Halo 3? You now the one where the chief went down fighting, and got a beatiful funeral and memorial on the outskirts of New Mombassa.

OT as long as they are good games I won't mind BUT the chief has to die in the end.

No way. You can't kill the Chief. He is invincible.

So when the war is over the chief is gonna do what teach karate at the local Y? No, he is a warrior and should die in battle.

actualy i agree with this guy.
In Chiefs case dying from disease or from age would be just an insult. He needs to die in battle.

Who says the Chief ever has to die? Let him finish the Trilogy by beating the enemy and riding of into the sunset with a beautiful woman.

After all of the time we spent with him and the emotional connection the player develops with him it would be so stupid to kill him.


And that woman shall be Cortana in a human form due to the miracles of precursor tech.
The end

  • 10.30.2011 7:47 PM PDT


Posted by: risay_117
And that woman shall be Cortana in a human form
The end


I had a strange dream about that before Halo 3 came out.

  • 10.30.2011 7:48 PM PDT

Vengeance only leads to an ongoing cycle of hatred.

Well, it's hard to form an opinion since we have seen so little of Halo 4 (let alone, the whole trilogy). But, I will say this: The Reclaimer Trilogy has potential. 343 can really craft something beautifully and make this new series even better than the original trilogy. However, Reach had potential too...Look what happened. It can easily be great, but it can easily fail.

  • 10.30.2011 7:56 PM PDT

I stopped watching the Halo 4 trailer when Master Chief got out of his cryotube with a jetpack.

  • 10.30.2011 8:12 PM PDT

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Posted by: Quazi
I stopped watching the Halo 4 trailer when Master Chief got out of his cryotube with a jetpack.


It was not a jetpack it was a zero g booster, comes with all armour to allow in space fighting. Jet pack is something else.

This allows you to move in space. Not fly in atmosphere.

  • 10.30.2011 8:16 PM PDT

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What are your opinions of the upcoming Halos 4,5,and 6?

  • 10.30.2011 8:17 PM PDT


Posted by: wcd45
First off he has no sex drive so the idea of him leaving with a woman is kind of silly, unless you count Cortana, but she'll be rampant soon enoough.

Secondly, storywise he wouldn't be allowed to ride off into the sunset, in the end he's a soldier who follows orders and there's no way the UNSC is going to let it's greatest soldier retire. Not unless he was severly injured, which would suck even more as an ending.

Let him die in a glorious final battle.


Ok, firstly, the Spartans are not necesarily without sex drives. The potential side-effect of one of the augmentations was a REDUCED sex drive, now that could mean that some might have lost it, but it's not definite. Hell some might not have even had that side-effect at all. It was not something that would definitely happen, just a highly likely possibility.

And second, how do you know Cortana is going to be rampant? If anything it seems far more likely to me that she would be in meta-stability rather than rampancy.

So, what? You think he's going to be fighting all the time even when there's nothing to fight? Really I don't particularly care what happens to Chief at the end of the Reclaimer Trilogy. Killing him would not be the right way to end it though, imo, killing off the main character happens all too frequently in stories, so I feel they should come up with something more unique to conclude the story.

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
What emotional attachment? He's got the personality of a brick. The only people who love the Chief so much are fanboys and nobody should care what they think.


Meh, I'd say this a very big case of the "Your Mileage May Vary" Trope. Chief has just as much character in the games as in the books, it's just subtle little things in the way he caries himself in certain situations. It's much like Noble Team, lot of character, just subtle and you have to go through the games many times in order to pick up on it. I wouldn't make such sweeping generalizations about the fans, it's going to make you more enemies than people willing to respect you :/

  • 10.31.2011 8:48 AM PDT
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Posted by: OrderedComa

Posted by: wcd45
First off he has no sex drive so the idea of him leaving with a woman is kind of silly, unless you count Cortana, but she'll be rampant soon enoough.

Secondly, storywise he wouldn't be allowed to ride off into the sunset, in the end he's a soldier who follows orders and there's no way the UNSC is going to let it's greatest soldier retire. Not unless he was severly injured, which would suck even more as an ending.

Let him die in a glorious final battle.


Ok, firstly, the Spartans are not necesarily without sex drives. The potential side-effect of one of the augmentations was a REDUCED sex drive, now that could mean that some might have lost it, but it's not definite. Hell some might not have even had that side-effect at all. It was not something that would definitely happen, just a highly likely possibility.

And second, how do you know Cortana is going to be rampant? If anything it seems far more likely to me that she would be in meta-stability rather than rampancy.

So, what? You think he's going to be fighting all the time even when there's nothing to fight? Really I don't particularly care what happens to Chief at the end of the Reclaimer Trilogy. Killing him would not be the right way to end it though, imo, killing off the main character happens all too frequently in stories, so I feel they should come up with something more unique to conclude the story.

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
What emotional attachment? He's got the personality of a brick. The only people who love the Chief so much are fanboys and nobody should care what they think.


Meh, I'd say this a very big case of the "Your Mileage May Vary" Trope. Chief has just as much character in the games as in the books, it's just subtle little things in the way he caries himself in certain situations. It's much like Noble Team, lot of character, just subtle and you have to go through the games many times in order to pick up on it. I wouldn't make such sweeping generalizations about the fans, it's going to make you more enemies than people willing to respect you :/

My point was he is a warrior and deserves to die a warrior's death, not killed off by an STD he gets at old age from the woman you want to force on him ;)

  • 10.31.2011 10:08 AM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

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Posted by: AlphaMad kid
Personally i think they should stop at four, It seems there just dragging out the whole master chief story. Don't get me wrong i like master chief and all, but i think they should focus on other parts of the Halo universe.


It's been four years since we had a game featuring the chief. It's time for his return.

He doesn't need a return. It's just that his return may also be the return of Halo to the very forefront of shooters as well as millions for Microsoft. That's the reason it's being done.

  • 10.31.2011 10:15 AM PDT

Given that this trilogy will have damn near everything to do with what we've learned in Halo Cryptum and surely what happens in the rest of the forerunner trilogy, that means there is still a whole ton they can do in these three games with even considering it "milking".

If you for some reason think there isn't enough stuff left in the Halo universe for them to explore, then you clearly have not read cryptum

  • 10.31.2011 10:24 AM PDT


Posted by: wcd45

Posted by: OrderedComa

Posted by: wcd45
First off he has no sex drive so the idea of him leaving with a woman is kind of silly, unless you count Cortana, but she'll be rampant soon enoough.

Secondly, storywise he wouldn't be allowed to ride off into the sunset, in the end he's a soldier who follows orders and there's no way the UNSC is going to let it's greatest soldier retire. Not unless he was severly injured, which would suck even more as an ending.

Let him die in a glorious final battle.


Ok, firstly, the Spartans are not necesarily without sex drives. The potential side-effect of one of the augmentations was a REDUCED sex drive, now that could mean that some might have lost it, but it's not definite. Hell some might not have even had that side-effect at all. It was not something that would definitely happen, just a highly likely possibility.

And second, how do you know Cortana is going to be rampant? If anything it seems far more likely to me that she would be in meta-stability rather than rampancy.

So, what? You think he's going to be fighting all the time even when there's nothing to fight? Really I don't particularly care what happens to Chief at the end of the Reclaimer Trilogy. Killing him would not be the right way to end it though, imo, killing off the main character happens all too frequently in stories, so I feel they should come up with something more unique to conclude the story.


My point was he is a warrior and deserves to die a warrior's death, not killed off by an STD he gets at old age from the woman you want to force on him ;)


What makes you think I'm trying to force a woman on him :P

Feh, I'd be very disappointed in 343i's story telling abilities if they just decided to kill Chief off, as I said, it's a rather overused ending for epic-scale, living legend heroes like Master Chief (especially in Halo itself :/ Almost to the point I feel where killing off characters has kind of lost meaning for me). I'm not saying he should necessarily retire at the end or anything, but I would like a more unique end to the Reclaimer Trilogy than having Chief die. My ideal ending would actually be somewhat similar to the way Halo 3 ended, Chief concluding the story with becoming the sleeping hero of legend much like King Arthur, essentially leaving the world to return one day when it most needs him.

  • 10.31.2011 10:29 AM PDT
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I don't agree OrderedComa, afterall there aren't that many Sci-Fi Games that kill their lead characters, especially those that have carried a series like the Chief has. Noble don't count as they were a one off squad, I suppose you could count Dom, but then Marcus has also been the main focus of Gears.

I would love for you to name some examples bud, because at the moment I'm stumped.

Killing the Chief off would, IMO, be a brave thing to do.

[Edited on 10.31.2011 11:56 AM PDT]

  • 10.31.2011 11:56 AM PDT

It's the prestige that makes the illusion.


Posted by: AlphaMad kid
Personally i think they should stop at four, It seems there just dragging out the whole master chief story. Don't get me wrong i like master chief and all, but i think they should focus on other parts of the Halo universe.


totally true

  • 10.31.2011 12:20 PM PDT


Posted by: wcd45
I don't think they could kill the character that helped revolutionized gameing.

  • 11.01.2011 9:28 AM PDT

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