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Subject: My theory of the UNSC showing up in Halo 4.

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My idea on the UNSC, or at the very least, humans being an enemy somewhere down the line is very probable. As seen from the concept art Trailer, the UNSC at some point is coming into that... thing, and they don't look too freindly either. When you have that many [Dropships?] coming in through a portal, with lots of other human ships, they're looking for a fight.

My idea is that the Chief and Cortana find something, most likely [Forerunner?] that ONI, and several other factions want, and you're not going to let them have it. It's possiblethat the scenario could be like the plot with the [Glasslands Spoilers!] ODSTS realizing what ONI wants an engineer for, and having a change of heart. Spartan 4s are also likely enemies, becase there are many of them [to shoot in the face], and are tough enough to most likely put up as much of a fight as an elite.
whats-her-face (paragnofski's "heir" to ONI) might make for a good villanous leader, as ONI and the insurrection have ample resources and manpower to take down the UNSC and the rest of the covenant. Spartan 4s leading squads of insurrection troops? sounds like a good enemy to me, and this just might be why Glasslands is so strange. John works with the UNSC and the remnants of the covenant fighting Forerunner-enhanced ONI supersoldiers and Insurrectionist troops ove the fate of something secret and incredibly important to the fate of the universe. Sounds like an intersting and good plot for the first Halo game in a new Trilogy...

I think i'm on to something here.

Sorry if this seems conveluded now... it's late

[Edited on 10.31.2011 4:36 PM PDT]

  • 10.31.2011 4:31 PM PDT

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Two words on that: -blam!- no.

  • 10.31.2011 4:33 PM PDT

"Shall we let the Flood consume our holy city? Turn High Charity into another of their wretched hives? No enemy has ever withstood our might. The Flood, too, shall fail."

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Posted by: firedune
My idea on the UNSC, or at the very least, humans being an enemy somewhere down the line is very probable. As seen from the concept art Trailer, the UNSC at some point is coming into that... thing, and they don't look too freindly either. When you have that many [Dropships?] coming in through a portal, with lots of other human ships, they're looking for a fight.

My idea is that the Chief and Cortana find something, most likely [Forerunner?] that ONI, and several other factions want, and you're not going to let them have it. It's possiblethat the scenario could be like the plot with the [Glasslands Spoilers!] ODSTS realizing what ONI wants an engineer for, and having a change of heart. Spartan 4s are also likely enemies, becase there are many of them [to shoot in the face], and are tough enough to most likely put up as much of a fight as an elite.
whats-her-face (paragnofski's "heir" to ONI) might make for a good villanous leader, as ONI and the insurrection have ample resources and manpower to take down the UNSC and the rest of the covenant. Spartan 4s leading squads of insurrection troops? sounds like a good enemy to me, and this just might be why Glasslands is so strange. John works with the UNSC and the remnants of the covenant fighting Forerunner-enhanced ONI supersoldiers and Insurrectionist troops ove the fate of something secret and incredibly important to the fate of the universe. Sounds like an intersting and good plot for the first Halo game in a new Trilogy...

I think i'm on to something here.

Sorry if this seems conveluded now... it's late


Insurrectionist troops can't handle the UNSC, or the remnants of the Covenant. Plus, as seen in Glasslands, Venezia, a top insurrectionist stronghold, consists mainly of seperate groups of insurrectionists, and different covies and humans just trying to coexist together. UNSC or Covenant would tear it apart easily with one Frigate or Cruiser.

Also, we don't know much about S-4s, except for the fact that adults are trained into them, but that's about it.

  • 10.31.2011 9:05 PM PDT

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  • 10.31.2011 10:40 PM PDT

Not in Halo 4 but maybe in 6. I know there will be a 6 because in trailers they talk about a new halo trilogy

  • 11.01.2011 5:58 PM PDT

Hey, now!

This is officially either the greatest or worst thing to ever happen to Star Wars. I'm going with the former.


Posted by: flamedude
I think its a shame that 343i seems to think that the way to sell more books and games is to add MOAR LAZER BEEMZ.

UNSC ships with Forerunner tech.
Spartan-IVs
Mjolnir Mk VI

Can't they just focus on the established canon? There is more than enough material to work with. It's like Stargate SG1.

Mark VI armor is the armor that the Chief uses in Halo 2 and 3. It's not new...

OT: I think that it's inevetible that we'll see the UNSC in some regard in Halo 4. Most likely that test bed, or maybe the Spirit of Fire(Did they ever come back?)

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that any UNSC interaction will be near the end of Halo 4, to sort of hint at where Halo 5 is going.

[Edited on 11.01.2011 6:17 PM PDT]

  • 11.01.2011 6:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: flamedude
I think its a shame that 343i seems to think that the way to sell more books and games is to add MOAR LAZER BEEMZ.

UNSC ships with Forerunner tech.
Spartan-IVs
Mjolnir Mk VI

Can't they just focus on the established canon? There is more than enough material to work with. It's like Stargate SG1.

Mark VI armor is the armor that the Chief uses in Halo 2 and 3. It's not new...

OT: I think that it's inevetible that we'll see the UNSC in some regard in Halo 4. Most likely that test bed, or maybe the Spirit of Fire(Did they ever come back?)

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that any UNSC interaction will be near the end of Halo 4, to sort of hint at where Halo 5 is going.

But what is new is that they added new information. I seem to recall reading that Mjolnir Mk. VI has the ability to upgrade itself.

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Posted by: thebobafettest

Posted by: flamedude
I think its a shame that 343i seems to think that the way to sell more books and games is to add MOAR LAZER BEEMZ.

UNSC ships with Forerunner tech.
Spartan-IVs
Mjolnir Mk VI

Can't they just focus on the established canon? There is more than enough material to work with. It's like Stargate SG1.

Mark VI armor is the armor that the Chief uses in Halo 2 and 3. It's not new...

OT: I think that it's inevetible that we'll see the UNSC in some regard in Halo 4. Most likely that test bed, or maybe the Spirit of Fire(Did they ever come back?)

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that any UNSC interaction will be near the end of Halo 4, to sort of hint at where Halo 5 is going.

But what is new is that they added new information. I seem to recall reading that Mjolnir Mk. VI has the ability to upgrade itself.


no, Mark VI as a Limited ability to repair itself. You have to be exact with the wording with stuff like that.

  • 11.01.2011 6:35 PM PDT

A theory isn't a theory if it's confirmed lol

  • 11.02.2011 6:09 AM PDT

I imagine the UNSC infinity's first big mission is to travel outside the galaxy, locate the ark and ultimately, find Master Chief. The way everyone from the lowest marine to the highest ranking members of ONI regards chief as a hero leads me to believe that that is what the infinity will be doing.

Crewed by Osman, Naomi, Fred, Kelly and Linda.

Five Spartan-IIs, going to get their leader back.

  • 11.02.2011 6:17 AM PDT

Ad Infinitum


Posted by: Papa Chief 6
Who's Parangosky? Someone educate me.

Parangosky is an Admiral within the UNSC Navy, and is head of the Office of Naval Intelligence. She and Halsey hate each other because Halsey somewhat lied to her about the nature of the S-II program. She doesn't like being lied to, and has enough power under her belt to make almost anyone vanish without a trace. Except for Hood, maybe. Even then, she was saying how it would be "unfortunate" if Hood were to be assassinated while he was discussing cease-fire talks with the Arbiter.

In short, she's a very powerful and very old hag.

  • 11.02.2011 6:27 AM PDT


Posted by: BumperJohn 117
A theory isn't a theory if it's confirmed lol

  • 11.02.2011 6:03 PM PDT

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Posted by: BumperJohn 117
A theory isn't a theory if it's confirmed lol


That's concept art fool. CONCEPT. Nice try though lol.

  • 11.02.2011 8:28 PM PDT


Posted by: TallestSpark

Posted by: BumperJohn 117
A theory isn't a theory if it's confirmed lol


That's concept art fool. CONCEPT. Nice try though lol.


Thanks lol

  • 11.02.2011 9:09 PM PDT

Don't -blam!- with Kerser!

Posted by: TallestSpark
*****SPOILER ALERT*****

In Glasslands, they talk about project infinity, which is some top secret ship that's supposedly had Forerunner tech all over it since early in the war.


That is the ship in the Halo 4 Concept art. So that basically confirms the UNSC will be in Halo 4 right?

  • 11.03.2011 3:00 AM PDT


Posted by: SteroidKloud
Posted by: TallestSpark
*****SPOILER ALERT*****

In Glasslands, they talk about project infinity, which is some top secret ship that's supposedly had Forerunner tech all over it since early in the war.


That is the ship in the Halo 4 Concept art. So that basically confirms the UNSC will be in Halo 4 right?


Yes it does. I don't see why it wouldn't.

And do I really have to bring the point out that it was on a big, fat official art board at Halo Fest?

  • 11.03.2011 5:16 AM PDT


Posted by: TallestSpark

Posted by: BumperJohn 117
A theory isn't a theory if it's confirmed lol


That's concept art fool. CONCEPT. Nice try though lol.


Idiot alert.

You know, usually when developing a game, you write the story FIRST before you begin designing things in the game.


It's called CONCEPT art for a reason.
concept/ känsept/
Noun:
1. An abstract idea; a general notion.
2. A plan or intention; a conception.
Synonyms:
notion - idea - thought - intention


Nice try though lol.

[Edited on 11.03.2011 5:22 AM PDT]

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Posted by: TallestSpark

Posted by: BumperJohn 117
A theory isn't a theory if it's confirmed lol


That's concept art fool. CONCEPT. Nice try though lol.


Idiot alert.

You know, usually when developing a game, you write the story FIRST before you begin designing things in the game.


It's called CONCEPT art for a reason.
concept/ känsept/
Noun:
1. An abstract idea; a general notion.
2. A plan or intention; a conception.
Synonyms:
notion - idea - thought - intention


Nice try though lol.



Ok smartass you do understand that concept art does not mean confirmed.

  • 11.03.2011 5:54 AM PDT

yas334229812

from what i see it looks like its still being built, fixed and tuned, new out of the factory but still not got everything it has.

Also the things sticking out of the bottom like needles look to be refueling spots.

Just to say it looks like a whole bunch of high tech machines put together and given a plating to make it look good.

Made on a strict deadline or hurried.

Also if those are like corvettes then we know that the humans have a super-carrier now.

Also it reminds me of the modern space station, a whole bunch of science project things placed in. Not any millitary might more for experimental purpose.

Notice the airlocks look like metal vault doors. Not the things you see in the Reach commercial the slight energy layer to create an airlock.

Also its engines etc are sticking out, if attack by any enemy it could go down quite fast if the enemy can hit it.

i think it has range to factor out the hull weakness and shields. Maybe they stripped a covenant supercarrier engine and place it in this and then improved on it.

  • 11.03.2011 8:48 AM PDT


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: Ruby of the Blue

Posted by: TallestSpark

Posted by: BumperJohn 117
A theory isn't a theory if it's confirmed lol


That's concept art fool. CONCEPT. Nice try though lol.


Idiot alert.

You know, usually when developing a game, you write the story FIRST before you begin designing things in the game.


It's called CONCEPT art for a reason.
concept/ känsept/
Noun:
1. An abstract idea; a general notion.
2. A plan or intention; a conception.
Synonyms:
notion - idea - thought - intention


Nice try though lol.



Ok smartass you do understand that concept art does not mean confirmed.


Ok ignoramus, it does if it was presented to the public at an event about everything Halo. They wouldn't put it up unless it was sure to be in the game.

[Edited on 11.03.2011 2:36 PM PDT]

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Posted by: Ruby of the Blue

Posted by: BumperJohn 117
A theory isn't a theory if it's confirmed lol[/quote]

That's concept art fool. CONCEPT. Nice try though lol.[/quote]

Idiot alert.

You know, usually when developing a game, you write the story FIRST before you begin designing things in the game.


It's called CONCEPT art for a reason.
concept/ känsept/
Noun:
1. An abstract idea; a general notion.
2. A plan or intention; a conception.
Synonyms:
notion - idea - thought - intention


Nice try though lol.[/quote]


Ok smartass you do understand that concept art does not mean confirmed.


Ok ignoramus, it does if it was presented to the public at an event about everything Halo. They wouldn't put it up unless it was sure to be in the game.



Another supporting statement that do not know halo whatsoever.


This was showed to the public and never happened and look it is an actual demo!

Another playable demo that never happened

Halo CE concept art most of which never happened

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL_qZtC0FCE] WOW halo reach concept art that didn't get in


Some halo wars art that NEVER GOT IN


More stuff that we saw before the games that never got in(only the engineer which was 10 years later

[url=]http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=halo+3+concept+art+ &qpvt=halo+3+conept+art+&FORM=AWIR#x0y1596] And just google art of alot of crap we saw before the games that never got in[/url].

See since you haven't been around at all There was ALOT of art we saw and was promoted for halowars,halo 3,halo CE,halo 2,ODST, and halo reach that never made it.

The biggest letdowns were Halo 2 and halo 3. Just because something is promoted does not mean that it is in game, especally if it is still on a drawing board.

  • 11.03.2011 2:49 PM PDT


Posted by: grey101
Another supporting statement that do not know halo whatsoever.


What.


This was showed to the public and never happened and look it is an actual demo!

Epic fail. The only thing that changed between that and the level "New Mombasa" was the level layout.

Another playable demo that never happened

No, but it evolved into the second level "Halo" and the fourth, "Silent Cartographer".

Epic fail.

Halo CE concept art most of which never happened

And the crazy thing is, none of that was shown before the game was released.

Epic fail.

WOW halo reach concept art that didn't get in

Super mega epic fail. Everything shown in that video made it into the game.

Some halo wars art that NEVER GOT IN

Most of it did, or evolved. I'm going to stop you right there.

Just because something is promoted does not mean that it is in game, especally if it is still on a drawing board.


Your argument is void since what you're presenting to me are only small concepts of many that do not affect the entire game.

The UNSC being in the Reclaimer Trilogy does affect the entire game and how it is played and how it feels in the long run, so that is why Infinity being shown as concept art at HaloFest tells us almost directly that the UNSC will in FACT be involved in Halo 4-6.

A few scrapped concepts are not anywhere near as significant as an entire faction influencing the gameplay and story.

[Edited on 11.03.2011 3:09 PM PDT]

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

Your lying, not everything in every video made it in and that is the entire point. If you are honestly going to try pulling that then you will clearly say and bend anything to attempt to make yourself seem correct.

Look up the halo 3 vidocs and an extremely low percentage of that ever made it into the game, same for halo 2.

And my argument isn't void since all of those concept arts did affect the game which is why ten years later bungie was still saying "I wish we could have had the Engineers and flamethrower in halo CE; have a drivable scarab and forerunner tank in halo 2, (they wish nearly everything could have got in halo 3),etc"

Can you please stop bringing up the UNSC and Infinity. INFINITY IS PROPERTY OF ONI AND 99.9 OF THE UNSC DOESN'T EVEN KNOW IT EXIST The UNSC will NOT be involved in the next trilogy ONI might but the UNSC will most likely not and we have nothing supporting that they will.

"a few"? I have 2 discs that run for maybe an hour or more about deleted concept art in halo 2 and 3 and how badly they wanted it to be in. You do understand that the Engineer was suppose to be in from day one but couldn't due to limited tech and time. That took nearly TEN YEARS to finally get in yet that is a big piece of halo lore and canon.



I would give more examples but it doesn't matter. concept art and promotional art does not confirm anything nor should you get your hopes up about it being in. If you are seriously going to keep messing up critical points such as stating concept as "fact" and confusing the difference of UNSC and ONI Then i will send every elder member that i have ran into over the years with a link to this thread (and others of yours) and and the explain what you are doing wrong in laymans terms.

Because if i EVER spouting some theory off of mere concept art, gameplay, and my own personal bias then i would have been run out of this forum years ago.



seeing how i know that you are going to continue thinking that you are right despite the fact you refuse to buy any of the games or novels I will just go ahead and send PMs to everybody and wait for their and your responses.

[Edited on 11.09.2011 6:11 PM PST]

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