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Subject: My theory of the UNSC showing up in Halo 4.

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Posted by: Ruby of the Blue

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Posted by: BumperJohn 117
A theory isn't a theory if it's confirmed lol


That's concept art fool. CONCEPT. Nice try though lol.


Idiot alert.

You know, usually when developing a game, you write the story FIRST before you begin designing things in the game.


It's called CONCEPT art for a reason.
concept/ känsept/
Noun:
1. An abstract idea; a general notion.
2. A plan or intention; a conception.
Synonyms:
notion - idea - thought - intention


Nice try though lol.


Cause you know, every concept art is going to make it to the game, that's why we have this bad boy running on the streets of Old Mombasa during Halo 2.

Or this one, maybe this one too.

  • 11.03.2011 3:49 PM PDT

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Posted by: flamedude
I think its a shame that 343i seems to think that the way to sell more books and games is to add MOAR LAZER BEEMZ.

UNSC ships with Forerunner tech.
Spartan-IVs
Mjolnir Mk VI

Can't they just focus on the established canon? There is more than enough material to work with. It's like Stargate SG1.
I agree with this so much.

[Edited on 11.03.2011 3:59 PM PDT]

  • 11.03.2011 3:52 PM PDT

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Posted by: Ruby of the Blue

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Posted by: TallestSpark
*****SPOILER ALERT*****

In Glasslands, they talk about project infinity, which is some top secret ship that's supposedly had Forerunner tech all over it since early in the war.


That is the ship in the Halo 4 Concept art. So that basically confirms the UNSC will be in Halo 4 right?


Yes it does. I don't see why it wouldn't.

And do I really have to bring the point out that it was on a big, fat official art board at Halo Fest?



Ruby, ultimately you may be right, the UNSC might be in Halo 4, and all of these things that you say are fact might come true.

But you can't assume that they are. The reason being that the assumptions that you make are ultimately obscure, and have no real detail in them. "The UNSC will be in halo 4 becase of *this*", well maybe that might be true, but we don't know what UNSC's role will be in halo 4.

Maybe it'll be a legendary ending cutscene leaving with us a little cliffhanger to halo 5. Maybe that ship won't even physically appear in the game, it might just be mentioned. Maybe the ship is dead and is drifting in the last place it went into orbit over.

The UNSC's presence is questionable, simply because one image only gleams at the possibility. But it doesn't confirm it, it's not a quote from a developer or producer of a game, it's not a piece of concept art with the "Halo 4" title at the bottom right of the image. It's just a piece of concept art on the Halo anniversary wall at halo fest.

I'm not saying that you are wrong, I'm not doubting the possibility of the UNSC showing up in the next halo series, I'm just saying that assuming that they will based on one piece of concept art (and a mention to a PROJECT not a SHIP in Glasslands) is a far stretched assumption, regardless of the eventual outcome.

  • 11.03.2011 8:19 PM PDT


Posted by: Spartan319

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Posted by: TallestSpark
Not sure about Halsey, she belongs to Parangosky now


How long do you really think that's going to last? Everyone knows that in the end the villains never really win, eventually they will get their comeuppance. Parangosky might have Halsey under her thumb right now, but do you really think she's going to remain their for the rest of her life?

What with the way the leaders of ONI are being set up to be villains, or at best antagonistic, I'm thinking that Chief is probably going to have some sort of confrontation with ONI in Halo 4 at some point.


I dont think so. Chief take orders from Cortana, Cortana take orders from Halsey, Halsey take orders from ONI. Without Halsey, in the usually events, Cortana (and the Chief) take orders from ONI like all other members of UNSC corps.


Actually Chief doesn't take orders from any one person, and he's not some mindless drone either. Spartans aren't going to follow orders that subvert the UNSC as a greater whole. And Chief trusts Cortana the most out of any other entity around, like in Halo 3, he trusted her call even though he knew what condition she was in. I'm willing to bet that even if Hood had decided not to send anyone through the Portal Chief would have gone through with the Elites for Cortana anyway. If Cortana told him Parangosky and other members of ONI were dangers and had plenty of good reasons to convince him he would trust her call on the matter. And he'll especially hunt ONI down if the UNSC proper declares them as operating outside the law and to be brought to trial or disbanded for overstepping their bounds more times than I can count.

Oh, and Cortana most definitely is not some mindless puppet who takes orders from anyone and everyone. She's even more free-thinking than the Chief is. If he doesn't spot something wrong or suspicious with an order, she will. And ONI is not the head of the UNSC, despite what Parangoski might think. Chief and every other member of the UNSC personnel only take orders from ONI if ONI has been given command of a mission or is sending them on a mission.


Master Chief and Cortana are weapons. And Cortana have 7 years. When she go in rampancy, you think Master Chief listen her or the UNSC/ONI?


That may be what they are used as, but neither one are mindless tools to be used and completely exploited by whoever happens to hold more authority. They're intelligent beings, and while Chief might be the more compliant of the two, they're not going to just sit around doing nothing at all and waiting for someone to give them a job, especially not Cortana, and neither one will blindly follow any order given without question, again, especially not Cortana. Cortana is the brains of the outfit and John trusts her explicitly, as I said before, if she told John that ONI or any one particular person was operating outside their bounds and posing a danger to humanity and the UNSC as a whole then John will act on it and follow her lead.

And rampancy is irrelevant to this, as I pointed out before, Chief trusted Cortana in Halo 3 before he recovered her even though it was obvious that she was breaking under the torture of the Gravemind, he'll trust her even if she is rampant, most likely a cautious trust but he will trust her nonetheless. And in any case, there is no definite time-table for when rampancy occurs. The only definite thing about is that it can happen anytime during a Smart AI's 7th year or any time after. And even if an AI is rampant that doesn't mean that they're completely off the wall, bat--blam!- insane, case in point being Julianna in Cole Protocol, she was quite clearly rampant, yet she was not totally insane and completely untrustworthy. Plus I personally think that Cortana has moved past rampancy into meta-stability or is quickly moving toward that point.

  • 11.04.2011 3:05 PM PDT


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Posted by: Ruby of the Blue

Posted by: TallestSpark

Posted by: BumperJohn 117
A theory isn't a theory if it's confirmed lol


That's concept art fool. CONCEPT. Nice try though lol.


Idiot alert.

You know, usually when developing a game, you write the story FIRST before you begin designing things in the game.


It's called CONCEPT art for a reason.
concept/ känsept/
Noun:
1. An abstract idea; a general notion.
2. A plan or intention; a conception.
Synonyms:
notion - idea - thought - intention


Nice try though lol.


Cause you know, every concept art is going to make it to the game, that's why we have this bad boy running on the streets of Old Mombasa during Halo 2.

Or this one, maybe this one too.



"Herp derp, we're 343. Let's just paint a random-ass pretty picture of a UNSC ship that we haven't written into the story of Halo Furrr, derpity!"

The thing is, Infinity isn't part of the gameplay, but those concepts you presented were. Since it surely isn't part of the gameplay (not until after it was integrated into the story, at least), that must mean it was drawn as a design of a pre-existing story aspect.
A story aspect which is part of the Halo 4 script.

"Herp derp, let's draw pretty concept pictures before writting dat dumd ol' storeee!"

[Edited on 11.09.2011 6:18 PM PST]

  • 11.09.2011 6:14 PM PDT


Posted by: grey101
The UNSC will NOT be involved in the next trilogy


Ahem.

And you're wondering why I didn't respond?

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Posted by: Ruby of the Blue

Posted by: BumperJohn 117
A theory isn't a theory if it's confirmed lol[/quote]

That's concept art fool. CONCEPT. Nice try though lol.[/quote]

Idiot alert.

You know, usually when developing a game, you write the story FIRST before you begin designing things in the game.


It's called CONCEPT art for a reason.
concept/ känsept/
Noun:
1. An abstract idea; a general notion.
2. A plan or intention; a conception.
Synonyms:
notion - idea - thought - intention


Nice try though lol.[/quote]

Cause you know, every concept art is going to make it to the game, that's why we have this bad boy running on the streets of Old Mombasa during Halo 2.

Or this one, maybe this one too.



"Herp derp, we're 343. Let's just paint a random-ass pretty picture of a UNSC ship that we haven't written into the story of Halo Furrr, derpity!"

The thing is, Infinity isn't part of the gameplay, but those concepts you presented were. Since it surely isn't part of the gameplay (not until after it was integrated into the story, at least), that must mean it was drawn as a design of a pre-existing story aspect.

"Herp derp, let's draw pretty concept pictures before writting dat dumd ol' storeee!"


infinity is in the story of Glasslands something everybody who knows the book understands.

So you say it isn't part of the gameplay but then say it "confirms" UNSC (which you mean ONI) presence in halo 4?


every shred of concept art is part of gameplay seeing how if it makes it in you will be interacting with it.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: Ruby of the Blue

Posted by: grey101
The UNSC will NOT be involved in the next trilogy


Ahem.

And you're wondering why I didn't respond?



Because when you know you are wrong and have nothing to say you resort to being childish and posting pictures.

  • 11.09.2011 6:21 PM PDT


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: Ruby of the Blue

Posted by: BumperJohn 117
A theory isn't a theory if it's confirmed lol[/quote]

That's concept art fool. CONCEPT. Nice try though lol.[/quote]

Idiot alert.

You know, usually when developing a game, you write the story FIRST before you begin designing things in the game.


It's called CONCEPT art for a reason.
concept/ känsept/
Noun:
1. An abstract idea; a general notion.
2. A plan or intention; a conception.
Synonyms:
notion - idea - thought - intention


Nice try though lol.[/quote]

Cause you know, every concept art is going to make it to the game, that's why we have this bad boy running on the streets of Old Mombasa during Halo 2.

Or this one, maybe this one too.



"Herp derp, we're 343. Let's just paint a random-ass pretty picture of a UNSC ship that we haven't written into the story of Halo Furrr, derpity!"

The thing is, Infinity isn't part of the gameplay, but those concepts you presented were. Since it surely isn't part of the gameplay (not until after it was integrated into the story, at least), that must mean it was drawn as a design of a pre-existing story aspect.

"Herp derp, let's draw pretty concept pictures before writting dat dumd ol' storeee!"


infinity is in the story of Glasslands something everybody who knows the book understands.


That part of Glasslands was written to tie in with Halo 4.

Since y'know, HALO 4 WAS WRITTEN BEFORE GLASSLANDS.

So you say it isn't part of the gameplay but then say it "confirms" UNSC (which you mean ONI) presence in halo 4?

You're getting a bit confused.

This is just me, but in a video game, you usually need to write something into a story in order to make it or something else part of the gameplay.

i.e., The Infinity needs to be written in in order for the UNSC's presence to make any sense.


every shred of concept art is part of gameplay

Ahem.

[Edited on 11.09.2011 6:32 PM PST]

  • 11.09.2011 6:32 PM PDT


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: Ruby of the Blue

Posted by: grey101
The UNSC will NOT be involved in the next trilogy


Ahem.

And you're wondering why I didn't respond?



Because when you know you are wrong and have nothing to say you resort to being childish and posting pictures.



Ahem.

Not quite, silly.

I just don't really feel like entertaining your horrendously redundant "roundabout" argument style in which you repeat what you had previously said because you have nothing else to say to what was currently said by me in which I have to repeat myself about eleven times.

No thanks, Tim.

[Edited on 11.09.2011 6:36 PM PST]

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: Ruby of the Blue


Posted by: BumperJohn 117
A theory isn't a theory if it's confirmed lol[/quote]

That's concept art fool. CONCEPT. Nice try though lol.[/quote]

Idiot alert.

You know, usually when developing a game, you write the story FIRST before you begin designing things in the game.


It's called CONCEPT art for a reason.
concept/ känsept/
Noun:
1. An abstract idea; a general notion.
2. A plan or intention; a conception.
Synonyms:
notion - idea - thought - intention


Nice try though lol.[/quote]

Cause you know, every concept art is going to make it to the game, that's why we have this bad boy running on the streets of Old Mombasa during Halo 2.

Or this one, maybe this one too.

[/quote]

"Herp derp, we're 343. Let's just paint a random-ass pretty picture of a UNSC ship that we haven't written into the story of Halo Furrr, derpity!"

The thing is, Infinity isn't part of the gameplay, but those concepts you presented were. Since it surely isn't part of the gameplay (not until after it was integrated into the story, at least), that must mean it was drawn as a design of a pre-existing story aspect.

"Herp derp, let's draw pretty concept pictures before writting dat dumd ol' storeee!"[/quote]

infinity is in the story of Glasslands something everybody who knows the book understands.


That part of Glasslands was written to tie in with Halo 4.

Since y'know, HALO 4 WAS WRITTEN BEFORE GLASSLANDS.

So you say it isn't part of the gameplay but then say it "confirms" UNSC (which you mean ONI) presence in halo 4?

You're getting a bit confused.

This is just me, but in a video game, you usually need to write something into a story in order to make it or something else part of the gameplay.

i.e., The Infinity needs to be written in in order for the UNSC's presence to make any sense.


every shred of concept art is part of gameplay

Ahem.


How exactly can you tell which part of a novel you never read was written specifically for concept art? How do you know that the current story of Halo 4 is the same as the one pitched years ago?


Can you explain to me why the UNSC is in to start with? because last time i checked Infinity is ONI.


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Posted by: Ruby of the Blue

Posted by: grey101

Posted by: Ruby of the Blue

Posted by: grey101
The UNSC will NOT be involved in the next trilogy


Ahem.

And you're wondering why I didn't respond?



Because when you know you are wrong and have nothing to say you resort to being childish and posting pictures.



Ahem.

Not quite, silly.

I just don't really feel like entertaining your horrendously redundant "roundabout" argument style in which you repeat what you had previously said because you have nothing else to say to what was currently said by me in which I have to repeat myself about eleven times.



No thanks, Tim.


Sadly, you're wrong on every basis. Now you're acting like a troll.

  • 11.09.2011 6:37 PM PDT


Posted by: grey101
How exactly can you tell which part of a novel you never read was written specifically for concept art?
How do you know that the current story of Halo 4 is the same as the one pitched years ago?


Because big decisions always come first. That's kind of the definition of "concept" actually.

I'd say the UNSC's impact on the trilogy is a pretty big decision. And even if the UNSC was written in later due to a quick decision, it wouldn't be as late as when Glasslands was being written because by that time, the developments aside from the writing would have been started.


Can you explain to me why the UNSC is in to start with?

Consistency and relevance to the past Halo games' gameplay.

Unless you're referring to the Halo games as a whole in which they just are.

because last time i checked Infinity is ONI.




Because having a ship bigger than the Pillar of Autumn with only a few ONI spooks and no assault/defense force onboard makes sense, right?

Sorry, but...

If you even dare to repeat one of your other void and flawed arguments, I will not respond to it.

[Edited on 11.09.2011 6:45 PM PST]

  • 11.09.2011 6:43 PM PDT


Posted by: raganok99

Posted by: Ruby of the Blue

Posted by: grey101

Posted by: Ruby of the Blue

Posted by: grey101
The UNSC will NOT be involved in the next trilogy


Ahem.

And you're wondering why I didn't respond?



Because when you know you are wrong and have nothing to say you resort to being childish and posting pictures.



Ahem.

Not quite, silly.

I just don't really feel like entertaining your horrendously redundant "roundabout" argument style in which you repeat what you had previously said because you have nothing else to say to what was currently said by me in which I have to repeat myself about eleven times.



No thanks, Tim.


Sadly, you're wrong on every basis.


I don't believe you for some reason...
It'd probably help if you explained why, huh?

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: Ruby of the Blue

Posted by: grey101
How exactly can you tell which part of a novel you never read was written specifically for concept art?
How do you know that the current story of Halo 4 is the same as the one pitched years ago?


Because big decisions always come first. That's kind of the definition of "concept" actually.

I'd say the UNSC's impact on the trilogy is a pretty big decision. And even if the UNSC was written in later due to a quick decision, it wouldn't be as late as when Glasslands was being written because by that time, the developments aside from the writing would have been started.


Can you explain to me why the UNSC is in to start with?

Consistency and relevance to the past Halo games' gameplay.

Unless you're referring to the Halo games as a whole in which they just are.

because last time i checked Infinity is ONI.




Because having a ship bigger than the Pillar of Autumn with only a few ONI spooks and no assault/defense force onboard makes sense, right?

Sorry, but...

If you even dare to repeat one of your other void and flawed arguments, I will not respond to it.


That doesn't answer the question. How can you look at one concept and an excerpt from book you never read then spout about it?


"I'd say". as usual you force your personal opinion derived from lack of knowledge on the lore and even the games into some theory you say is right.

The UNSC will not be in the game, in the current Fiction they are pretty much shouting that another war will happen so the next 3 games have "meaning". You would know this if you read Glasslands but regardless you shouldn't support this because this isn't creative.
The only reason you support crap like that is because you don't have an xbox and don't play enough halo. in which (for you) another ten years of fighting "the covenant" will be good because you never did it in the first place. while to everybody else who has been doing this for ten years will be bored out of their minds.


If you like consistency then you love call of duty correct? because the gameplay is always the same and the story doesn't take major leaps. Yet halo (can be) creative and attempts to switch things but you denounce that due to whatever personal predicament you are in.

Good, don't respond. Because there is nothing left for you to say. You don't read the books, you don't play the games so you have no idea how the series should expand which is why you want to keep it perpetual.


Your full of yourself.

  • 11.09.2011 6:55 PM PDT

@grey101

at least 2 concept arts actually, arguably more.

At :27 There is a ship with a humn numerical definition on the side, 803. it is not the Dawn, since that was FFG-201, and is otherwise too large.

Not saying it is the Infinity, but it is a human ship--unless the Forerunners suddenly started using arabic numericals

  • 11.09.2011 7:01 PM PDT


Posted by: Ruby of the Blue
Can you explain to me why the UNSC is in to start with?

Consistency and relevance to the past Halo games' gameplay.

Unless you're referring to the Halo games as a whole in which they just are.

because last time i checked Infinity is ONI.




Because having a ship bigger than the Pillar of Autumn with only a few ONI spooks and no assault/defense force onboard makes sense, right?


You've never explained why if the UNSC isn't there, halo 4 is magically inconsistent with the rest of the universe.

And, since you think the books are awful and don't touch them, you obviously don't understand what ONI has been turned into.

Edit: Ruby, if you haven't even read the books or played most of the games... Why do you care about halo and know exactly how it should progress?

[Edited on 11.09.2011 7:09 PM PST]

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@grey101

at least 2 concept arts actually, arguably more.

At :27 There is a ship with a humn numerical definition on the side, 803. it is not the Dawn, since that was FFG-201, and is otherwise too large.

Not saying it is the Infinity, but it is a human ship--unless the Forerunners suddenly started using arabic numericals


I am fully aware of this. Yet we know nothing of what is going on so we shouldn't be going around saying anything is confirmed. Especially since it was just movie concept art and not atleast a trailer.

There has to be some form of basis or support for even the smallest of ideas. I might be the biggest dick and arguably the most disliked person on this forum. But you guys put up with it because I do back up my stuff or atleast have some sort of creditable basis for my drugged up ideas.

  • 11.09.2011 7:06 PM PDT


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: Ruby of the Blue

Posted by: BumperJohn 117
A theory isn't a theory if it's confirmed lol[/quote]

That's concept art fool. CONCEPT. Nice try though lol.[/quote]

Idiot alert.

You know, usually when developing a game, you write the story FIRST before you begin designing things in the game.


It's called CONCEPT art for a reason.
concept/ känsept/
Noun:
1. An abstract idea; a general notion.
2. A plan or intention; a conception.
Synonyms:
notion - idea - thought - intention


Nice try though lol.[/quote]


Ok smartass you do understand that concept art does not mean confirmed.


Ok ignoramus, it does if it was presented to the public at an event about everything Halo. They wouldn't put it up unless it was sure to be in the game.



Another supporting statement that do not know halo whatsoever.


This was showed to the public and never happened and look it is an actual demo!

Another playable demo that never happened

Halo CE concept art most of which never happened

WOW halo reach concept art that didn't get in

Some halo wars art that NEVER GOT IN


More stuff that we saw before the games that never got in(only the engineer which was 10 years later

And just google art of alot of crap we saw before the games that never got in.

See since you haven't been around at all There was ALOT of art we saw and was promoted for halowars,halo 3,halo CE,halo 2,ODST, and halo reach that never made it.

The biggest letdowns were Halo 2 and halo 3. Just because something is promoted does not mean that it is in game, especally if it is still on a drawing board.


Ok, I'm finally going to weigh-in on all this concept art debate stuff.

Grey, if it's released to the public before the game comes out then it is pretty much certain that either the thing itself or something incredibly close to it is going to appear in the game. Take your Halo 2 New Mombasa example, the demo itself didn't make it into the game...but you still play in New Mombasa and are working on making your way to Regret's cruiser. Very little changed between the actual game and the demo.

How many of your examples really were released before their games came out? Because most of the stuff I'm seeing is all stuff Bungie released after the fact on the special features for the games or in art books and the like. The general rule of thumb I've found for things like concept art and such is that they are not revealed until after the media they're attached to has come out, and if they just so happen to actually be revealed before it does, then it is something the developers are pretty damn sure is going to make it into the final product in some sort of capacity. It may not be exactly as the concept showed (Halo 2's New Mombasa E3 Demo) but it will still be featured in some way.

  • 11.11.2011 9:57 AM PDT

Coma, if I may add in, there was actually pretty drastic changes from the E3 demo to the final game...

If you mean general concept, sure, but the entire level design(like what takes place where, not location), shape of New Mombasa, enemies fought, etc, were pretty different.

We didn't land in a UNSC forward base, we never took out an AA gun, never faced brutes, ending the area with a completely different feel...

So, while we can argue the Infinity might show up in Halo 4, we can't say if it's UNSC controlled, ONI controlled, or we walk onto a ship full of corpses of Spartan IV's (lol) and the place in ruins.

[Edited on 11.11.2011 10:28 AM PST]

  • 11.11.2011 10:28 AM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Coma, if I may add in, there was actually pretty drastic changes from the E3 demo to the final game...

If you mean general concept, sure, but the entire level design(like what takes place where, not location), shape of New Mombasa, enemies fought, etc, were pretty different.

We didn't land in a UNSC forward base, we never took out an AA gun, never faced brutes, ending the area with a completely different feel...

So, while we can argue the Infinity might show up in Halo 4, we can't say if it's UNSC controlled, ONI controlled, or we walk onto a ship full of corpses of Spartan IV's (lol) and the place in ruins.


Well, all I was really saying was that the Infinity will be featured in Halo 4 :P
In any case though, the Infinity being present does kind of indicate that the UNSC will play some sort of part in the game as live forces, how many there are or how prominently they will feature is up to debate though and it's best to just wait and see on that particular issue.

  • 11.11.2011 10:39 AM PDT


Posted by: OrderedComa

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Coma, if I may add in, there was actually pretty drastic changes from the E3 demo to the final game...

If you mean general concept, sure, but the entire level design(like what takes place where, not location), shape of New Mombasa, enemies fought, etc, were pretty different.

We didn't land in a UNSC forward base, we never took out an AA gun, never faced brutes, ending the area with a completely different feel...

So, while we can argue the Infinity might show up in Halo 4, we can't say if it's UNSC controlled, ONI controlled, or we walk onto a ship full of corpses of Spartan IV's (lol) and the place in ruins.


Well, all I was really saying was that the Infinity will be featured in Halo 4 :P
In any case though, the Infinity being present does kind of indicate that the UNSC will play some sort of part in the game as live forces, how many there are or how prominently they will feature is up to debate though and it's best to just wait and see on that particular issue.


That's if ONI removes the retarded evil stick from their ass and actually work with the UNSC.

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Posted by: TallestSpark
Not sure about Halsey, she belongs to Parangosky now


How long do you really think that's going to last? Everyone knows that in the end the villains never really win, eventually they will get their comeuppance. Parangosky might have Halsey under her thumb right now, but do you really think she's going to remain their for the rest of her life?

What with the way the leaders of ONI are being set up to be villains, or at best antagonistic, I'm thinking that Chief is probably going to have some sort of confrontation with ONI in Halo 4 at some point.


I dont think so. Chief take orders from Cortana, Cortana take orders from Halsey, Halsey take orders from ONI. Without Halsey, in the usually events, Cortana (and the Chief) take orders from ONI like all other members of UNSC corps.


Actually Chief doesn't take orders from any one person, and he's not some mindless drone either. Spartans aren't going to follow orders that subvert the UNSC as a greater whole. And Chief trusts Cortana the most out of any other entity around, like in Halo 3, he trusted her call even though he knew what condition she was in. I'm willing to bet that even if Hood had decided not to send anyone through the Portal Chief would have gone through with the Elites for Cortana anyway. If Cortana told him Parangosky and other members of ONI were dangers and had plenty of good reasons to convince him he would trust her call on the matter. And he'll especially hunt ONI down if the UNSC proper declares them as operating outside the law and to be brought to trial or disbanded for overstepping their bounds more times than I can count.

Oh, and Cortana most definitely is not some mindless puppet who takes orders from anyone and everyone. She's even more free-thinking than the Chief is. If he doesn't spot something wrong or suspicious with an order, she will. And ONI is not the head of the UNSC, despite what Parangoski might think. Chief and every other member of the UNSC personnel only take orders from ONI if ONI has been given command of a mission or is sending them on a mission.

Posted by: StealthSlasher2
Depending on when Halo 4 takes place, Parangosky may already be dead by the start with Osman being at the head. If that were the case it could prove to be a rather interesting confrontation between her and the Chief along with how she chooses to ultimately deal with Halsey.


Indeed it would, from what I've seen of Osman from the preview chapters, she sounds kind of like a Little Parangosky Jr., so she'll probably treat Halsey the same way if not worse than Parangosky does. I really hope the old hag can hang on long enough for Chief to come back though, I really want to see him give her what she deserves >:] Muahaha.


Master Chief and Cortana are weapons. And Cortana have 7 years. When she go in rampancy, you think Master Chief listen her or the UNSC/ONI?


I'm pretty sure that shes already past 7 years. I also read somewhere that she hasn't gone rampant because she is focused on her goal to help the chief.

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Posted by: chotato
smart, interesting, seems out of place.


Official fan of Assassin's Creed, Call of Duty, (Problem with that?) Halo, and Bungie, also a total gaming junkie.

Sigma 7 is connected to ONI.

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