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Subject: Toggling the swear filter

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It's their fault if their exposed??? Oh my . . . perhaps we all have a shared responsibility to ensure this site is appropriate for all regardless of maturity level.
Posted by: Kai Hiwatari

Posted by: IRISH 249
Please tell me you're kidding.

It is not difficult to understand that those who use profanity do so b/c they lack the vocabulary to express themselves in an appropriate manner.

There are many kids on the forums who don't need to be taught that dropping f-bombs is okay. KEEP IT CLEAN!

Posted by: elmicker
Posted by: IRISH 249
I prefer to not have the option. It would mess up the forums and I appreciate commentary being on a more adult level.
What makes you think profanity is juvenile?


I thought this was 16+? It's their fault if they get exposed. And they can just toggle it off.

  • 10.31.2011 1:16 PM PDT

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Posted by: IRISH 249
It's their fault if their exposed??? Oh my . . . perhaps we all have a shared responsibility to ensure this site is appropriate for all regardless of maturity level.
Posted by: Kai Hiwatari

Posted by: IRISH 249
Please tell me you're kidding.

It is not difficult to understand that those who use profanity do so b/c they lack the vocabulary to express themselves in an appropriate manner.

There are many kids on the forums who don't need to be taught that dropping f-bombs is okay. KEEP IT CLEAN!

Posted by: elmicker
Posted by: IRISH 249
I prefer to not have the option. It would mess up the forums and I appreciate commentary being on a more adult level.
What makes you think profanity is juvenile?


I thought this was 16+? It's their fault if they get exposed. And they can just toggle it off.


Well yeah, if their not even old enough to be here in the first place, it's their risk.

  • 10.31.2011 1:19 PM PDT

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Uh, I thought this was more common knowledge but no one actually tries to swear on Bungie.net. Bungie has grown so large that -Blam!- has replaced every swear word in North America. If you were to walk around and pay attention to others talking you may actually hear them say it too. So there is no swear filter to toggle off.

It's all part of Bungie's world domination.

[Edited on 10.31.2011 1:21 PM PDT]

  • 10.31.2011 1:21 PM PDT

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Umadbro?

You can drop f bombs all you want . . . I would be the first to defend your right to do so.

But your right to drop f bombs ends when an organization/entity that provides you space on something they own (you see where I'm going?) restricts you from doing so. Bungie.net is not the public square. You are in their living room. They get to control what you say. Don't want to follow the rules, they will ask you to take a time out (temp ban) and if you continue, kick you out for good (permanent ban) I support their right to control how people conduct themselves on their property.
Posted by: Cockburnicus
Posted by: x Foman123 x
Is it just about wanting to be able to express yourself?

Pretty much. If there's the option to toggle it on or off then I have the ability to express myself freely and you -blam!- have the ability to block "swear words" so they don't offend your out-dated sensibilities.


Posted by: IRISH 249
Please tell me you're kidding.

It is not difficult to understand that those who use profanity do so b/c they lack the vocabulary to express themselves in an appropriate manner.

There are many kids on the forums who don't need to be taught that dropping f-bombs is okay. KEEP IT CLEAN!

Who the -blam!- are you to judge what is an is not an appropriate manner of expression? That's some fascist -blam!- and you should be ashamed of yourself. Dropping "f-bombs" is -blam!- fine, it's doesn't make you seem any less intelligent. I have the vocabulary to express many complex things, it's just that most often -blam!- is the mot juste. Why do you want to stop me from saying it?

  • 10.31.2011 1:29 PM PDT
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Although there's no reason to see profanity. There is no reason to not have the option to see it (for older members). Though, I would rather see the web team work on a higher post count then work on the option to turn profanity on.

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  • 10.31.2011 1:35 PM PDT

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Posted by: IRISH 249
Umadbro?

You can drop f bombs all you want . . . I would be the first to defend your right to do so.

But your right to drop f bombs ends when an organization/entity that provides you space on something they own (you see where I'm going?) restricts you from doing so. Bungie.net is not the public square. You are in their living room. They get to control what you say. Don't want to follow the rules, they will ask you to take a time out (temp ban) and if you continue, kick you out for good (permanent ban) I support their right to control how people conduct themselves on their property.
Posted by: Cockburnicus
Posted by: x Foman123 x
Is it just about wanting to be able to express yourself?

Pretty much. If there's the option to toggle it on or off then I have the ability to express myself freely and you -blam!- have the ability to block "swear words" so they don't offend your out-dated sensibilities.


Posted by: IRISH 249
Please tell me you're kidding.

It is not difficult to understand that those who use profanity do so b/c they lack the vocabulary to express themselves in an appropriate manner.

There are many kids on the forums who don't need to be taught that dropping f-bombs is okay. KEEP IT CLEAN!

Who the -blam!- are you to judge what is an is not an appropriate manner of expression? That's some fascist -blam!- and you should be ashamed of yourself. Dropping "f-bombs" is -blam!- fine, it's doesn't make you seem any less intelligent. I have the vocabulary to express many complex things, it's just that most often -blam!- is the mot juste. Why do you want to stop me from saying it?

Mad? Moi?! wololololololololol

Of course I respect bungie's right to control what discussion goes on, on their -blam!- website. But that doesn't mean I can't want the ability to to express myself freely, if anything it makes the case for a the ability to toggle on/off the filter stronger. I can have it toggled off so I can express myself and those that find it offensive can keep the filter.

I'd like to be able to toggle the filter off, if I don't say it, I won't ever get it. I honestly don't expect bungie to read this thread or incorporate this feature, all I'm trying to say is that it would be nice to have and that people who think that swearing is immature or juvenile are -blam!- wrong.

  • 10.31.2011 1:48 PM PDT

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But that involves change, and you know how people feel about that here, don't you?

  • 10.31.2011 2:22 PM PDT

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With a toggle feature, you would have to run everything through the filter every time a page is loaded, rather than changing it once during the database commit. I have no idea how to manage a site with as many users as this, but I could see that becoming a concern when you have so many page loads per day.

  • 10.31.2011 2:47 PM PDT

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Case and point: don't worry about it. Girls start getting boobies pretty soon, and then you'll have plenty of other things to think about. Being an Inheritor is not a life goal.
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I don't see a personal problem with adding a toggle to the filter. I just don't see why it's needed, you're more than capable to express yourself without the use of swearing.

You can argue about not being able to argue about the National Socialist Party, but why do you need to argue about that on bungie.net anyway? I thought political discussion wasn't allowed?
There's a lot of words that are censored because the discussion of those words doesn't belong on bungie.net. When it comes down to it, this is a game developers site, there are tons of sites out there that are made for debates and serious discussion, this isn't one of them.

  • 10.31.2011 2:56 PM PDT

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Posted by: EDOET
I want a new filter that allows me to filter out words, posts, threads, or even users of my choosing. Man, that would be awesome...

I am pretty sure there is a script you can install for that. Not entirely positive though

EDIT: Also, that is one less reason for the mods to ban us :P

[Edited on 10.31.2011 3:43 PM PDT]

  • 10.31.2011 3:04 PM PDT

We need a madness to the method!

A toggle... hmm...

Let me try to think this out.

I think this website does the "processing" of the post when it's submitted to a thread. This way, when posts are submitted you only have to manipulate the text once.

If you simply stored the text raw as you see it in the textbox before submission, then you would have to filter out the -blam!- text every time the page is requested. With a lot of unique visitors making lots of these requests, I can imagine that cutting down unnecessary processing like this would help with speed.

However, if Achronos does it the way I expect (process the post once) then I cannot imagine how to implement a toggle.

[Edited on 10.31.2011 3:42 PM PDT]

  • 10.31.2011 3:41 PM PDT

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I do like forcing everyone into the -blam- filter. I for one don't take people who swear constantly in real life seriously as others when trying to make a point and it tends to make people look silly who feel the need to swear here on the forums if they have a ton of -blam-s in their post which I think is great.


[Edited on 10.31.2011 5:04 PM PDT]

  • 10.31.2011 5:03 PM PDT

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Posted by: Erikster
A toggle... hmm...

Let me try to think this out.

I think this website does the "processing" of the post when it's submitted to a thread. This way, when posts are submitted you only have to manipulate the text once.

If you simply stored the text raw as you see it in the textbox before submission, then you would have to filter out the -blam!- text every time the page is requested. With a lot of unique visitors making lots of these requests, I can imagine that cutting down unnecessary processing like this would help with speed.

However, if Achronos does it the way I expect (process the post once) then I cannot imagine how to implement a toggle.


I'm pretty bad with computer speak so could you kindly explain simpler please..

Also, how about, whenever you login, it asks you whether or not you want to have swear words visible or blamd?

  • 10.31.2011 5:16 PM PDT

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I see nothing wrong with this idea.

  • 10.31.2011 5:26 PM PDT

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>Time to wedge my opinion in...

Ok, im all for the toggling of the profanity filter. It's free speech after all. Let's face it. All kids grow up. They learn new things, and after a while, they hear words that they know are bad and will eventually start repeating them. It's pretty much gaurenteed that they WILL be exposed to swear words. It's just common sense, guys. It doesnt really matter, itll happen sometime or anothet that they will read or hear swearing.

  • 10.31.2011 6:06 PM PDT

We need a madness to the method!

Posted by: Kai Hiwatari
Also, how about, whenever you login, it asks you whether or not you want to have swear words visible or blamd?
Hahaha, my point is that Achronos might not be able to get what everyone wants. It might be too problematic for Bnet's servers and it might require an overhaul of how text from posts are processed and stored.

Now, I'm just speculating because I don't know about the mechanics behind this forums. I'm just guessing based on how I would do it.

  • 10.31.2011 6:28 PM PDT

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I'm always a fan of more options, but I'd rather the webteam spend their limited time on other things.

  • 10.31.2011 7:27 PM PDT
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Well that would make me look silly when I purposefully type out a line of asterisks. Sometimes I don't even check to make sure its the correct length of the word I was going to put there. I find it keeps people wondering what I was really trying to say. :P

  • 10.31.2011 7:30 PM PDT

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Posted by: TheUsualPsycho
>Time to wedge my opinion in...

Ok, im all for the toggling of the profanity filter. It's free speech after all. Let's face it. All kids grow up. They learn new things, and after a while, they hear words that they know are bad and will eventually start repeating them. It's pretty much gaurenteed that they WILL be exposed to swear words. It's just common sense, guys. It doesnt really matter, itll happen sometime or anothet that they will read or hear swearing.

I don't think the problem is maturity and whether the kiddies should be exposed to such content. I think the problem is actually implementing a system that works without a large scale amount of work required to do so.

  • 10.31.2011 7:40 PM PDT
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Profanity doesn't tend to have a place in most intelligent discussions, therefore I don't see a toggle feature being necessary. People should be able to express themselves calmly and coherently without profanity.

  • 10.31.2011 7:46 PM PDT

I don't see a problem with it at all, I been in many fan made forums for Bungie that didn't have a word blocker at all and they even had more interesting threads. Once you give the user full language rights like in the real world people don't seem to depend on swearing as much in conversations. I personally believe that people abuse the block because it makes spam by having nothing but -blam!- -blam!- -blam!- -blam!- -blam!- -blam!- -blam!- -blam!- -blam!- -blam!- -blam!- -blam!- -blam!- -blam!- -blam!- -blam!-! If we did away with it I think people would actually be more mature as they would feel as if they can properly voice their thoughts rather than have been blocked up.

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Posted by: x Foman123 x
Is it just about wanting to be able to express yourself? Do you giggle insanely to yourself whenever you see an f-bomb? Why is so impossible to say what you need to say without profanity?


I think I have to kinda go with this. I don't really understand the need to use profanity if you are talking about something or trying to get your point across. If there is no real need for it why do it?

  • 11.01.2011 3:09 AM PDT


Posted by: Kai Hiwatari

Posted by: Erikster
A toggle... hmm...

Let me try to think this out.

I think this website does the "processing" of the post when it's submitted to a thread. This way, when posts are submitted you only have to manipulate the text once.

If you simply stored the text raw as you see it in the textbox before submission, then you would have to filter out the -blam!- text every time the page is requested. With a lot of unique visitors making lots of these requests, I can imagine that cutting down unnecessary processing like this would help with speed.

However, if Achronos does it the way I expect (process the post once) then I cannot imagine how to implement a toggle.


I'm pretty bad with computer speak so could you kindly explain simpler please..

Also, how about, whenever you login, it asks you whether or not you want to have swear words visible or blamd?

Simply what they said was as the site currently is, when you submit a post it runs through the filter and blams out certain words, then the new post with blocked out words is then posted onto the forum, simple. If there is a filter this means that every time someone went on a page the website would have to check every post and either load the page as normal or block out certain words, with the ammount of people using this website it means a lot more work for the servers which could result in problems.

  • 11.01.2011 3:47 AM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

I say that I am strongly against this and in support I cite the "Swear are for squares," defense in the Timmy vs Johnny case.

  • 11.01.2011 5:31 AM PDT

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Posted by: x Foman123 x
Is it just about wanting to be able to express yourself? Do you giggle insanely to yourself whenever you see an f-bomb? Why is so impossible to say what you need to say without profanity?


I think I have to kinda go with this. I don't really understand the need to use profanity if you are talking about something or trying to get your point across. If there is no real need for it why do it?
It may be hypocritical, but I see a big difference between using profanity when speaking and and when writing.

  • 11.01.2011 5:36 AM PDT

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