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"Find where the liar hides, so that I may place my boot between his gums!" - Rtas 'Vadum
Posted by: mr_Sh4dy
3: Just because they were talked in to a war by the prophets with religous reasonings does not take away their blame or the blood on their hands. It's like the catholic church denying the destruction and horror caused by the crusades. They decided to fight the humans without question (excluding some). They were at fault at that and so why should humanity make the first move to correct their mistakes.
Absolutely. I was not saying that it would really allow for any forgiveness, not at all. Rather, it may allow people to see that things did not necessarily have to be that way and that they are not the innately evil mass murdering conquerors that most people will think of them as. Older generations will probably still hate them, but if they see this then they might be more willing to step back rather than actively seek revenge or isolationism. The Elite's would still need to make the effort though, which does not happen anyway so I guess it is nothing more than an interesting "what-if".
Posted by: mr_Sh4dy
4: I agree with you that Traviss has undercut their previous development. She sort of mentions this in the article saying she recreates some characters from the ground up with the use some psuedo amateur psych mumbo jumbo. Which is pretty pretentious of her since there was nothing wrong with most characters in the first place and it's not like she is some sort of expert on this stuff.
It probably could be said that it is not really the Elites any more. Changing characters and it really ceases to be them. I mean, they are suposed to be this race that values bravery and cunning, and this was demonstrably applied to Humanity with the Halo 2 booklet, yet this is all swept under the carpet. Now it is all "Humans are liars, dishonourable, good at nothing, kill them all!".
Posted by: mr_Sh4dy
However some of the changes she made, like why Jul 'Mdama hates humans was "explained" when there was a mentioning of some kind of incident.... Which could be (pure speculation) of that super bomb admiral Whitcomb destroyed an entire armada with. This might just be her setting up a possible side story/history.
And even though we both don't agree with her take on the elites, with the release of this novel it can only be considered canon.
I might have glazed over that bit, I don't really remember it. But yes it is canon, and another 2 more to go...