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Subject: Dropshield - The lost armor ability

@spawn031

"So much of what we do is ephemeral and quickly forgotten, even by ourselves, so it's gratifying to have something you have done linger in people's memories." John Williams

While the results of Dropshield can sometimes be fun, the death of it is no fun at all. Lets face it. Dropshield was an iteration of the Halo 3's Bubble Shield. I think Bungie ran out of ideas for armor abilities and needed to add a 7th to keep their number 7 tradition going on.

However, especially in objective games, Dropshield has shown itself to literally break the game. Games like this are no fun at all. It may fun at first, but it really does show how easily abusable Dropshields are. So what's the solution? Cut it from matchmaking?

I think it would be easier to add variety to gameplay rather than cutting it. Why aren't more Armor Abilities added as pickups on maps? This would create incentive to add map movement. Like getting the overshield and active camo in previous games. Since you spawn with your abilities in Reach, there is no reason to move on the map.

Dropshield really shows its abuse in Objective gametypes. But what about slayer? You could say that there will always be the guy in the corner with the shotgun using it. But what if you add it to all maps as a pickup? Maybe the ideal solution for Armor Ability balance is having Sprint only, and adding everything else as map pickups.

Thoughts?

  • 11.01.2011 3:46 PM PDT

Walk by faith. Dude. Not by sight.

I would love pickups, but I don't think there will be any more changes.

  • 11.01.2011 3:48 PM PDT

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Posted by: NicodemusTNT
I would love pickups, but I don't think there will be any more changes.

At least not from Bungies end. I think we were a bit hasty in the Optimatch forum in remove the Armor Ability all together though.

  • 11.01.2011 3:50 PM PDT

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I think the DS should be exclusive to FF like the Target Locator. Even as a pickup it's not fair because of the tunneling, conga-line caterpillar move everybody does. It gets old fast.

  • 11.01.2011 3:51 PM PDT

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Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
I think the DS should be exclusive to FF like the Target Locator. Even as a pickup it's not fair because of the tunneling, conga-line caterpillar move everybody does. It gets old fast.

I know what you mean, but as a pickup only 1 player could use it. So it would be pretty ineffective unless the other team is completely dysfunctional.

  • 11.01.2011 3:52 PM PDT
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DS doesn't work in Multiplayer at all. Bubble was fine only because you get one use.

  • 11.01.2011 3:53 PM PDT

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Posted by: Boomdeyadahh
DS doesn't work in Multiplayer at all. Bubble was fine only because you get one use.

I would argue that having DS in Multiplayer plays much better than Armor Lock though. AL just creates a standstill, at least there is a counter and something you can do with Dropshield.

  • 11.01.2011 3:54 PM PDT

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I don't get it... Run in, jump down, throw grenade (which according to everyone are basically nukes), ???, profit.

  • 11.01.2011 4:00 PM PDT

I miss the DS. Or more to the point, I miss the bubble shield. It was really a game changer when it came to use. I think that DS as a pick up just won't do. It would be to easy to defend a flag with the combination of a power weapon and DS. Same goes for slayer in a way.

  • 11.01.2011 4:03 PM PDT

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The only way to put it in matchmaking would be to limit its use to once or twice per life. Wouldn't be bad in big team games if it replaced armor lock, but other than that I still don't see it being used.

  • 11.01.2011 4:15 PM PDT
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  • 11.01.2011 4:22 PM PDT

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Posted by: major_gamer
The only way to put it in matchmaking would be to limit its use to once or twice per life. Wouldn't be bad in big team games if it replaced armor lock, but other than that I still don't see it being used.


In objective games there will be a problem remember many people complained about people campering at their base with the drop shield. For slayer based games I find it will be alright some may complain but ow well.

[Edited on 11.01.2011 4:28 PM PDT]

  • 11.01.2011 4:25 PM PDT

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Posted by: major_gamer
The only way to put it in matchmaking would be to limit its use to once or twice per life. Wouldn't be bad in big team games if it replaced armor lock, but other than that I still don't see it being used.


In objective games there will be a problem remember many people complained about people campering at their base with the drop shield.


Yea that's why you'd need to limit its use. Once per life might be the only solution.

Even then I could still see it being abused.. but I mean.. aren't all the abilities?

  • 11.01.2011 4:30 PM PDT

Posted by: SplitSw0rd
it doesn't help that your face is a talking bomb too.

I wish all AAs were pickups and the movement speed was bumped up to 110%. It would actually encourage people to move around the map for a change.

  • 11.01.2011 4:33 PM PDT
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  • 11.01.2011 4:39 PM PDT

Hi.

And this is another reason why Equipment > AAs.

A pickup-able bubble shield isn't bad, but when you make it an infinitely regenerating one... meh.

The only AA I'd ever miss would be Sprint. The rest are all so bad.

  • 11.01.2011 4:39 PM PDT
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If you like Armor Lock, you are a troll.

Bubble shield was terrible, drop shield is terrible. There was no reason to force that retarded crap into Reach.

  • 11.01.2011 4:41 PM PDT

It's usage should be the same as Armour Lock, meaning you have to hold the button down in order to use it. Change it to have a meter that decreases over time that speeds up due to fire or explosions.

  • 11.01.2011 4:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: NicodemusTNT
I would love pickups, but I don't think there will be any more changes.

  • 11.01.2011 5:01 PM PDT
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I'm actually pretty sure removing all these lousy additions to the sandbox and bringing players back to previous games movement would be great for Reach.

It's too bad that won't happen.

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Posted by: RC Clone
I'm actually pretty sure removing all these lousy additions to the sandbox and bringing players back to previous games movement would be great for Reach.

It's too bad that won't happen.

and that should of been done months ago, you know, when there was a larger population.

  • 11.01.2011 5:05 PM PDT


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It's too bad that won't happen.

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  • 11.01.2011 5:09 PM PDT
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It's too bad that won't happen.

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I guess.

  • 11.01.2011 5:25 PM PDT

Please...stop getting butthurt when I noscope you from the passenger seat of the vehicle I'm riding in :D

Only problem with OPs thinking, is they can't be added as pickups, because you swap your current AA for another. This means you keep the one you just swapped for and seeing as you'd only live long enough to really effectively use it a sparingly few times, there'd be no real incentive to pick it up. I'd just rather keep my Sprint/Evade than to use it.

  • 11.01.2011 5:45 PM PDT

Hi.

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Posted by: ThreeSixXero
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It's too bad that won't happen.

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I guess.
+1

  • 11.01.2011 5:49 PM PDT

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