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Bungie should consider investing in precipitation gathering nets for these forums. The sheer amount of tears shed by anyone who's been destroyed by armor lock, jet pack, grenades, and the AR could continuously operate hydroelectric dams, irrigate farms, and provide clean drinking water for third world countries.

So that's why they said that Halo Reach was, by default, one of the best FPS games around, and that there was nothing wrong with it, and they were only going to add the TU in addition to the standard game?

Face it, the TU playlists are daycare for MLG wannabe whiner kids. At least 343 had the foresight to segregate them from the people who enjoyed the game.

  • 11.04.2011 8:14 AM PDT

Lol you really are delusional arent you? Did you miss the part when Bungie admitted bloom was a failure?

  • 11.04.2011 8:15 AM PDT


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Posted by: eRage Sanctity
Its well known among good players that you need increased jump, movement, etc with no bloom.

it's still who shoots who first wins, you just have to be the one to shoot first.

Sure, if you shot 2nd and you're dumb enough to walk in a straight line.

lrn2strafe


lolyou can't strafe very well on default movement speed. Even so you even walk into two people might as well call yourself dead in a second. The Br was different you had a chance to survive against two people. With this game in particular I prefer 85% bloom over no bloom in a heartbeat.
No bloom makes weapons like the sniper useless. Now if they slowed down the rate of fire on the DMR it would work of course I agree.

[Edited on 11.04.2011 8:18 AM PDT]

  • 11.04.2011 8:15 AM PDT


Posted by: AK FROST

Posted by: eRage Sanctity

Posted by: con_extreme

Posted by: eRage Sanctity
Its well known among good players that you need increased jump, movement, etc with no bloom.

it's still who shoots who first wins, you just have to be the one to shoot first.

Sure, if you shot 2nd and you're dumb enough to walk in a straight line.

lrn2strafe


lolyou can't strafe very well on default movement. Speed even so you even walk into two people might as well call yourself dead in a second.

Read 1st quote.

I cant even understand that 2nd sentence.

  • 11.04.2011 8:16 AM PDT


Posted by: eRage Sanctity

Posted by: AK FROST

Posted by: eRage Sanctity

Posted by: con_extreme

Posted by: eRage Sanctity
Its well known among good players that you need increased jump, movement, etc with no bloom.

it's still who shoots who first wins, you just have to be the one to shoot first.

Sure, if you shot 2nd and you're dumb enough to walk in a straight line.

lrn2strafe


lolyou can't strafe very well on default movement. Speed even so you even walk into two people might as well call yourself dead in a second.

Read 1st quote.

I cant even understand that 2nd sentence.


Fix'd my bad.

  • 11.04.2011 8:17 AM PDT
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Bungie should consider investing in precipitation gathering nets for these forums. The sheer amount of tears shed by anyone who's been destroyed by armor lock, jet pack, grenades, and the AR could continuously operate hydroelectric dams, irrigate farms, and provide clean drinking water for third world countries.

'Failure' at TRYING to fix the problem with the rifles is still better than dismissing there was a problem at all. Bloom nerfs the rifles at longer range, and gives them more tactical choices at shorter ones. I'm happy that they tried, and had at least minor success, with making rifles a more well rounded aspect of the game, instead of a go-to-kill-all weapon that obsoletes everything below it.

  • 11.04.2011 8:17 AM PDT

Minor success? It was a colossal failure, just like a lot of aspects of Reach.

  • 11.04.2011 8:19 AM PDT


Posted by: Dauss
'Failure' at TRYING to fix the problem with the rifles is still better than dismissing there was a problem at all. Bloom nerfs the rifles at longer range, and gives them more tactical choices at shorter ones. I'm happy that they tried, and had at least minor success, with making rifles a more well rounded aspect of the game, instead of a go-to-kill-all weapon that obsoletes everything below it.


Take zoom off of the pistol easy fix. The thing is as accurate as the DMR mid and can even shoot long range 3 shot kill it's invincable.

  • 11.04.2011 8:19 AM PDT
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Bungie should consider investing in precipitation gathering nets for these forums. The sheer amount of tears shed by anyone who's been destroyed by armor lock, jet pack, grenades, and the AR could continuously operate hydroelectric dams, irrigate farms, and provide clean drinking water for third world countries.

Now you're not even trying to support your argument.

AK FROST: Personally I think the magnum is fine as it is. The lack of a 2.5 times scope, instead having the 2 times one, and only 8 rounds in a magazine (So one kill from full health, more if the opponents are weakened) make it a good spawn weapon to be able to fight back against rifles, without giving anyone easy kills.

[Edited on 11.04.2011 8:22 AM PDT]

  • 11.04.2011 8:19 AM PDT


Posted by: Dauss
Now you're not even trying to support your argument.


They could have tryed to tweak the BR instead of making a single shot failure of a DMR. Why do companies have to fix what isn't broken all of the time?

  • 11.04.2011 8:21 AM PDT


Posted by: AK FROST

Posted by: Dauss
Now you're not even trying to support your argument.


They could have tryed to tweak the BR instead of making a single shot failure of a DMR. Why do companies have to fix what isn't broken all of the time?

Because Sage tried turning this game into Shadowrun2 and we got this disgrace of a Halo title. At least we know Frankie will try to restore the franchise.

  • 11.04.2011 8:23 AM PDT


Posted by: eRage Sanctity

Posted by: AK FROST

Posted by: Dauss
Now you're not even trying to support your argument.


They could have tryed to tweak the BR instead of making a single shot failure of a DMR. Why do companies have to fix what isn't broken all of the time?

Because Sage tried turning this game into Shadowrun2 and we got this disgrace of a Halo title. At least we know Frankie will try to restore the franchise.


Agreed and I can't wait until that time. As soon as I hit inheritor this game can collect dust. If it wasn't halo it would have been sold back like Homefront or Crysis 2. I'm sure 343 will actually listen to it's community. I hope.

  • 11.04.2011 8:27 AM PDT
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Bungie should consider investing in precipitation gathering nets for these forums. The sheer amount of tears shed by anyone who's been destroyed by armor lock, jet pack, grenades, and the AR could continuously operate hydroelectric dams, irrigate farms, and provide clean drinking water for third world countries.

Hate to point it out to you, Reach gun play is very similar to Halo CE. CE didn't HAVE your burst fire rifle, and it didn't need it. Burst fire rifles are really, really stupid, when they're also headshot capable. Congratulations, you can hover a cursor over the general area of a mans skull. YOU WIN.

The DMR is satisfactory because you actually have to make a headshot, not be in the general area slamming R as fast as you can and sweeping. The changes you laud as being a restoration to the franchise were not in place in Reach because they didn't work, and were removed. But tears brought them back, at least for the TU playlists.

  • 11.04.2011 8:28 AM PDT

What's the deal with milk?


Posted by: Dauss
Nah, you guys should have adapted when Reach came out. Bungie didn't give you the BR again for a reason, it was overpowered when it was pinpoint accurate. They gave you the DMR instead to give you a powerful weapon, that still had flaws so that it couldn't dominate the battlefield at every range. But you whined until 343 gave you a BR wannabe back in the form of zero bloom.

Also to the guy concerning the idea I 'get killed in the TU beta', I haven't and will not be participating in Zero Bloom games, as I LIKE default Reach.


This bolded text is the *worst* argument I've heard against the TU. Why? I shall explain.

Back in the halo 3 forums people complained about the BR being over powered and the dominant weapon. Who exactly complained? The vocal minority.....

Bungie listened to the whiners to change the game and look what we got: Halo reach. A mere shadow of its predecessors, all because bungie caved to the whiners.

Now, when the true fans want the old (aka *good*) games back, we get called the "vocal minority". Actually, we are the majority who liked Halo CE to Halo 3. Halo Reach is a result of the whiners, NOT the TU Reach.

  • 11.04.2011 8:29 AM PDT


Posted by: Dauss
Hate to point it out to you, Reach gun play is very similar to Halo CE. CE didn't HAVE your burst fire rifle, and it didn't need it. Burst fire rifles are really, really stupid, when they're also headshot capable. Congratulations, you can hover a cursor over the general area of a mans skull. YOU WIN.

The DMR is satisfactory because you actually have to make a headshot, not be in the general area slamming R as fast as you can and sweeping. The changes you laud as being a restoration to the franchise were not in place in Reach because they didn't work, and were removed. But tears brought them back, at least for the TU playlists.


Do you realize how much aim assist is on the DMR how could you miss the headshot. They would have worked if Bungie didn't fix what wasn't broken. I'm not sure how many stupid mechanics you would like that make this game unplayable. Way over 10 is way too much for me. Stop trying to defend something that doesn't make logical sense.

  • 11.04.2011 8:30 AM PDT
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Bungie should consider investing in precipitation gathering nets for these forums. The sheer amount of tears shed by anyone who's been destroyed by armor lock, jet pack, grenades, and the AR could continuously operate hydroelectric dams, irrigate farms, and provide clean drinking water for third world countries.

I've been making logical points to support my argument, if you hadn't noticed. Stop brushing off opposing opinions because you don't agree with them.

  • 11.04.2011 8:34 AM PDT


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I've been making logical points to support my argument, if you hadn't noticed. Stop brushing off opposing opinions because you don't agree with them.


I had made rebutles to your statments. If I believe the statement is so stupid I don't answer to it normally I just don't explain the reason for such it's pretty ovbious.

  • 11.04.2011 8:37 AM PDT
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Posted by: Dauss
I've been making logical points to support my argument, if you hadn't noticed. Stop brushing off opposing opinions because you don't agree with them.


Well then stop making posts like this. vvvv

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"WE WANT THE DMR TO BE THE ONLY WEAPON WORTH USING! WE'RE TIRED OF BEING KILLED BY PLAYERS WITH THE ASSAULT RIFLE, IT SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO KILL ANYTHING! I'M TIRED OF HAVING TO PACE MY SHOTS BECAUSE I HAVE THE ATTENTION SPAN OF A 4 YEAR OLD! WWWWHHHIIIIINNNNEEEEE"



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  • 11.04.2011 8:38 AM PDT

I will make a logical statement for you. HAlo Reach was the worst Halo game in history. Not only that it has many crutches and one ranked playlist because people can't handle to be told they aren't as good as the rest of the community. They give them things like "Sword block" "DMR" "Bloom" "Mini-nukes" "Armor lock" so that it could stop a bad player from dying. Not only that but the BR works as intended the DMR was such a joke 343 is trying to fix the problem of putting a single shot in matchmaking. The most embarassing point of all was that reach never hit number one but 3 and dropped to 5 with one year and a 2 months. The population went from 100000 on at one time to nearly only 10,000. It was even lower than Halo 3's p[opulation one day. This game is the biggest embarrasment Bungie ever released. You must be pretty retarded to think otherwise the numbers are there. Sure it sold a lot of copies but quality is better than quantity as you see many copies back in EB games.

  • 11.04.2011 8:41 AM PDT
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Bungie should consider investing in precipitation gathering nets for these forums. The sheer amount of tears shed by anyone who's been destroyed by armor lock, jet pack, grenades, and the AR could continuously operate hydroelectric dams, irrigate farms, and provide clean drinking water for third world countries.

Actually I didn't see one piece of logic in there, just angry opinions.

Have you considered playing Halo 3? I'm sure they'll take you back, you seem to like it that much better than Reach, just seems like a viable option for you.

  • 11.04.2011 8:55 AM PDT
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Actually I didn't see one piece of logic in there, just angry opinions.

Have you considered playing Halo 3? I'm sure they'll take you back, you seem to like it that much better than Reach, just seems like a viable option for you.


Yeah man playing a 4-5 year old game sounds like loads of fun. Not surprised average dumpy casual player defending an awful game.

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  • 11.04.2011 9:04 AM PDT
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Bungie should consider investing in precipitation gathering nets for these forums. The sheer amount of tears shed by anyone who's been destroyed by armor lock, jet pack, grenades, and the AR could continuously operate hydroelectric dams, irrigate farms, and provide clean drinking water for third world countries.

Because age determines if a game is good or not, right?

Because yeah there's no such thing as a good game that is more then 3 years old.

Totally.

In regards to your typical 'Casual' player comment, I used to be PAID to play Halo. I just never -blam!-ed and moaned about it, because I actually like the series and treat it as something to have fun with, not cry about.

[Edited on 11.04.2011 9:07 AM PDT]

  • 11.04.2011 9:05 AM PDT


Posted by: eRage Sanctity

Posted by: con_extreme

Posted by: eRage Sanctity
Its well known among good players that you need increased jump, movement, etc with no bloom.

it's still who shoots who first wins, you just have to be the one to shoot first.

Sure, if you shot 2nd and you're dumb enough to walk in a straight line.

lrn2strafe

and if your both strafing?...

  • 11.04.2011 9:08 AM PDT

Planking : Parkour for people who don't move very fast.


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Posted by: Dauss
Actually I didn't see one piece of logic in there, just angry opinions.

Have you considered playing Halo 3? I'm sure they'll take you back, you seem to like it that much better than Reach, just seems like a viable option for you.


Yeah man playing a 4-5 year old game sounds like loads of fun. Not surprised average dumpy casual player defending an awful game.


Denser then Osmium.

  • 11.04.2011 9:10 AM PDT
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Posted by: Dauss
Because age determines if a game is good or not, right?

Because yeah there's no such thing as a good game that is more then 3 years old.

Totally.

In regards to your typical 'Casual' player comment, I used to be PAID to play Halo. I just never -blam!-ed and moaned about it, because I actually like the series and treat it as something to have fun with, not cry about.


yeah I bet you got paid alright

Go play loldefault reach if you like it so much honestly no one gives 2 sh1ts about it. Point is you don't know a single thing about competitive play or the skill gap associated with it because reach offers neither competitive play and rewards bad players (Armor lock, bloom, slowed movement speed,etc).

[Edited on 11.04.2011 9:13 AM PDT]

  • 11.04.2011 9:11 AM PDT

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