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Subject: So, I played the TU playlist...

Fun fact: 9/10 users with no linked gamertag are better than you at Halo. That doesn't necessarily mean that I am; but it does mean there's a pretty solid chance.

Posted by: Dauss
Because age determines if a game is good or not, right?

Because yeah there's no such thing as a good game that is more then 3 years old.

Totally.

In regards to your typical 'Casual' player comment, I used to be PAID to play Halo. I just never -blam!-ed and moaned about it, because I actually like the series and treat it as something to have fun with, not cry about.


No, you didn't.

  • 11.04.2011 9:12 AM PDT
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Bungie should consider investing in precipitation gathering nets for these forums. The sheer amount of tears shed by anyone who's been destroyed by armor lock, jet pack, grenades, and the AR could continuously operate hydroelectric dams, irrigate farms, and provide clean drinking water for third world countries.

I played in a local league, just not Halo 3. Halo CE and 2, the group disbanded before Halo 3 came out. But I like how quick you guys are to try and poke holes in things you can't prove, speaks volumes about your maturity.

  • 11.04.2011 9:15 AM PDT

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Somebody please lock this. I just wanted some info about updates, not a flamewar...

  • 11.04.2011 9:16 AM PDT

Fun fact: 9/10 users with no linked gamertag are better than you at Halo. That doesn't necessarily mean that I am; but it does mean there's a pretty solid chance.

Posted by: Dauss
I played in a local league, just not Halo 3. Halo CE and 2, the group disbanded before Halo 3 came out. But I like how quick you guys are to try and poke holes in things you can't prove, speaks volumes about your maturity.
'Competing in a league' and 'getting paid to play Halo' are two very different things. Anyone can join a ladder.

If you want to be taken seriously, stop using moot information and find something worth saying.

  • 11.04.2011 9:18 AM PDT
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Posted by: Dauss
I played in a local league, just not Halo 3. Halo CE and 2, the group disbanded before Halo 3 came out. But I like how quick you guys are to try and poke holes in things you can't prove, speaks volumes about your maturity.


Were you paid in Mt. Dew?

  • 11.04.2011 9:18 AM PDT
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Bungie should consider investing in precipitation gathering nets for these forums. The sheer amount of tears shed by anyone who's been destroyed by armor lock, jet pack, grenades, and the AR could continuously operate hydroelectric dams, irrigate farms, and provide clean drinking water for third world countries.

I used to win cash pot tournaments based on my play in CE and 2. I for one didn't drag out the fact like this, I was called a 'casual' because someone was upset that he couldn't argue logically so I rebuffed him.

  • 11.04.2011 9:20 AM PDT

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Posted by: Dauss
I played in a local league, just not Halo 3. Halo CE and 2, the group disbanded before Halo 3 came out. But I like how quick you guys are to try and poke holes in things you can't prove, speaks volumes about your maturity.


Were you paid in Mt. Dew?


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  • 11.04.2011 9:20 AM PDT

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Alone we are a menace, together we are a threat...
Born to raise hell, live to drop back in it...
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Posted by: Dauss
I used to win cash pot tournaments based on my play in CE and 2. I for one didn't drag out the fact like this, I was called a 'casual' because someone was upset that he couldn't argue logically so I rebuffed him.


Dude just give up..... I know I have.

It's ironic since most players that been around since CE didn't like much of the TU either and steared clear of the forums on bungie after Halo 3.

[Edited on 11.04.2011 9:25 AM PDT]

  • 11.04.2011 9:25 AM PDT
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Posted by: KIBOSH
They should just make an HLG playlist then you guys can hide against each other and see how much fun it is.

Posted by: Dauss
You need to be added to the list.

  • 11.04.2011 9:29 AM PDT

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Posted by: Dauss
"WE WANT THE DMR TO BE THE ONLY WEAPON WORTH USING! WE'RE TIRED OF BEING KILLED BY PLAYERS WITH THE ASSAULT RIFLE, IT SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO KILL ANYTHING! I'M TIRED OF HAVING TO PACE MY SHOTS BECAUSE I HAVE THE ATTENTION SPAN OF A 4 YEAR OLD! WWWWHHHIIIIINNNNEEEEE"

I have literally never seen that argument used.

  • 11.04.2011 9:34 AM PDT

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Posted by: Dauss
I used to win cash pot tournaments based on my play in CE and 2. I for one didn't drag out the fact like this, I was called a 'casual' because someone was upset that he couldn't argue logically so I rebuffed him.


Dude just give up..... I know I have.

It's ironic since most players that been around since CE didn't like much of the TU either and steared clear of the forums on bungie after Halo 3.


I've had no problem on the playlist. Now if ZB isn't selected, I quit out.

As far as the forums go, I lurk and then strike.

  • 11.04.2011 9:39 AM PDT

Planking : Parkour for people who don't move very fast.


Posted by: Anto91
Posted by: Dauss
You need to be added to the list.


FTFY

  • 11.04.2011 9:39 AM PDT

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Alone we are a menace, together we are a threat...
Born to raise hell, live to drop back in it...
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Posted by: Dauss
I used to win cash pot tournaments based on my play in CE and 2. I for one didn't drag out the fact like this, I was called a 'casual' because someone was upset that he couldn't argue logically so I rebuffed him.


Dude just give up..... I know I have.

It's ironic since most players that been around since CE didn't like much of the TU either and steared clear of the forums on bungie after Halo 3.


I've had no problem on the playlist. Now if ZB isn't selected, I quit out.

As far as the forums go, I lurk and then strike.


Look I'm going to be honest: there are things that I both agree with the TU and things that I don't.

You want ZB Dmr's? Fine, I either play invasion and living dead and the occasional BTB and premium battle either way.

But I think some people agree with things too fast... I mean ZB magnum, as was already depicted, overpowered the ZB Dmr... now image the three-shot magnum in Halo CEA in multiplayer with ZB. It would be a bit problematic, especially for Elites on Invasion playlists. If all playlist are going to have these changes, it may create more problematics issues...

Exemples:
- Living dead; Zombies are already underpowered, add ZB CEA Magnums and you might get more rage quits.

- Invasion; ZB CEA Magnums will DESTROY Elites since Spartans spawn with it, plus the zoom feature. (same reason as to why DMR loadouts were removed from the beginning of each Invasion game, Elites had no Counter and had to find ranged weapons as Spartans already spawned with them)

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Posted by: Dauss
I played in a local league, just not Halo 3. Halo CE and 2, the group disbanded before Halo 3 came out. But I like how quick you guys are to try and poke holes in things you can't prove, speaks volumes about your maturity.


Do you live in St. Louis area? Because my group also started to break apart when Halo 3 came out. We did a few tournaments but that's about it. I don't even think 1/5 of the group even has Reach.

  • 11.04.2011 9:52 AM PDT


Posted by: Dauss
Hate to point it out to you, Reach gun play is very similar to Halo CE. CE didn't HAVE your burst fire rifle, and it didn't need it. Burst fire rifles are really, really stupid, when they're also headshot capable. Congratulations, you can hover a cursor over the general area of a mans skull. YOU WIN.

The DMR is satisfactory because you actually have to make a headshot, not be in the general area slamming R as fast as you can and sweeping. The changes you laud as being a restoration to the franchise were not in place in Reach because they didn't work, and were removed. But tears brought them back, at least for the TU playlists.


Except in CE you had great movement speed and had to actually find the active camo instead of just spawning with it. Also, map control was more necessary because you couldn't just rely on jetpack to get you out of a controlled spawn. Also, map movement was more important to properly secure all the weapons and powerups. Also, there was no bloom on the precision weapons unless you held the trigger down, and if you did that you were retarded. Also, there was much less auto assist and bullet magnetism, so you actually had to aim. The changes made to Reach were a reaction to the vocal casual crowd, so they didn't pay attention to how their game worked with high level competition, meaning we get this inconsistent unbalanced mess.

I would say burst rifles are harder to use than a single shot rifle, since you have to keep your gun on target for the entire burst, rather than just a quick trigger pull before you take aim again. You always seem to ignore strafing in your arguments, which is just silly.


also, pacing isn't hard. If you can't pace, you probably don't walk upright yet. It adds no layer of skill, but it does add a level of inconsistency. If they implemented an element of recoil into the guns, but kept them perfectly precise, it would take a level of skill to compensate for that. Or for bullet time.

  • 11.04.2011 10:17 AM PDT
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Posted by: eRage Sanctity
Dauss, you're retarded. Developers dont change games because of people "whining". They change the game because THEY think it needs changed.

No they go by metrics. In this case 343i sided with the whiners.

  • 11.04.2011 10:40 AM PDT

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yeah dude that pistol does damage too

  • 11.04.2011 11:05 AM PDT

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Posted by: eRage Sanctity
Dauss, you're retarded. Developers dont change games because of people "whining". They change the game because THEY think it needs changed.

No they go by metrics. In this case 343i sided with the whiners.


Many of those so called "whiners" happened to be expert players.

The majority of the best Halo reach players voted against bloom and spawning with AA's for MLG. Why? Because they were implemented poorly and replace consistency and strategy with gimmicks.

  • 11.04.2011 11:24 AM PDT


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Posted by: eRage Sanctity
Its well known among good players that you need increased jump, movement, etc with no bloom.

it's still who shoots who first wins, you just have to be the one to shoot first.

Sure, if you shot 2nd and you're dumb enough to walk in a straight line.

lrn2strafe

and if your both strafing?...

Better shot wins. The point of strafing is to make your opponent miss.

Also, single shot rifle is a good idea, but not when you have massive aim assist, massive bullet magnetism, and random bloom.

  • 11.04.2011 11:35 AM PDT


Posted by: nightspark
Posted by: eRage Sanctity
Dauss, you're retarded. Developers dont change games because of people "whining". They change the game because THEY think it needs changed.

No they go by metrics. In this case 343i sided with the whiners.

So then you agree Reach was also made for whiners, right? Everyone always complained about their AR being beaten by the BR, people using camo/os, having high ground, etc. So Bungie listened to the whiners and we got Reach.

It only makes sense, right?

  • 11.04.2011 11:37 AM PDT


Posted by: Dauss
eRage: If the majority of the fanbase is crying and moaning over something that the developer feels would encourage them to convince their friends to also buy the game, they'll change it. Capitalism's a -blam!-.

Secondly, yes, zero bloom is largely 'Shoot first, win'. I think every minorly competent player in Reach can aim for the head, there's no skill gap concerning headshots because it really isn't that hard of a thing to do. Bloom increases the skill gap because you have to evaluate the risks/benefits of overfiring and make the tactical choice to shoot or not while your bloom is resetting. If you shoot and make your mark, you win the engagement. If you do, and you don't make the headshot, and your opponent opted to wait you out, looks like you're eating a lead salad. It's an effective system, and adds a bit more thought into your combat.

And if you get killed by losing that 'wait or shoot' choice? Get over it. Problem solved.


Have always agreed with this. Love humiliating DMR users with my pre-TU magnum as a result:)

  • 11.04.2011 1:04 PM PDT


Posted by: Dauss
Because age determines if a game is good or not, right?

Because yeah there's no such thing as a good game that is more then 3 years old.

Totally.

In regards to your typical 'Casual' player comment, I used to be PAID to play Halo. I just never -blam!-ed and moaned about it, because I actually like the series and treat it as something to have fun with, not cry about.


Give me some proof of that. LOl I have put in around over 200 days of gameplay sitting at around 10,000 games already. I should be allowed to give my opinion on a dumpy game like Halo Reach.

  • 11.04.2011 1:36 PM PDT


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Posted by: Dauss
Because age determines if a game is good or not, right?

Because yeah there's no such thing as a good game that is more then 3 years old.

Totally.

In regards to your typical 'Casual' player comment, I used to be PAID to play Halo. I just never -blam!-ed and moaned about it, because I actually like the series and treat it as something to have fun with, not cry about.


Give me some proof of that. LOl I have put in around over 200 days of gameplay sitting at around 10,000 games already. I should be allowed to give my opinion on a dumpy game like Halo Reach.

Nobody can criticize Reach. Its either "Why play such an awful game!!!" or "How would you know, you barely play it!"

  • 11.04.2011 1:37 PM PDT


Posted by: eRage Sanctity

Posted by: AK FROST

Posted by: Dauss
Because age determines if a game is good or not, right?

Because yeah there's no such thing as a good game that is more then 3 years old.

Totally.

In regards to your typical 'Casual' player comment, I used to be PAID to play Halo. I just never -blam!-ed and moaned about it, because I actually like the series and treat it as something to have fun with, not cry about.


Give me some proof of that. LOl I have put in around over 200 days of gameplay sitting at around 10,000 games already. I should be allowed to give my opinion on a dumpy game like Halo Reach.

Nobody can criticize Reach. Its either "Why play such an awful game!!!" or "How would you know, you barely play it!"


I wonder why I play it everyday :/ Then I think maybe one day I go on it might be good.

  • 11.04.2011 1:39 PM PDT

he defends the default reach dmr but has a negative kd with it?
NO BLOOM IN ALL PLAYLIST!!!

  • 11.04.2011 1:42 PM PDT

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