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Posted by: Dauss
eRage: If the majority of the fanbase is crying and moaning over something that the developer feels would encourage them to convince their friends to also buy the game, they'll change it. Capitalism's a -blam!-.

Secondly, yes, zero bloom is largely 'Shoot first, win'. I think every minorly competent player in Reach can aim for the head, there's no skill gap concerning headshots because it really isn't that hard of a thing to do. Bloom increases the skill gap because you have to evaluate the risks/benefits of overfiring and make the tactical choice to shoot or not while your bloom is resetting. If you shoot and make your mark, you win the engagement. If you do, and you don't make the headshot, and your opponent opted to wait you out, looks like you're eating a lead salad. It's an effective system, and adds a bit more thought into your combat.

And if you get killed by losing that 'wait or shoot' choice? Get over it. Problem solved.


I can't tell if you're trolling... You're probably not, but if you are, well done sir.

  • 11.04.2011 1:42 PM PDT

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Posted by: Dauss
Nah, you guys should have adapted when Reach came out. Bungie didn't give you the BR again for a reason, it was overpowered when it was pinpoint accurate. They gave you the DMR instead to give you a powerful weapon, that still had flaws so that it couldn't dominate the battlefield at every range. But you whined until 343 gave you a BR wannabe back in the form of zero bloom.

Also to the guy concerning the idea I 'get killed in the TU beta', I haven't and will not be participating in Zero Bloom games, as I LIKE default Reach.

lol looking at your stats, I think you should have adapted...

  • 11.04.2011 1:45 PM PDT


Posted by: con_extreme
0 bloom - who shoots who first wins.

so strafing means nothing anymore? anybody who can quick strafe can out dmr someone short to mid range, I've done it, and it's been done to me.

  • 11.04.2011 1:46 PM PDT


Posted by: Qui Gon Chim

Posted by: Dauss
Nah, you guys should have adapted when Reach came out. Bungie didn't give you the BR again for a reason, it was overpowered when it was pinpoint accurate. They gave you the DMR instead to give you a powerful weapon, that still had flaws so that it couldn't dominate the battlefield at every range. But you whined until 343 gave you a BR wannabe back in the form of zero bloom.

Also to the guy concerning the idea I 'get killed in the TU beta', I haven't and will not be participating in Zero Bloom games, as I LIKE default Reach.

lol looking at your stats, I think you should have adapted...


QFT. Did you ever figure out who Gameragerisbad yet?

  • 11.04.2011 1:46 PM PDT

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Posted by: AK FROST

Posted by: Qui Gon Chim

Posted by: Dauss
Nah, you guys should have adapted when Reach came out. Bungie didn't give you the BR again for a reason, it was overpowered when it was pinpoint accurate. They gave you the DMR instead to give you a powerful weapon, that still had flaws so that it couldn't dominate the battlefield at every range. But you whined until 343 gave you a BR wannabe back in the form of zero bloom.

Also to the guy concerning the idea I 'get killed in the TU beta', I haven't and will not be participating in Zero Bloom games, as I LIKE default Reach.

lol looking at your stats, I think you should have adapted...


QFT. Did you ever figure out who Gameragerisbad yet?

lol no, if you know TELL ME. Is it you?? Now I have a feeling it is you because that is a pretty random comment if it is not you. I totally forgot about that.

Actually, since you don't have a linked tag I don't even know who you are outside of the private groups

[Edited on 11.04.2011 1:50 PM PDT]

  • 11.04.2011 1:49 PM PDT
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Banned just for calling someone retarded? lolBnet mods
Duardo = retard

So you think Reach is an actual Halo game, huh? LOL
Jesus! There's a BoB in ma Falcon!

Oh look,
Another thread about an overused topic...

  • 11.04.2011 1:51 PM PDT

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I really like how 343i has done with the TU, but simply I don't find a answer of why 343i wants to keep AL.

2. Shields takes forever still to recharge.

3. Still too slow, spartan are still fat.

  • 11.04.2011 1:52 PM PDT


Posted by: eRage Sanctity
Dauss, you're retarded. Developers dont change games because of people "whining". They change the game because THEY think it needs changed.

Dauss isn't -blam!- retarded; you are. The developers wouldn't even EXIST if it wasn't for the players that buy the game. So you are wrong, the developer changes the game because the people who PAY THEM MONEY want the game to be changed.

  • 11.04.2011 1:54 PM PDT


Posted by: Dauss
I can't even bring myself to play ANY Reach after the TU, just knowing it caved to the whiners is enough to put me off it.


Shut up retard

  • 11.04.2011 2:04 PM PDT

Frank O'Connor said he doesn't think the Halo series needs to be taken in a radical new direction... it just needs to go "deeper"

"Ultimately the core game mechanic and strength of the universe doesn't need to be changed, it just needs to be taken deeper. We want to make Halo games - we don't want to make Call of Duty or Ridge Racer. We want to make Halo games because we understand what's special about Halo."

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Posted by: eRage Sanctity
Its well known among good players that you need increased jump, movement, etc with no bloom.

it's still who shoots who first wins, you just have to be the one to shoot first.

Do you know how to strafe?

If you do, then you wouldn't be saying this.

120% speed and 200% gravity is the way to go.

[Edited on 11.04.2011 2:14 PM PDT]

  • 11.04.2011 2:14 PM PDT


Posted by: VariableFactor

Posted by: eRage Sanctity
Dauss, you're retarded. Developers dont change games because of people "whining". They change the game because THEY think it needs changed.

Dauss isn't -blam!- retarded; you are. The developers wouldn't even EXIST if it wasn't for the players that buy the game. So you are wrong, the developer changes the game because the people who PAY THEM MONEY want the game to be changed.

So they listen to the vocal minority? Because majority of people apparently dont want it changed, so why didnt they listen to you all?

  • 11.04.2011 2:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: eRage Sanctity

Posted by: nightspark
Posted by: eRage Sanctity
Dauss, you're retarded. Developers dont change games because of people "whining". They change the game because THEY think it needs changed.

No they go by metrics. In this case 343i sided with the whiners.

So then you agree Reach was also made for whiners, right? Everyone always complained about their AR being beaten by the BR, people using camo/os, having high ground, etc. So Bungie listened to the whiners and we got Reach.

It only makes sense, right?

Are you trying to say the AR can beat the DMR.

  • 11.04.2011 2:29 PM PDT


Posted by: nightspark

Posted by: eRage Sanctity

Posted by: nightspark
Posted by: eRage Sanctity
Dauss, you're retarded. Developers dont change games because of people "whining". They change the game because THEY think it needs changed.

No they go by metrics. In this case 343i sided with the whiners.

So then you agree Reach was also made for whiners, right? Everyone always complained about their AR being beaten by the BR, people using camo/os, having high ground, etc. So Bungie listened to the whiners and we got Reach.

It only makes sense, right?

Are you trying to say the AR can beat the DMR.


Yes it can. But what makes it even better is the fact that the DMR is so easy to use that a 10 year old can get a spammed 5 shot or just body shot the hell out of anyone because of bloom.


DERP WELL WE WONT BUFF THE AR, WE'LL JUST MAKE THE PRECISION WEAPON HAVE A SMALLER SKILL GAP

  • 11.04.2011 2:32 PM PDT
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My Level. Get on it.


Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.


Posted by: Dauss


I'm baffled by your stupidity.
I'm in shock.

How do you even remember to breathe?

  • 11.04.2011 2:42 PM PDT

Planking : Parkour for people who don't move very fast.


Posted by: eRage Sanctity

Posted by: AK FROST

Posted by: Dauss
Because age determines if a game is good or not, right?

Because yeah there's no such thing as a good game that is more then 3 years old.

Totally.

In regards to your typical 'Casual' player comment, I used to be PAID to play Halo. I just never -blam!-ed and moaned about it, because I actually like the series and treat it as something to have fun with, not cry about.


Give me some proof of that. LOl I have put in around over 200 days of gameplay sitting at around 10,000 games already. I should be allowed to give my opinion on a dumpy game like Halo Reach.

Nobody can criticize Reach. Its either "Why play such an awful game!!!" or "How would you know, you barely play it!"


As much as I have seen you -blam!- and moan about Reach, of course I am going to wonder why you play it. In another thread you said that you don't play Halo 3 because of -blam!- netcode. So you'd rather play what you deem to be a completely broken game then one that is a little laggy? When I was a kid, I ran my hand over a cheese grater. It was not a pleasant experience. I never did it again. You played Reach, had an unpleasant experience, dislike it, whine about it, and you KEEP playing it. Makes sense to wonder if you are right in the head.

  • 11.04.2011 3:08 PM PDT


Posted by: Dauss
"WE WANT THE DMR TO BE THE ONLY WEAPON WORTH USING! WE'RE TIRED OF BEING KILLED BY PLAYERS WITH THE ASSAULT RIFLE, IT SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO KILL ANYTHING! I'M TIRED OF HAVING TO PACE MY SHOTS BECAUSE I HAVE THE ATTENTION SPAN OF A 4 YEAR OLD! WWWWHHHIIIIINNNNEEEEE"


...and this is an example of what's wrong with Halo. Idiots like this.

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  • 11.04.2011 3:31 PM PDT

I love people who refuse to control their bloom:)

  • 11.09.2011 2:54 PM PDT

all you gamers with your acronyms. what the H E L L does TU stand for??

  • 11.09.2011 2:59 PM PDT
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GrownPrism is NOT my gt. Happened when signing into my xbox live account. My real gt is here:

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/Default.aspx?player=SYNTHES lS&sg=0


Posted by: diluted but pure
I love people who refuse to control their bloom:)


I can guarentee I can control it fine. That isn't the problem. The problem is when I am "controlling" it the way it's "intented" I can still be killed by a spammer just because of luck. Luck should NEVER factor into video games.

  • 11.09.2011 3:10 PM PDT

R.I.P. Halo 2 <33333333
Do not play halo much anymore. Barely ever come on here.

God i hate the community on Halo so much.

  • 11.09.2011 3:16 PM PDT

Title Update :)

  • 12.06.2011 9:31 AM PDT


Posted by: CaptKrunch 96

Posted by: diluted but pure
I love people who refuse to control their bloom:)


I can guarentee I can control it fine. That isn't the problem. The problem is when I am "controlling" it the way it's "intented" I can still be killed by a spammer just because of luck. Luck should NEVER factor into video games.



It does in plenty of ways, but the key point of bloom is that your shots don't always land where you want them, but sometimes do. A spammer's lifestyle is to hope, and maybe be rewarded. Just know it's easier for you to sleep at night, haha. And that you have a far greater accuracy percentage than he/she does:)

  • 12.06.2011 9:34 AM PDT

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