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Subject: ODST Invasion development thread


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Posted by: Zarth111
OHHHH NOOOO.

omg kid please go back up your moms butt
WHA- HUH? WUT?

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  • 11.07.2011 5:21 PM PDT

Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
It's called reverse core cause you're taking it into enemy territory instead of out of it. I believe I was the first to do it on an Invasion map last October.

Idk about blowing up an exit, but bomb might have to be the final objective regardless. It's either that or a holdout territory, which is like capturing an LZ.

Ah well in that case what I said doesn't make sense. I was thinking for a holdout territory it could be just one with a longer capture time. But I remembered your territories at the beginning were already longer than usual, I think, so this one would have to be even longer.

You would have to work at it so that it is feasible since one territory means both teams will be crowded there. Capturing an LZ would require a flat, open area, which would make taking out the offensive team too easy. Assuming defense is semi-competent at the very least. I think it would take some time to balance it. So I'd make it take place in or around some sort of structure, although I don't know how that would work if your trying to make sense out of the mission.

"Alright men, drop in, secure the area and then take the core (which could represent any device ie jammer, nuke, etc.) into the enemy base and proceed to capture it"

Wut?

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  • 11.07.2011 5:22 PM PDT

Posted by: cossta is bad
Beirut?

  • 11.07.2011 5:33 PM PDT

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Posted by: ANCIENTZOIDIAN

"Alright men, drop in, secure the area and then take the core (which could represent any device ie jammer, nuke, etc.) into the enemy base and proceed to capture it"

Wut?


For reverse core we consider it a battery. We're either powering open a gate/bridge or the superintendent.

  • 11.07.2011 5:35 PM PDT

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  • 11.07.2011 5:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
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What.

  • 11.07.2011 5:42 PM PDT

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Posted by: RC Clone
Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
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What.


Browser lagged and it double posted.

The thing with reverse core is that it's an escort mission, like VIP. Your core carrier is pretty much defenseless unless he drops the core. The other 5 dudes on your team have to clear the way and check for snipers, etc. It'll add some tactics to the mix. The tricky part is coming up with routes for them to take. I have to decide if I want the core route to be predictable, or if I want them to have more than 1 choice. If it's predictable, it kinda takes emphasis off of the escort part, since the Elites will know that he's going there with the core anyway.

All this is part of the design, which is why it's taken over a year to build. It has to be just right. If my forge buddies still played this map would have been finished in June.

  • 11.07.2011 5:45 PM PDT

Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
I have to decide if I want the core route to be predictable, or if I want them to have more than 1 choice.
Many routes add versatility and replayability to the map.

  • 11.07.2011 5:48 PM PDT

And some of those routes should be at different elevations. You could even have some sections higher up with a good view of a few of the other routes so that one could go and provide cover and what not.

  • 11.07.2011 5:52 PM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
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Posted by: Chief Bigwig
Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
I have to decide if I want the core route to be predictable, or if I want them to have more than 1 choice.
Many routes add versatility and replayability to the map.

Unless one has an overwhelming number of advantages over the other routes.

  • 11.07.2011 5:55 PM PDT

Posted by: RC Clone
Unless one has an overwhelming number of advantages over the other routes.
I assumed that goat can balance each route with advantages and disadvantages.

  • 11.07.2011 5:56 PM PDT

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Posted by: Chief Bigwig
Posted by: RC Clone
Unless one has an overwhelming number of advantages over the other routes.
I assumed that goat can balance each route with advantages and disadvantages.


Shouldn't be a problem. Just have to make sure whatever I do is within budget.

  • 11.07.2011 6:01 PM PDT


Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat

Posted by: Chief Bigwig
Posted by: RC Clone
Unless one has an overwhelming number of advantages over the other routes.
I assumed that goat can balance each route with advantages and disadvantages.


Shouldn't be a problem. Just have to make sure whatever I do is within budget.

Damn this economy!

  • 11.07.2011 6:13 PM PDT
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When we gonna see a sneak peak? I'm really anxious to play on a good Invasion map, and you make the best so I know it wont disappoint :)

  • 11.08.2011 4:11 AM PDT

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Posted by: Vespera34
When we gonna see a sneak peak? I'm really anxious to play on a good Invasion map, and you make the best so I know it wont disappoint :)


Gimme an hour or two and I'll have a brief walkthrough of the new version up.

  • 11.08.2011 6:42 AM PDT

No, you can't haz

What loadouts are you going to have?

  • 11.08.2011 7:27 AM PDT

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I'm not sure about loadouts yet, but the first two are gonna be constant throughout. I'm gonna try DMR and NR as starting weapons with no secondary and 1 grenade. Their AAs will be sprint and evade respectively. Along with this, there will be AR/Magnum with Sprint and PR/PP with Evade. Elites also get a third Camo loadout in the first phase.

Once I've tested it I'll adjust it accordingly. But for the most part you can spawn with precision if you want, and players will only have 1 grenade. So don't waste it on your teammates warthog!

  • 11.08.2011 8:52 AM PDT
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omg you failures are still posting on this fail thread

  • 11.08.2011 11:08 AM PDT
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Posted by: cossta is bad
omg you failures are still posting on this fail thread

  • 11.08.2011 11:18 AM PDT

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I'm playing Invasion now and I'm baffled at how Bungie thought it would be a good idea to give you just a needler as elites.

I'll be changing that. Maybe throw in Spiker/Repeater combo or Spiker/PR. Something that can kill on its own and keep some good ammo.

  • 11.08.2011 1:07 PM PDT

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Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
I'm playing Invasion now and I'm baffled at how Bungie thought it would be a good idea to give you just a needler as elites.

I'll be changing that. Maybe throw in Spiker/Repeater combo or Spiker/PR. Something that can kill on its own and keep some good ammo.
Using just a needler combined with camo is more for tacticts. It wasn't designed to be a get hella kills loadout

  • 11.08.2011 1:22 PM PDT

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Posted by: superduper66

Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
I'm playing Invasion now and I'm baffled at how Bungie thought it would be a good idea to give you just a needler as elites.

I'll be changing that. Maybe throw in Spiker/Repeater combo or Spiker/PR. Something that can kill on its own and keep some good ammo.
Using just a needler combined with camo is more for tacticts. It wasn't designed to be a get hella kills loadout


There's no tactics when you're on hemmorhage walking around in camo with an empty needler.

[Edited on 11.08.2011 1:25 PM PST]

  • 11.08.2011 1:23 PM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
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Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
Posted by: superduper66
Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
I'm playing Invasion now and I'm baffled at how Bungie thought it would be a good idea to give you just a needler as elites.

I'll be changing that. Maybe throw in Spiker/Repeater combo or Spiker/PR. Something that can kill on its own and keep some good ammo.

Using just a needler combined with camo is more for tacticts. It wasn't designed to be a get hella kills loadout

There's no tactics when you're on hemmorhage walking around in camo with an empty needler.

Congratulations on using the least flexible loadout and living long enough to run out of ammo.

How's the map coming?

  • 11.08.2011 1:54 PM PDT

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Posted by: RC Clone
Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
Posted by: superduper66
Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
I'm playing Invasion now and I'm baffled at how Bungie thought it would be a good idea to give you just a needler as elites.

I'll be changing that. Maybe throw in Spiker/Repeater combo or Spiker/PR. Something that can kill on its own and keep some good ammo.

Using just a needler combined with camo is more for tacticts. It wasn't designed to be a get hella kills loadout

There's no tactics when you're on hemmorhage walking around in camo with an empty needler.

Congratulations on using the least flexible loadout and living long enough to run out of ammo.

How's the map coming?


I think I put a 10 minute walkthrough on my fileshare. I was gonna attach informational dialog on it and put it on youtube for feedback. I don't have render minutes though.

[Edited on 11.08.2011 2:00 PM PST]

  • 11.08.2011 1:59 PM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

Posted by: SouthPoIe
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Posted by: DerpRoids
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Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
I think I put a 10 minute walkthrough on my fileshare. I was gonna attach informational dialog on it and put it on youtube for feedback. I don't have render minutes though.

There was a free render thread on the front page a few minutes ago.

Edit

Never mind. 1 minute cap on videos.

[Edited on 11.08.2011 2:04 PM PST]

  • 11.08.2011 2:02 PM PDT