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Posted by: Milky Bravo
it took a year 2 build that?


No, obviously. It took 2 hours to build the map listed in the OP. It took over a year to develop the aesthetic and layout, both of which are still not yet complete.

It's taking a long time because I don't want to make any mistakes. I'll scrap any design even if there's only one flaw. I've gone through hundreds of sheets of paper drafting up layouts, and although I haven't gotten the perfect one, each version gets me closer to it.

EDIT: Also, there are over 60 unique versions of this map on my HDD. The one in the OP is the latest out of them all.


[Edited on 11.13.2011 4:17 AM PST]

  • 11.13.2011 4:15 AM PDT

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Posted by: Vespera34
How's the layout coming? I'm anxious to play this.


Still designing :( Now I'm having trouble with Elite spawns >.>

  • 11.13.2011 4:29 AM PDT
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Posted by: Milky Bravo
it took a year 2 build that?


I don't think Goat is that slow of a forger :P

  • 11.13.2011 4:38 AM PDT

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Here are the obstacles that I've faced for the last year

1. No room to spawn attackers/defenders. This is usually noticed when I'm building and the budget starts to get low. It's hard to determine spawns when you're drawing it on paper because you don't see LoS blockersk as obvious.

2. Vehicle friendly. A friend of mine told me that a vehicle needs to be able to drive around in a circle on your map. If I was building this strictly for infantry play, then I wouldn't have a problem with this. However, because I'm going to incorporate mongooses and ghosts, I need to make sure there's a circular path in the map so players can drive around without having to stop and make u-turns at dead ends

3. Budget. This usually means I've spent too much on phase 1 and I'm starting to run out of what I'll need for the latter phases.



This whole thing is trial and error until I find the right design.

  • 11.13.2011 4:59 AM PDT

No, you can't haz

Have you thought of a third phase yet?

  • 11.13.2011 8:38 AM PDT

Posted by: Lord Pyro
I play for fun and armory completion. :)

lol @ save this thread, why don't you just ask them to make it a top forum topic?

  • 11.13.2011 8:41 AM PDT

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Posted by: Cycle22
lol @ save this thread, why don't you just ask them to make it a top forum topic?


It already is a TFT. I asked players to save it so they know when to come back for testing.

  • 11.13.2011 8:42 AM PDT

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I'm trying to stay away from glitched canvases. otherwise I wont be able to fileshare it.

  • 11.13.2011 8:54 AM PDT

No, you can't haz

Don't mod anything I wanna see this in MM

  • 11.13.2011 1:18 PM PDT

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That's if 343 is still integrating community maps, which is unlikely... :/

  • 11.13.2011 1:46 PM PDT
Subject: ODST Invasion walkthrough (save this thread)

No, you can't haz

They might not have a problem integrating yours since it's an Invasion map. We need more Invasion maps.

  • 11.13.2011 2:19 PM PDT
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Invasion is 4 way splitscreen. I doubt this map will be able to support that :/

  • 11.13.2011 2:38 PM PDT

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The map isn't built yet... >.>

  • 11.13.2011 5:25 PM PDT

Is it ready yet? Is it ready yet? Is it ready yet?

  • 11.13.2011 5:40 PM PDT

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Posted by: ThreeSixXero
Is it ready yet? Is it ready yet? Is it ready yet?


unfortunately, no. i'm very frustrated right now. been working nonstop on this for 2 weeks and I still don't have anything to show for it. i made two really great designs today; however, both of them would require the 99 wall canvas, and that means drag and drop for 3 hours. And then I can't even fileshare it because it's modded.

Honestly, I'm so close to just giving up and waiting to forge a 4v4 map on Timberlands. This whole ODST thing just isn't working out. It's been a year and I still haven't managed to get it to work.

  • 11.13.2011 5:43 PM PDT

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If any of the following things is missing, I can't use the design:

1. Money Shot
2. Immersion
3. Adrenaline first phase
4. multiple core routes
5. Oliphant
6. ODST aesthetic
7. Balanced spawns

I keep messing up 1, 4, and 7, and it seems like if I were to focus solely on those I'd mess up number 2.

It's just far too complex for the forge engine.

  • 11.13.2011 5:47 PM PDT
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goat screw the playlist and just make the map. reach is dead anyway

  • 11.13.2011 6:08 PM PDT

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Posted by: Lightr Than Some
goat screw the playlist and just make the map. reach is dead anyway


sigh fine. glitched canvas it is.

-blam!-

  • 11.13.2011 6:32 PM PDT

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I built phase 1 on the glitched canvas and I'm now down to 50 walls left >.>

Phase 1 is taking up all the budget in these designs because it has to set the tone for the rest of the match. Still, it doesn't look like I'll be able to do this with even 100 walls. My design is too elaborate.

I need to somehow simplify it while still keeping immersion, accommodating 12 players, and providing that gameplay experience I want.

I can do it. I just don't have the resources. And I'm not going to use the 500 wall canvas. It's bad enough I have to use 100.

  • 11.13.2011 7:08 PM PDT

Please don't hype for games...
They'll just fall short of your expectations and you'll complain for months.

Could you use other items to replace the walls without altering gameplay?

  • 11.13.2011 7:20 PM PDT

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Posted by: Alpha00
Could you use other items to replace the walls without altering gameplay?


some of the walls will be replaced by brace larges and blocks. i'm having a much more serious roadblock than that.

  • 11.13.2011 7:31 PM PDT
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Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
I can do it. I just don't have the resources. And I'm not going to use the 500 wall canvas. It's bad enough I have to use 100.

Me right now.

  • 11.13.2011 7:34 PM PDT

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I might just pick up the forerunner Invasion idea and build that on timberlands. I'm having no luck with this map on forge world at all. It's not even funny how many roadblocks i've hit for me to have to redesign it 3 times a day.

  • 11.13.2011 7:38 PM PDT