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Posted by: Lightr Than Some

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Posted by: Lightr Than Some
Like I said, when it comes to Invasion goat is the only person who knows what he's doing.

Absolutely, Bungie have nothing on Goat.

Time for your meds bro.


There's no need to be sarcastic. Bungie's Invasion sucks and you know it. Quit picking on the OP for everything.

Do you have brain damage?

Are you honestly telling me that the creators of Invasion know less about Invasion, than a whiny kid who does nothing but complain about the game he can't stop playing (to garner attention from randies on the internet), whilst being so inept at the game he claims to know so much about that he has to get carried past being a Staff Captain?

Is that what you arte honestly telling me? If so then me being sarcastic should be the absolute least of your worries.

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Posted by: Every 7th Bullet
the creators of Invasion


Rest of your post is irrelevant because of this line. Let's look at an earlier post from Goat:

Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat

I'm not building for "bungie's style" of Invasion. I'm not starting players with low-tier weapons. I'm not spawning attackers out in the open. I'm not making the slow-paced, unbalanced crawl of gameplay. I'm not giving Spartans Shotguns and Armor Lock.

I'm not building the standard Invasion experience, so forget everything you know about Invasion. I'm building a faster-paced, balanced, and innovative experience to not only compete with Bungie's Invasion, but to also set the example of what Invasion could be should designers break away from the stereotype


Goat knows exactly what he's doing. And your trolling is outdated. Nobody cares about Halo 3 rank in the Reach forum.

For somebody who's 29, you sure are into childish behaviors.

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Posted by: Lightr Than Some
Goat knows exactly what he's doing.

So you definitely have brain damage then, I am glad we cleared that up.

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Don't look behind you


Posted by: Every 7th Bullet

Posted by: Lightr Than Some
Goat knows exactly what he's doing.

So you definitely have brain damage then, I am glad we cleared that up.


lol I'm not a fan of this Goat kid either, but damn you are a complete phag. Obviously you do care enough to be picking on Goat for a year now. Lay it to rest--you can't even properly troll anymore.

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Posted by: Every 7th Bullet
So you definitely have brain damage then, I am glad we cleared that up.


Posted by: Lightr Than Some
For somebody who's 29, you sure are into childish behaviors.


Read it again and again and again, because you are too immature to comprehend a simple post. Get over your love affair with Goat and get out of his threads. Nobody likes a conceited bully.

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Posted by: Lightr Than Some

Posted by: Every 7th Bullet
the creators of Invasion


Rest of your post is irrelevant because of this line. Let's look at an earlier post from Goat:

Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat

I'm not building for "bungie's style" of Invasion. I'm not starting players with low-tier weapons. I'm not spawning attackers out in the open. I'm not making the slow-paced, unbalanced crawl of gameplay. I'm not giving Spartans Shotguns and Armor Lock.

I'm not building the standard Invasion experience, so forget everything you know about Invasion. I'm building a faster-paced, balanced, and innovative experience to not only compete with Bungie's Invasion, but to also set the example of what Invasion could be should designers break away from the stereotype


Goat knows exactly what he's doing.


I see where you've gone wrong, you actually believe Goat's bull-blam!-.

It's all just words on a screen fella, he has never done anything Halo/Forge related that is worthy of note in the grand scheme of things (unlike Bungie). Admittedly he talks a good game yet that's all he is. Nothing but talk.

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  • 11.24.2011 7:38 AM PDT

No, you can't haz

Goat I have a kinda complicated question to ask you:

What were you going on about with Phase style in an earlier thread? What does that mean exactly? I'm curious because when my bro and I build Invasion we try to make it faster paced, but it just ends up in a stalemate.

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Posted by: iRuN KFC
It's all just words on a screen fella, he has never done anything Halo/Forge related that is worthy of note in the grand scheme of things (unlike Bungie). Admittedly he talks a good game yet that's all he is. Nothing but talk.


That's where you've got it wrong. Goat's proven his expertise in his own style of Invasion several times, and last I checked he had a guide in the works. He's already helped a lot of people build their maps and they can testify to his advice.

Don't take my word for it though. I'm not here to sell Goat; conversely, I don't want to see him being attacked with outdated talk either.

Just wait and see. I've had a glimpse of his current WIP and it's already better than anything Bungie's done with Invasion. You and your bud are just too caught up in Goat's attitude to notice.

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Goat I have a kinda complicated question to ask you:

What were you going on about with Phase style in an earlier thread? What does that mean exactly? I'm curious because when my bro and I build Invasion we try to make it faster paced, but it just ends up in a stalemate.



I'll send you a PM explaining it.

  • 11.24.2011 7:48 AM PDT
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Here you go

Now tell me that everything said in that thread is 'just talk'. He doesn't need to have a map in matchmaking with 8000 downloads to share that knowledge.

  • 11.24.2011 7:56 AM PDT


Posted by: Lightr Than Some
I've had a glimpse of his current WIP and it's already better than anything Bungie's done with Invasion.

Is this forum now a window licking convention?

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Posted by: Every 7th Bullet

Posted by: Lightr Than Some
I've had a glimpse of his current WIP and it's already better than anything Bungie's done with Invasion.

Is this forum now a window licking convention?


I can't wait to see the smartass rubbed out of you when you are proven wrong.

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Posted by: Lightr Than Some
That's where you've got it wrong. Goat's proven his expertise in his own style of Invasion several times, and last I checked he had a guide in the works. He's already helped a lot of people build their maps and they can testify to his advice.


We obviously have a different idea of what having "proven his expertise" entails, my friend. Let's just agree to disagree, eh?

Also, as it's relevant, I'd sum up Goat's advice as falling with the defintion of "In the kingdom of the blind the one eyed man is king".

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Posted by: Lightr Than Some
last I checked he had a guide in the works.



...I was supposed to finish that in June

>.>

<.<

I'll work on it when this map is done. I needed one to use as an example, and Battery wasn't happening the way I wanted it.

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Posted by: Every 7th Bullet

Do you have brain damage?

Are you honestly telling me that the creators of Invasion know less about Invasion, than a whiny kid..... [Mindless ranting]
I don't see the problem with thinking that. Yes, Bungie put in the custom invasion settings, and yes, they created default Invasion, and the idea of Invasion itself. But that doesn't mean they can put their knowledge to good use when creating gametypes/maps.

Bungie might know all the custom options and how to get Invasion to work. But what they don't know is how to use their knowlege of Invasion for creating fun maps and gametypes. If Goat can create better Invasion maps than Bungie can, whoever created Invasion in the first place is irrelevant. We were given these custom options to expand on Bungie's gametypes and improve upon Bungie's ideas.

If Bungie knew as much about Invasion as you say, they sure haven't shown it. None of their Invasion creations have been the slightest bit unique or interesting

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Posted by: Niner

He's just gonna find a loophole in your post and spin it around some way to attack Goat again.

  • 11.24.2011 8:29 AM PDT


Posted by: Lightr Than Some

Posted by: Niner

He's just gonna find a loophole in your post and spin it around some way to attack Goat again.


Yes, his post was bollocks.

Thumbless dialling wand users strike again...

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Posted by: Every 7th Bullet

Posted by: Lightr Than Some

Posted by: Niner

He's just gonna find a loophole in your post and spin it around some way to attack Goat again.


Yes, his post was bollocks.

Thumbless dialling wand users strike again...


It's amusing how you resort to witty insults when faced with a logical post. In the end you end up contradicting the very values you have. You do realize you're supporting Bungie's Invasion simply because you don't like Goat? Any intelligent player knows what's wrong with Bungie's Invasion, and yet here you are supporting it because "they made it", therefore it must be good right? Because everything Bungie does is golden right?

You should leave now before you warp space and time

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Posted by: Lightr Than Some

Posted by: Every 7th Bullet

Posted by: Lightr Than Some

Posted by: Niner

He's just gonna find a loophole in your post and spin it around some way to attack Goat again.


Yes, his post was bollocks.

Thumbless dialling wand users strike again...


It's amusing how you resort to witty insults when faced with a logical post. In the end you end up contradicting the very values you have. You do realize you're supporting Bungie's Invasion simply because you don't like Goat? Any intelligent player knows what's wrong with Bungie's Invasion, and yet here you are supporting it because "they made it", therefore it must be good right?

You should leave now before you warp space and time


There was nothing logical about Niner's post. It essentially consisted of "Wah wah wah I've played Bungie's games for years yet they know nothing whilst some kid on the internet, who's slightly less spasticated than I am, is a forging savant despite never having made a map that's enjoyed by more than a handful of people!".

As I said above Goat appears to know a lot compared to credulous fools on BNet as they know even less.

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Posted by: Every 7th Bullet

Posted by: Lightr Than Some

Posted by: Niner

He's just gonna find a loophole in your post and spin it around some way to attack Goat again.


Yes, his post was bollocks.

Thumbless dialling wand users strike again...
You know what, have it your way. Arguing with you is a waste of time.

All that I will further say is that if it was anyone but goat posting this, you wouldn't see a problem and you know it. Your problems are never with idea, they're always with the person posting them. I can see you have changed one bit :/

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Posted by: iRuN KFC

Both you and bullet have still avoided the question underlying this whole thing:

Do you realize what is wrong with Bungie's Invasion?

Since you're both intelligent you should be able to answer this with "yes". I'd also imagine that you'll be able to list all the issues with Bungie's Invasion, correct?

Good. Then that puts you both on the same level of understand Goat is on. He knows what's wrong. You know what's wrong. He's trying to fix it. You're trying to discourage him.

What's wrong here? Let's rewind again. You all know what's wrong with Invasion, but you don't think Goat is should be fixing it because....there's nothing wrong with Invasion?

Whoa wait a second--there's nothing wrong with Invasion right? Cause that's what you both are telling me. You implying that Bungie's Invasion is golden and that Goat can't make it better.

You're selling everyone short because you don't like Goat. That's all you've managed to say since you both derailed the thread.

EDIT: Niner just said the same thing. Instead of discussing the idea, you're both discussing Goat. Maybe you two aren't intelligent after all.

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Posted by: Lightr Than Some


No what I'm saying (and I'm sure DOOM is too) is that despite what Bungie have done wrong, or what they could've done better, I have seen nothing to suggest Goat could actually solve any of these problems apart from the empty words he spews on BNet.

Basically, despite all their faults, Bungie>>>>>>>>>>Goat :)

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Posted by: iRuN KFC

There was nothing logical about Niner's post. It essentially consisted of "Wah wah wah I've played Bungie's games for years yet they know nothing
I never said that. I simply don't believe that Bungie is that great with Invasion gametypes/maps. No where did I say that this goes for every other part of Halo as well
whilst some kid on the internet, who's slightly less spasticated than I am, is a forging savant despite never having made a map that's enjoyed by more than a handful of people!".Clearly you didn't comprehend my post all that well. I didn't ever say that Goat knew more about invasion than Bungie (I've never played his Invasion maps before so how could I judge?). I said that Bungie wasn't that great with Invasion so IF Goat was better with it, it would mean that he knows more about it than Bungie.

You're confusing me saying "Bungie is bad with Invasion" with saying "Goat is better than Bungie". IF Goat can create Invasion gametypes/maps that are more fun and show a greater knowledge of how to work the gametype properly, I'd have to say he knows more about it than Bungie does. Having never played his maps though, I'm not going to decide that just yet. For all I know, Bungie's mediocre-at-best gametypes could be better than Goat's. You're jsut putting words in my mouth.

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Posted by: Lightr Than Some


No what I'm saying (and I'm sure DOOM is too) is that despite what Bungie have done wrong, or what could they could've done better, I have seen nothing to suggest Goat could actually solve any of these problems apart from the empty words he spews on BNet.

Basically, despite all their faults, Bungie>>>>>>>>>>Goat :)
You are right that they are just words on bnet with no backing behind them that they will fix default Invasion's faults. But at least wait until you try some of his maps when they're done before you judge.

I realize that the solutions Goat has have not yet been proven to make things better. You're right about that. But give them a chance to be used before you claim they will not be better than bungie's. I don't claim that they are better before having tried them out. That means you should not be claiming they are worse before trying them out either

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Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

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Clone is an internet God.

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RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.

So what I get from this argument is, you guys hate Goat because he's actually doing something about his displeasure with default invasion. When you were content to complain and do nothing.

Correct?

[Edited on 11.24.2011 9:33 AM PST]

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