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Posted by: Horse Repairman
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Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
WOW OP the map looks great! BTW how long has it tooken you to make it?

That map in the OP was scrapped a month ago. Now he's just drawing layouts.

  • 12.26.2011 8:32 PM PDT

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Posted by: RC Clone
That map in the OP was scrapped a month ago. Now he's just drawing layouts.


The maps in the OP were experimental concepts. The first one was testing a dual street and a neutral building. The second one was testing the drop and a wider design to the phase.

I only drawing cause I forged a lot already without any concepts. Spontaneous forging is good but if I want to finish I'll need a blueprint.


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Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
WOW OP the map looks great! BTW how long has it tooken you to make it?


The current layout only took a few hours to draw. I've been designing blueprints since October 2010 and building minimaps and concepts to test out different aesthetics and gameplay elements.

I'm gonna start building in 6-8 hours time from now. That should give me time to dream about Phase 3. The reason the layout takes so long is usually because I spend most of the time staring at it trying to imagine what it'd look like. I literally spent days doing just that--day dreaming about the layout. I can build and draw any layout if I have a picture for concept. This layout uses this picture as concept for phase 1. The trick then is coming up with Phase 3 and merging it with this. Right now I'm trying to make a tank-friendly layout. Once that's done I can decide on the objectives. I have to incorporate the Oliphant in some way.

When it's done you'll hopefully be able to see and appreciate why I went through such a hassle to build. I know everyone's anxious to play it--I am too.

Once again, building is the easy part. The next hardest would be budgeting, and then the most difficult is what I'm doing now--designing the map. There's only so much I can do from a top-down view



[Edited on 12.26.2011 8:45 PM PST]

  • 12.26.2011 8:40 PM PDT

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lol I've gotten so used to blueprinting now that I can throw together a design in 15 minutes.

Blueprinting is very important when building a map from scratch. I'm trying my best but I still keep messing up on spawning. Elites seem too far away from each other, which could make defense very difficult for phase 1. Should it be that way? I mean, Attackers should get phase 1 80% of the time. However, defenders should still have a chance to skunk them.

There's a delicate balance that I need to find. If I make Defenders too strong, Attackers could be held at their spawns. Conversely, if I make Defenders too weak by splitting them up too much, Attackers could bombard them to no end, and even possibly spawn-kill them.

Though I'd prefer not to, I'm just going to build what I have and see where it goes. Maybe the spawns will work out, or maybe they wont. All that's left for testing. The good news is Defenders have high ground, so if they are short a player or two it should give them a slight advantage. Again, I'm thinking about players quitting if it ends up in MM. I don't want it to be too easy to capture the territories if Defenders are down a player or two. If it's 3v6 there's no chance.

The good news is this probably means either an abundance of DMRs and NRs as pickups, or off of spawn in loadouts. This way Defenders don't have crappy weapons to disadvantage them

The map is 90% quit-proof for Attackers if they're down 1 or 2 players. Again, 3v6 isn't happening.


[Edited on 12.27.2011 8:33 AM PST]

  • 12.27.2011 8:25 AM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
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Posted by: SouthPoIe
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Posted by: DerpRoids
RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.

Why not make mock scenarios and let people test preliminary layouts to see what happens?

  • 12.27.2011 10:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: RC Clone
Why not make mock scenarios and let people test preliminary layouts to see what happens?


Did all that already. That's actually what I've mainly been doing since last October. I'd build different parts of the ODST city and then test everything from aesthetics to gameplay elements. That's why I know the black forced color will work and not be confusing as some initially perceive.

  • 12.28.2011 8:31 AM PDT

Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
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get nopescoped

  • 12.28.2011 9:32 AM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
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Posted by: SouthPoIe
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Posted by: DerpRoids
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Posted by: SkyFighta65
get nopescoped

nopescoped?

  • 12.28.2011 9:33 AM PDT

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Posted by: RC Clone

Posted by: SkyFighta65
get nopescoped

nopescoped?


coined by me, thank you very much.

  • 12.28.2011 9:34 AM PDT

Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
Goat was famous. Irie was infamous. Gh0st was FaMaS.

lol rc you're out of the loop

  • 12.28.2011 9:44 AM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
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Posted by: SkyFighta65
get nopescoped

nopescoped?


coined by me, thank you very much.


I've only gotten to lag out of one game with you so far. How should I know?

  • 12.28.2011 9:45 AM PDT

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Just picked up my capture card :D Now the only thing left to do is test the map. Can't wait to get that over with so I can make the video. The promo film is what I'm looking forward to most. I already have a storyboard laid out.

Testing tomorrow evening (friday), and I mean it RC Clone/Bazza

[Edited on 12.29.2011 4:36 PM PST]

  • 12.29.2011 4:35 PM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

Posted by: SouthPoIe
Clone is an internet God.

Posted by: DerpRoids
RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.


Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
Just picked up my capture card :D Now the only thing left to do is test the map. Can't wait to get that over with so I can make the video. The promo film is what I'm looking forward to most. I already have a storyboard laid out.

Testing tomorrow evening (friday), and I mean it RC Clone/Bazza

You better not scrap this in the next 24 hours.

  • 12.29.2011 4:55 PM PDT

Sign me up for testing! This looks awesome!

  • 12.29.2011 6:35 PM PDT

And so God called Moses to come forth but he came fifth and was therefore disqualified.

I really want that map >:)

  • 12.29.2011 7:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
Just picked up my capture card :D Now the only thing left to do is test the map. Can't wait to get that over with so I can make the video. The promo film is what I'm looking forward to most. I already have a storyboard laid out.

Testing tomorrow evening (friday), and I mean it RC Clone/Bazza

You better not scrap this in the next 24 hours.


No this time it's actually in Forge already.

  • 12.29.2011 8:21 PM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
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Posted by: DerpRoids
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Will just be a preliminary layout or will it be polished?

  • 12.29.2011 8:22 PM PDT

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Posted by: RC Clone
Will just be a preliminary layout or will it be polished?


It'll look polished. I learned earlier this year not to post a non-polished map to my file share anymore.

This one wont even need internal alpha testing because of all the blueprints I've drawn for it. I'll just run around with a second controller and see how players interactive with the map.

  • 12.29.2011 8:29 PM PDT

Herp derp.

Is playtesting open to everyone?

  • 12.29.2011 8:41 PM PDT

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Posted by: Gyarados121996
Is playtesting open to everyone?


Basically yes. Anyone is welcome to test the map. I'll run lobbies tomorrow to test it. I'll also have it on my file share for others to DL and play with their buddies.

  • 12.29.2011 8:43 PM PDT

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Posted by: Gyarados121996
Is playtesting open to everyone?


Basically yes. Anyone is welcome to test the map. I'll run lobbies tomorrow to test it. I'll also have it on my file share for others to DL and play with their buddies.


Invite me or have the map be doomed to fail.

  • 12.29.2011 8:44 PM PDT

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Posted by: Gyarados121996
Is playtesting open to everyone?


Basically yes. Anyone is welcome to test the map. I'll run lobbies tomorrow to test it. I'll also have it on my file share for others to DL and play with their buddies.


Invite me or have the map be doomed to fail.


It'll be an honor to have a player of your talents test out the map.

Just don't steal my first strike medals

  • 12.30.2011 1:56 PM PDT

So your play testing tonight? What time and time zone?

  • 12.30.2011 2:29 PM PDT


Posted by: Rabid Tatt00ist
So your play testing tonight? What time and time zone?


I'm not a big Invasion guy but I would like to playtest as well. Maybe I can become a big Invasion player after I am blown away by the glory of ODST Invasion.

  • 12.30.2011 2:59 PM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
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Posted by: DerpRoids
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Dammit. Random circumstance has taken away my ability to join tonight's testing.

  • 12.30.2011 4:16 PM PDT

Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
Goat was famous. Irie was infamous. Gh0st was FaMaS.

I could come back on Reach for a day to play.

Invite me if I'm on.

  • 12.30.2011 4:24 PM PDT