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Subject: Teams = Good K/D & W/L, Lone Wolf Playlist

It is evident that if you play in a team, you will, more than likely, have more fun in your games. Why? Because you have support when you have 3 or more people shooting in the same direction.

I am one of the gamers that these forums have labeled a bad player because:

1. My K/D doesn't have a 2 at the beginning
2. My ToD is the Gravity Hammer (more on that in a minute)
3. My Win/Loss is about .55
4. I don't have (a lot of) friends that play this game

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Now, the #1 response I read whenever I see a similar thread is "Why do you search alone?" See #4. Apparently Reach is only for people who enjoy to play full parties. That is bull-blam!-. See, I figure its about 50/50 when it comes to randoms/teams of 2 or more.

Reach is a year old. I love Halo. My friends like other games or have moved onto other things. Hence why I search alone. Onto #1...

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I'd love to find ANYONE with a "GOOD" K/D (1.75 or higher) that plays solo and has a Win/Loss of more than 70% that does MORE than Rumble Pit. I can't remember her name but she was a REALLY high rank and she had one of the most amazing Rumble Pit records I have ever seen. ANYWAY...

I have done okay in BTB doing Lone Wolf. USUALLY whenever there is a BTB game I am in that has nothing but randoms there are some decent players that know how to handle themselves and can drive a vehicle well. Squad Slayer is good, too. There are enough people to balance out if you happen to get some players with...dismal skills.

Teams of FOUR, however, I have found it hard to make up for a single bad player. Generally, in most of my games, if there is a single good player on the other team, the other players can build off of that. I scratch my head when I'm the best player on my team and I am on a random team...and the other teams still manages to win.

Now, there are exceptions, though. I've looked up game history after I played a game and am flabbergasted to find a "GOOD" K/D player and they did HORRIBLE. Before you say LOLGRIFBALL (this is the best example...GREAT players with DMRs, Snipers, NRs, bad with the hammer...how's that possible?) I've played games when I gone +20 against far superior (statwise) players. Did I just get lucky?

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Now, W/L...I'll wager (on what I've seen on various randoms) that most randoms have a W/L between 40-60%. TEAM players that play most of their games (4 out of 5) with teams of 3 or more, win 75% or more of their games. And, as a result, their K/Ds are better for it. If you are able to call out your shots instead of everyone being muted (on the rare occasion that I forget to mute my mic after I play with teams, I never hear ANYONE), your chances of coordinating a barrage is going to fly out the window.

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My ToD is the Grav Hammer. Why? Because Grifball is a fast paced games where even full teams can only make ONE mistake and the ball carrier can score. Teamwork is paramount...IF YOU'RE IN A FULL PARTY. Grifball, believe it or not, is usually fun with nothing but randoms. There's an air of a FFA melee fest with a slight urgency to get the ball and score. Usually, if I try to go and score quick and encounter opposition, I wait for my team to push ahead...and they usually die immediately...whereas if I take my time, wait for some other people to run the ball close, die repeatedly, and after killing a bunch of opponents, I can run in, pick the scraps, pick up the ball for about two seconds and score.

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How could 343 alleviate this constant problem of randoms going up against large parties? A Single Player Max Party Playlist. It would consist of SOME Rumble Pit objective style game types as well as team slayer with some team objective game types...I think 1 FFA option and 2 Team options per matchmaking voting screen.

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TL/DR: See title.

  • 11.04.2011 9:15 PM PDT
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my stats are are from like 90% going in solo.

  • 11.04.2011 9:18 PM PDT

Back when I used to search alone almost exclusively, I still maintained a win/loss higher than 70%. :/

  • 11.04.2011 9:19 PM PDT

U Wot m8


Posted by: Sanuel Jackson
Back when I used to search alone almost exclusively, I still maintained a win/loss higher than 70%. :/

  • 11.04.2011 9:48 PM PDT

Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
Goat was famous. Irie was infamous. Gh0st was FaMaS.

My stats in Halol 4

Typical Waypoint post.
no it's "its got to go" you wouldn't say the "it is got to go" would you?


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Posted by: Sanuel Jackson
Back when I used to search alone almost exclusively, I still maintained a win/loss higher than 70%. :/

  • 11.04.2011 10:11 PM PDT
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I think if you're able to go positive (like 1.25-1.50 average) and win better than half of your games as a random, especially if you frequent objective based playlists, you're doing something right.

A lot of these dudes with 2+ K/Ds and 75% W/L are a product of having some serious back up. Without a doubt they're good enough to own most in 1 v 1 but the high K/D is spawn killing and the W/L is a direct result of playing with a team.

I don't think that either statistic is much to go off from.

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RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.

Posted by: Myth iZ
A lot of these dudes with 2+ K/Ds and 75% W/L are a product of having some serious back up.

Or they are just that (forgive my misuse of the term) good.

  • 11.04.2011 10:20 PM PDT

Wow, Sanuel and Ghost posted in my thread...notorious party players.

The two of you are good players. We get it. Most randoms can't improve because they don't use team work...or at least I don't consciously use it on a regular basis.

  • 11.04.2011 10:22 PM PDT

Posted by: Kensei Mizuchi
notorious party players
lolwut

I prefer searching with friends as opposed to having terrible randoms on my team that need both hands to operate the left joystick. Besides, I still search alone from time to time, but that just gets boring and frustrating, so I don't do it often.

  • 11.04.2011 10:26 PM PDT


Posted by: Sanuel Jackson
Posted by: Kensei Mizuchi
notorious party players
lolwut

I prefer searching with friends as opposed to having terrible randoms on my team that need both hands to operate the left joystick. Besides, I still search alone from time to time, but that just gets boring and frustrating, so I don't do it often.

Exactly. It gets FRUSTRATING. If there was a single player party playlist then it would be LESS frustrating. No one could team up. It would be truly FFA. I hate when I go into rumble put and see someone with a guest boosting Perfections.

And your first sentence is what my thread is all about. IF randoms didn't mute and all went into a party chat in the lobby according to their teams against randoms that didn't, they would probably win, wouldn't they? You can't get better in this game if you can't learn tactics by playing solo ALL THE TIME.

Look at it from my POV. Since graduating college, LIVE and various internet forums are where ALL my friends are. I honestly have no local friends outside of work and of my coworkers I am the ONLY one that plays videogames. I'm a loner. As such I generally don't make new friends very often and I doubt I could find many new ones that enjoy Reach...its sheer praise on these forums is a good indicator... -_-

I prefer searching with friends, too. I'm sure everybody does. But I'm guessing...40% of the population are like me, at least in the since that most of their friends have moved on to other things. What way to remedy the situation of randoms vs parties? Institute my playlist idea. That way everyone would be on even ground.

  • 11.04.2011 11:14 PM PDT

Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
Goat was famous. Irie was infamous. Gh0st was FaMaS.

My stats in Halol 4

Typical Waypoint post.
no it's "its got to go" you wouldn't say the "it is got to go" would you?

Randoms are horrible. Why would anyone want to play retard roulette just to play a game?

  • 11.04.2011 11:21 PM PDT

Like a boss.


Posted by: Gh0st is Bad
Randoms are horrible. Why would anyone want to play retard roulette just to play a game?


To find people to party up with/add.

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  • 11.04.2011 11:32 PM PDT

I search squad in 2s with bad IRL friends 99% of the time and still have a like a 2.5k/d and 78%w/l.

  • 11.04.2011 11:58 PM PDT

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Dear OP,

You are suffering side effects from what we on bungie.net refer to as trolling. It appears that you are starting to get conscious about your stats a little bit and need to make a defense for yourself. You want people to know that you are a good player and that you should be respected. You feel that players that play with full teams have bloated statistics and get more credit than they might be due. Here is the bottom line: ignore your stats. Keep playing the game the way you want to play it, nothing else matters.

  • 11.04.2011 11:59 PM PDT
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Posted by: analbumcover
You feel that players that play with full teams have bloated statistics and get more credit than they might be due. Here is the bottom line: ignore your stats. Keep playing the game the way you want to play it, nothing else matters.
*slow claps*

Speak the truth!

Statistics are meaningless - there are so many ways to manipulate them - even simply being good - but as analbumcover said, caring about that is for naught...remember...as long as you're enjoying yourself - you're winning.

Leave the stat tracking and trashing to the children with little better to do than tug on each others imaginary e-peens. Once a new game comes out this cycle will start all over again - it's best to just stay out of it and focus on having fun - rather than getting riled up that xxTRYHARDxx thinks you suck because you don't have a 2+ K/D.

Keep on keepin' on...

  • 11.05.2011 12:21 AM PDT

Posted by: Kensei Mizuchi
Posted by: Sanuel Jackson
Posted by: Kensei Mizuchi
notorious party players
lolwut

I prefer searching with friends as opposed to having terrible randoms on my team that need both hands to operate the left joystick. Besides, I still search alone from time to time, but that just gets boring and frustrating, so I don't do it often.

Exactly. It gets FRUSTRATING. If there was a single player party playlist then it would be LESS frustrating. No one could team up. It would be truly FFA. I hate when I go into rumble put and see someone with a guest boosting Perfections.

And your first sentence is what my thread is all about. IF randoms didn't mute and all went into a party chat in the lobby according to their teams against randoms that didn't, they would probably win, wouldn't they? You can't get better in this game if you can't learn tactics by playing solo ALL THE TIME.

Look at it from my POV. Since graduating college, LIVE and various internet forums are where ALL my friends are. I honestly have no local friends outside of work and of my coworkers I am the ONLY one that plays videogames. I'm a loner. As such I generally don't make new friends very often and I doubt I could find many new ones that enjoy Reach...its sheer praise on these forums is a good indicator... -_-

I prefer searching with friends, too. I'm sure everybody does. But I'm guessing...40% of the population are like me, at least in the since that most of their friends have moved on to other things. What way to remedy the situation of randoms vs parties? Institute my playlist idea. That way everyone would be on even ground.

That's unfortunate. I can try to help you get better if you want.

BTW That's where the beauty of Halo shines, when full parties match other full parties. I play Squad and regularly match parties all the time, but they rarely ever beat me.

[Edited on 11.05.2011 6:31 AM PDT]

  • 11.05.2011 6:23 AM PDT

That's the thing though OP. Stop thinking about k/d and w/l and you will do a lot better. Being stressed about who you are playing and how good they are will make you less effective. Mainly because you say oh yea this will be easy or. These guys are good and give up from the start. Play everyone like they are godly players. You will find you yourself will become better. A 90% w/l means nothing in a game if you beat them. It's just that thay are consistant not that they are better. They are just numbers. If you start to care lessa about the game and people who lip you in pre-game lobby. You will become much better at what you do and focus.

[Edited on 11.05.2011 7:12 AM PDT]

  • 11.05.2011 7:11 AM PDT