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Subject: The biggest gripes of competitive players

Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
Goat was famous. Irie was infamous. Gh0st was FaMaS.

My stats in Halol 4

Typical Waypoint post.
no it's "its got to go" you wouldn't say the "it is got to go" would you?

I am by no means a competitive player. Strictly observations from hanging around MLG and Single Digit Arena kids for so long.

There are three main gripes that plague many competitive Reach players. Probably the most obvious one would be bloom. Bloom has made, in their opinion, one on one battles to become either a random outcome, or impossible to finish due to how much it affects kill times. It has also made the teamshot go from heavily prevalent to almost completely necessary to finish off people. Obviously, this turned off a lot of more individually skilled oriented players.

The second problem to competitive players is Armor Abilities. Bungie did not forsee a lot of the abuse that many Reach players, especially Arena players, would put these new game mechanics through. Maps such as Reflection, Asylum and especially the Cage variants are rendered unplayable without Jetpack. Sword Base, Countdown and other CQC oriented maps are destroyed by Armor Lock. Drop Shield destroys Objective play by making the Objective runner nigh invulnerable.

Finally, the map design in his game is atrocious. I can not put it any other way. A lot of times, it seems that aesthetics were put in front of Gameplay. I think we all know what a game of Sword Base turns into. I already touched on the map issues with AA abuse, but the final nail in the coffin has to be the horrible framerates that a lot of the maps obtain when frenetic action happens.

Combine all three, and you'll see (hopefully) why a lot of hardcore Halo players were turned off by this game.

tl:dr - Reach had a lot of potential to be a great competitive game and blew it.


[Edited on 11.06.2011 8:58 PM PST]

  • 11.06.2011 8:30 PM PDT
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Bringing in Fikst. Bringing back lmao.
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Nice.

  • 11.06.2011 8:32 PM PDT

:D

OK

  • 11.06.2011 8:35 PM PDT

U Wot m8

Bloom is bloom is..Horrible,hating it more everytime i play.

  • 11.06.2011 8:42 PM PDT

If Living Dead and Swat are the two most popular playlists, you know something's wrong.

  • 11.06.2011 8:43 PM PDT

I have to agree with this. It's the main reason I don't like Reach anywhere near as much as I liked the previous titles.

  • 11.06.2011 8:47 PM PDT

I'm Lightening, I'm frightening, Comming at ya like northern bullet. What was that ya Jack of clubs.

I agree with all here. Reach could of been better.

I think The AA's. Should of just been Equipment just like in Halo 3. If not keep that the same.

I could name so much, But what's done is done.
I'd like to think if Reach was done the way we start to wish it was It could of been so much better But Hey, The game turned out pretty decent. I mean, I'm easily happy playing Long RPG's And I was pretty happy with Reach. Still could of been better.

  • 11.06.2011 8:55 PM PDT
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Put AA's as map objects and pick ups, take out bloom, increase movement speed and jump height, get the CEA maps.

Ohmygod, Reach is actually good.

  • 11.06.2011 8:57 PM PDT

I'm Lightening, I'm frightening, Comming at ya like northern bullet. What was that ya Jack of clubs.

Bloom was in every Halo.
Reticle Bloom my friend. I hate it to.


Posted by: WoundedMr Krabs
Bloom is bloom is..Horrible,hating it more everytime i play.

  • 11.06.2011 8:57 PM PDT

NIQQA Please!

  • 11.06.2011 9:00 PM PDT

Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
Goat was famous. Irie was infamous. Gh0st was FaMaS.

My stats in Halol 4

Typical Waypoint post.
no it's "its got to go" you wouldn't say the "it is got to go" would you?


Posted by: WatsItFoxSixx
Bloom was in every Halo.
Correction.

It was in Halo:CE and only on automatic weapons. This meant that the Magnum had bloom, but only if it was held down, which nobody did because the max ROF was easily obtainable by mashing RT.

The other games had bullet spread, most notably Halo 3 and it's poopy netcode.

  • 11.06.2011 9:00 PM PDT

Posted by: Hollows
OMFG DOOD MY SCHOOL HAS 4000 KIDS AND LIKE 50% ARE BLACK, THEY ALL DO THIS ITS SO FKN ANOOYING. IT MAKES ME WANT TO PUNCH THEM IN THE FACE BUT IM AFRAID CUZ THEY'RE BLACK.

I agree, and the song fits PERFECTLY!

  • 11.06.2011 9:05 PM PDT

I'm Lightening, I'm frightening, Comming at ya like northern bullet. What was that ya Jack of clubs.


Posted by: Gh0st is Bad

Posted by: WatsItFoxSixx
Bloom was in every Halo.
Correction.

It was in Halo:CE and only on automatic weapons. This meant that the Magnum had bloom, but only if it was held down, which nobody did because the max ROF was easily obtainable by mashing RT.

The other games had bullet spread, most notably Halo 3 and it's poopy netcode.


I stand corrected.. My bad. I always throught Halo had Bloom in it. Cause I felt Bullet Spread and Bloom in Halo's had that kind of feeling at times. Mind you I played stoned and drunk

  • 11.06.2011 9:09 PM PDT

SNICKERS
your not the same when ur starved ^

  • 11.06.2011 9:10 PM PDT

Ever wonder what's up there?

K

Now take it to Waypoint.

  • 11.06.2011 9:15 PM PDT

I'm Lightening, I'm frightening, Comming at ya like northern bullet. What was that ya Jack of clubs.


Posted by: Jokilly
SNICKERS
your not the same when ur starved ^


I find it odd that I'm actually craving a SNICKERS now

  • 11.06.2011 9:15 PM PDT

T A K E T H A T S H I T T O W A Y P OI NT

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they're gooooooooooooooooooooooood

  • 11.06.2011 9:16 PM PDT

Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
Goat was famous. Irie was infamous. Gh0st was FaMaS.

My stats in Halol 4

Typical Waypoint post.
no it's "its got to go" you wouldn't say the "it is got to go" would you?


Posted by: angello22
K

Now take it to Waypoint.
banned until 2552

  • 11.06.2011 9:21 PM PDT

Ever wonder what's up there?

Posted by: Gh0st is Bad

Posted by: angello22
K

Now take it to Waypoint.
banned until 2552

LMAO

I got banned for calling out bsangel, but holy damn, 2552?!

ROR

  • 11.06.2011 9:22 PM PDT

Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
Goat was famous. Irie was infamous. Gh0st was FaMaS.

My stats in Halol 4

Typical Waypoint post.
no it's "its got to go" you wouldn't say the "it is got to go" would you?


Posted by: angello22
Posted by: Gh0st is Bad

Posted by: angello22
K

Now take it to Waypoint.
banned until 2552

LMAO

I got banned for calling out bsangel, but holy damn, 2552?!

ROR
Jewish Internet is banned until 9000.

  • 11.06.2011 9:25 PM PDT

OBAMA WILL CHANGE THAT MINORITIES WILL PREVAIL DADADADADADADADAD DANDAND DANDNANDAND NDAN FADE TO BLACK GOOD SONG

  • 11.06.2011 9:52 PM PDT

Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
Goat was famous. Irie was infamous. Gh0st was FaMaS.

My stats in Halol 4

Typical Waypoint post.
no it's "its got to go" you wouldn't say the "it is got to go" would you?


Posted by: Jokilly
OBAMA WILL CHANGE THAT MINORITIES WILL PREVAIL DADADADADADADADAD DANDAND DANDNANDAND NDAN FADE TO BLACK GOOD SONG
ITT

Really bad troll.

  • 11.06.2011 10:14 PM PDT

Posted by: AngryBrute1
Oh yeah, since somebody does not believe what YOU believe; that makes us vapid...
I cannot grasp that what you call "Something happened to nothing, and that nothing became something, and it was smaller than than a period."

If they were turned off by it, then why do I play more than half my current games with some stupid MLG person who hogs all the kills and destroys everyone?

  • 11.06.2011 10:24 PM PDT

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