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Subject: Compilation of Proposed Features I'd Like

Below is a list of functionality which I think would make Bungie.net one of the most ideal places to be. I haven't included reasons for things because they're mostly self-explanatory, but if you're unsure of what I'm referring to, speak up.


General
- Enhance the site so it does more work for the user instead of vice-versa; more interactivity
- Timestamps should be more meaningful for users
- The site should use its own authentication system where you login with your username and password
- Allow advertisements to be a little more intuitive
- More AJAX


Forums
- The option to remove restricted characters from a post
- When creating a post, show the resulting post (ie. the HTML) above/below the input textbox. As you type, it is displayed for you
- Intermittently refresh (AJAX) the forum page, moving existing topics (<tr>) to where they are according to the latest response. Same idea with reply pages, except automatically show the new posts
- Ability for a user to hide a topic from their view
- Ability for a user to pin a topic to their view
- Save the post locally on each keyup until the post is submitted or a new one is started
- Remove the entire drop down signature box from forum posts, or replace it with something more useful
- Enable threads to be tagged
- Enable threads to be rated
- When creating a thread, the site should give links to existing threads based on the title that is input as an alternative to creating a new topic


Searching
- Allow specific searches of topic title, post contents, etc...
- Allow filters such as date ranges, per-user, per-group, per-forum, rating, etc...
- Allow tag searches
- Allow searches to include posts made by Bungie-authored external sites. For example, searching through Bungie's Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, etc... videos, comments, news, posts, etc...


Formatting
- Lists
- Strike-through
- Headings (inc. anchoring)
- Tables
- Alignment
- Quote enhancements
- Specific sections to show a convertible date
- Permalinking
- More integration with game content (a la)
- When referring to another user, the use of a special character (eg. '@') and the characters following it can bring up a small overlay with a list showing the possible matches. Clicking on or hitting enter whilst in this mode automatically includes a link to the user's profile.


Groups
- Wikis and other collaborative software
- Multiple forums
- Integration with game content, statistics, etc...


Profiles
- Ignore user option which extends to the forums
- Profiles blogs
- Allow them to be a kind of "hub" for yourself where you can connect various/multiple services (eg. PSN, Xbox LIVE, YouTube, Twitter, etc...)
- Enable a notification system to, well... notify you of things
- Give users privileges; the more well-behaved they are, the more privileges they receive, and vice-versa


Private Messaging
- Operate the PM system on the site over the top of an underlying email system
- Allow PMs to be sent/received as email
- Allow email connectivity over the Internet for mail clients (eg. desktop/smartphone mail applications)
- Allow mailing lists to be utilised, especially in regard to private groups

  • 11.07.2011 12:14 AM PDT

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are Destiny.

I'd love to see all these features come into the light at one point in the future. I'm skeptical about the 'email' system however.

  • 11.07.2011 12:18 AM PDT

"Everything will be gone long before me. When the first living thing was born, I was here, waiting. When the last living thing dies, my job is finished. I'll put the chairs on the tables, turn out the lights and lock the universe behind me when I leave." -Shishka

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http://www.bungie.net/News/Blog.aspx?mode=news#cid32227

I love everything you've suggested above! Also, maybe an addition to the 'Private Messaging' section where each user has a 'Sent Box' perhaps?

  • 11.07.2011 12:18 AM PDT

Posted by: Dustin 6047
Troll confirmed. I never even insulted you

Posted by: Dustin 6047
OP - You're a dumbass with the reading comprehension skills of a second grader.


Can someone tell me what's wrong with these two, this made me LOL hard.

I agree with all the formatting. :D

You basically listed everything I wanted on Bnet format wise.

  • 11.07.2011 12:21 AM PDT

Posted by: acnboy34
I'd love to see all these features come into the light at one point in the future. I'm skeptical about the 'email' system however.
Any particular reason? If it's the one I'm thinking of, I don't think it would be.

Posted by: BLAIR223
I love everything you've suggested above! Also, maybe an addition to the 'Private Messaging' section where each user has a 'Sent Box' perhaps?
Hook it up to the sent box of the underlying email account. Done.

  • 11.07.2011 12:22 AM PDT

"Everything will be gone long before me. When the first living thing was born, I was here, waiting. When the last living thing dies, my job is finished. I'll put the chairs on the tables, turn out the lights and lock the universe behind me when I leave." -Shishka

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http://www.bungie.net/News/Blog.aspx?mode=news#cid32227

Posted by: dazarobbo
Hook it up to the sent box of the underlying email account. Done.
Great idea. This will be an awesome way to keep track.

  • 11.07.2011 12:26 AM PDT
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Posted by: dazarobbo
General
- Enhance the site so it does more work for the user instead of vice-versa; more interactivity
Can you give any examples, or is this simply a descriptor for what comes below?


Also, I object to "ignore user". No particular reason as yet, but my gut tells me that this is a bad idea.

  • 11.07.2011 12:37 AM PDT

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are Destiny.


Posted by: dazarobbo
Posted by: acnboy34
I'd love to see all these features come into the light at one point in the future. I'm skeptical about the 'email' system however.
Any particular reason? If it's the one I'm thinking of, I don't think it would be.

Posted by: BLAIR223
I love everything you've suggested above! Also, maybe an addition to the 'Private Messaging' section where each user has a 'Sent Box' perhaps?
Hook it up to the sent box of the underlying email account. Done.
As awesome as it would be, it would definitely get spoiled by people using it for illegal intentions. Monitoring email for 100,000 users would be difficult.

[Edited on 11.07.2011 12:42 AM PST]

  • 11.07.2011 12:41 AM PDT

I can't imagine that transferring hundreds of thousands of accounts from one log-in system to another will be easy...or without glitches. I would hate to see anyone lose their profile or access to any of their game data.

That being said, I would expect the WLID stuff to stay for xbox users, and there to be an alternate log-in for PS3 users. Without the WLID there would be no access to friends list features and some other things, so if they are going to need the email and password anyways, we might as well keep it simple.

  • 11.07.2011 12:49 AM PDT

Some of the features sound cool and others look like hieroglyphics.

  • 11.07.2011 1:37 AM PDT

"If practice makes perfect" and 'nobody's perfect,' then what's the point of practice?"

I'm still up for "collapse post" for users to collapse other users posts on their end to save scrolling time or just to ignore that person's post while still having the option to reply or report below.

Similar to posts that are collapsed from reporting. The option could fit in the "more" dropdown menu.

[Edited on 11.07.2011 2:01 AM PST]

  • 11.07.2011 1:51 AM PDT

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Truth is a matter of perception.

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Posted by: dazarobbo
General
- Enhance the site so it does more work for the user


Getting lazy? Just kidding.


OT: I would like to see a sent box and possibly a quote notification system. I would also like to get rid of WLID login system, every time it goes down we can't get on Bnet.

  • 11.07.2011 2:19 AM PDT

Posted by: Telec
Posted by: dazarobbo
General
- Enhance the site so it does more work for the user instead of vice-versa; more interactivity
Can you give any examples, or is this simply a descriptor for what comes below?
The latter. It's just a principle I think should be adopted for any new features, because if users find the site easier/enjoyable to use, they'll stick around. There are some websites which have adopted that and become incredibly popular and successful.


Posted by: acnboy34
As awesome as it would be, it would definitely get spoiled by people using it for illegal intentions. Monitoring email for 100,000 users would be difficult.
As opposed to the existing PM system? I'm not so sure. And this hypothetical "Bungie.net email" could be internal-only - you can only send/receive messages to and from other Bungie.net users (ie. not to/from Hotmail, Gmail, etc...).


Posted by: Sgt Dippinbud
That being said, I would expect the WLID stuff to stay for xbox users, and there to be an alternate log-in for PS3 users. Without the WLID there would be no access to friends list features and some other things, so if they are going to need the email and password anyways, we might as well keep it simple.
That's the kind of thing I was trying to propose a fix for.

If you have a Bungie.net account with its own authentication system, you could then link/connect each individual service (Xbox LIVE, PSN, etc..) to it. Using the Bungie.net account as "hub" for those services, you could then continue to view your LIVE friends just as you do now, but with the added benefit of seeing friends from other services (eg. PSN). And if something like cross-platform content or communication is possible in the new IP, something like this would be extremely useful if you have an Xbox and your friend has a PS3, for example.

  • 11.07.2011 3:10 AM PDT

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* What about this?
* Email subscription to threads and PM.
* Mobile friendly site theme.
* Ability to see all threads started by a user.
* Ability to see all threads you have posted in.

[Edited on 11.07.2011 3:49 AM PST]

  • 11.07.2011 3:43 AM PDT

When I grow up I want to be bitter and spiteful.

"i liked the reality where everything was on fire better"
-legato on remedial chaos theory

Because the "ideal" Bungie.net is subjective, I tend to disagree on several of your ideas. Most of your suggestions I either support or am impartial to, however I believe the below listed would prove detrimental to the overall Bungie.net experience:
Posted by: dazarobbo
- Ability for a user to hide a topic from their view

In a most sincere of interpretations, what the hell is wrong with you? When a user comes for information, it should not be biased to their views. Each and every one of our views is limited, and the opportunities for new, enriching, and even disagreeing information only serves to broaden our views. To hide a topic would be to cut of an entirety of views and relevant information. Certain topics in these forums may violate specific rules, but does that make their views untrue? In my opinion, views should be tested by all manner of criticism and alternative. I see this feature, along with the ignore user feature, the most likely to be abused. To provide users a means of biased ignorance would be truly limiting their experience.


- Enable threads to be rated
Subjectivity aside, the rating system an incredibly stupid idea. The like/dislike, or thumbs up/down system allows a user to simply click an opinion rather than developing and openly sharing it.

To me, this brings about two major apparent faults. First, users no longer have to substantiate their opinions. People will be able to openly criticize users posts without any basis themselves. Because they don't have to explain why they like or dislike the post, it takes away both from the discussion and the argument. A criticism without reason is a childish attack. Having a debate where a point can be voted down en mass without any actual counter point is outright idiotic. It promotes a group mindset, putting down valuable concepts such as individualism and even the basic demand of backing one's opinion. Such a brainless process only serves to take away fact from discussion, turning it to pure outside bias and emotion.

The second I fault I see with this system is the anonymity it permits. With a rating system, you can be a complete coward and criticize a post. Better yet, a collection of people, none on which receives and responsibility, can put down a posters opinion and reputation. Such a separation from responsibility can only lead to corruption of the system, as we have seen clearly with the dark nature prevalent in the internet.

To anyone wishing to have a discussion, the idea of a like/dislike system should be horrific. With a like/dislike system, a completely valid point can be put down purely by opinion, without any counterpoints or debate opponents to offer alternatives. It literally takes the intelligence out of an argument.

- Ignore user option which extends to the forumsSee my argument for hiding threads. The purpose of such a feature would be to limit the experience of the user in that it would allow them to literally become ignorant of all the content of another user. There is no reason specified for this feature, so it goes without saying that it will assuredly be abused for users that simply dislike each other. It would limited valid points and alternative criticism.
Say I were to decide to ignore elmicker, because he's arrogant and unkind and the lot. I would thus be cut off from his input, his opinions, and in many cases correct and relevant information just because of my hypothetical dislike of him. Users need information that they don't like, because it can reaffirm or adjust their views, allowing them greater understanding and thus the 'ideal' Bungie.net experience.

- Profiles blogsIn my personal opinion, these would be nothing more than a waste of space. I don't want to build a considerable argument against it, because I don't see any benefit other than unregulated personal expression subject to abuse.

- Give users privileges; the more well-behaved they are, the more privileges they receive, and vice-versa I would be fine with the idea of giving users more privileges, but the Bungie.net forums history of meritocracy is one of fault. It is largely based around account age and posting habits, and often violations can either go unnoticed or in many cases ignored due to subjectivity. In turn, while these factors may in certain cases be strong indicators of trust, they are not and thus should not be determinants. Unless the system of merit is revised, I am heavily against this idea.

  • 11.07.2011 7:29 AM PDT
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Anyone but Foman. He smells like cheese.

Posted by: Duck duck DEATH
Nice post. Great points and I would tend to agree with everything you said.

  • 11.07.2011 7:41 AM PDT


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Posted by: Duck duck DEATH
Nice post. Great points and I would tend to agree with everything you said.


I'm going to disagree with you here.

It's not Bungie.net's job to teach people how to be open minded. If they don't want to be open in the first place, they simply won't post. Letting people ignore other users would cut down on flaming, and it would make "report and move on" something people might actually do.

Letting people give posts thumbs up or thumbs down would let people who would otherwise simply not post anything share their opinion. And it would let people who would otherwise say something like "You're an idiot" or "TL;DR" or "umadbro?" share their opinion without spamming. It would cut down on the work that you mods would have to do. And I don't think that it would keep people from saying their opinions if they feel strongly about them.

  • 11.07.2011 8:14 AM PDT
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While I haven't read the list at all, I probably agree with most of it.

  • 11.07.2011 9:51 AM PDT
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Brilliant list.

An update to the profanity filter would also be nice.

  • 11.07.2011 9:57 AM PDT

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i agree, the filter needs a good drive improvement, its still using the 2003 version of filters if i am right, the 2011 models delete crap and junk within 9X10^12 seconds.

saying that though. the old one allows you to read stuff before it deletes them, it leaves that time window open, which is good, it might delete something you want to keep.

in fact sometimes it doesnt delete at all, i have a message from a spam account from 2007 or something.

  • 11.07.2011 10:03 AM PDT

Weapon Specialist Squad insignia, Leave none Injured. anything less than dead is unnacceptable

oops, talking about the wrong kind of filter, the mail filter. still a good point though
Posted by: Shadow Fang 014
i agree, the filter needs a good drive improvement, its still using the 2003 version of filters if i am right, the 2011 models delete crap and junk within 9X10^12 seconds.

saying that though. the old one allows you to read stuff before it deletes them, it leaves that time window open, which is good, it might delete something you want to keep.

in fact sometimes it doesnt delete at all, i have a message from a spam account from 2007 or something.

  • 11.07.2011 10:04 AM PDT

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Posted by: Agustus
I lol'd at the absurd miscommunication that occurs whenever dibbs post something. Perhaps his brain is so highly evolved that he can no longer clearly communicate with lesser life forms, even among his own species.

Posted by: Duck duck DEATHGet out of my head Charles!

Dazz, I agree with a lot of what you said (removing restricted characters and the entire "Searching" column specifically) but I find where you and a lot of others (including myself and, it seems, Duck although I wouldn't want to speak for him) disagree is to what extent this website should be tailored towards the individual user.

I am of the opinion that this should not become a user-centric site. What I mean by that is that this should not be a site where the user's profile is a "base of operations"; where all of a users input on the site is centered around their profile and those whom they have allowed to access it.

I truly believe that this is a community centric site and should stay as such; that everyone's input is on display for everyone to see and then users can pick and choose which conversations they'd like to participate in (without having the option to filter out what they don't want to see - mainly for the reasons Duck listed). When you start to have features where the user can dictate how their experience changes on a large scale (via ignore features, a friend's list, an advanced profile, and the like) this starts to become less a community website and more of a (I hate to say this because there's so many preconceived notions about it. It isn't inherently bad and does have certain features which would be useful for this website) a social networking site.

I will admit that groups as they are now are the first step into this user centric experience and I tend to enjoy them. I realize these are contradictory opinions to hold and I really can't reconcile them, but I do truly believe that more features which tend to make the user paramount to the community would be detrimental.

Edit: Just want to make it clear...I believe there should be features which better allow an individual to experience the site (better searching; integration with other websites; maybe even a blog) but there should not be features which make it easier for a user to withdraw from the community (rating system, enhanced profiles, friends lists).

[Edited on 11.07.2011 11:35 AM PST]

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