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Subject: What was 343i thinking when they remade the CE pistol into Reach?

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Posted by: Ryz
If you're not here to bash Campaign Hero, then your opinion is void.


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Posted by: Balbazak
lol poor second accounter, the pistol can destroy your precious cawks.
Boo hoo.


Fix'd

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  • 11.07.2011 3:23 PM PDT
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Posted by: x0v3rKiLx
They were thinking of the TRUE Halo fans that want it back. That's who. Not the Reach-tards that worship the almighty statue of Armor Lock and pray to the gods of grenade spam and the goddesses of double melees.

U mad? U bad? U jelly?


Yeah, it worked in CE but in CE only. It's going to flop in Reach. Power weapons will become obsolete. In the time it takes to shoot a rocket at someone and kill them, you will be dead from a 3sk. Kinda stupid if you ask me.


The magnum made power weapons Obsolete to begin with in CE.

Ala CTF on Hang Em' High MLG 04.


I barely played CE multiplayer, and when I did, it was against my IRL friends who were garbage...maybe that's why I didn't notice that power weapons hardly made a difference even then. ;/


The pistol had amazing range and skilled players outshoot pretty much everything.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TEN2o955ME

We all know it won't play like this.

  • 11.07.2011 3:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: Vulture255
I see where both sides are coming from. I too have played CE for a long time, and as everyone else says, the magnum is way OP, but that was part of what made CE great. The mechanics of CE, such as bullet lead and all that jazz, forced you to be good with the magnum. You either were good at it, or you died. Bringing it back into Reach though, is frankly a bad idea. Reach was not built with the same ideas and such, so re-introducing the OP pistol just ruins what little balance the game has. It was fine in CE, where the gameplay flows supported it, but in Reach, it's just a disaster that will probably turn more people away than bring them back.


Which is exactly why I'm so conflicted. Reach, CANNOT support any changes made with past Halo's in mind. It doesn't work. But Reach needs to be fixed at the same time.

What I see in the TU Beta hasn't impressed me, and now what's left of Reach's population will be split in two, while Reach still remains unfixed.

You'll have vanilla Reach, which you have the gist of by now with all the bile on the forums. And 343s Reach, which seems like an impostor, still using unfixed things from vanilla Reach with a blend of past halo's that don't mix well together.

Skyrim please deliver me elsewhere.

[Edited on 11.07.2011 3:30 PM PST]

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Banned just for calling someone retarded? lolBnet mods
Duardo = retard

So you think Reach is an actual Halo game, huh? LOL
Jesus! There's a BoB in ma Falcon!


Posted by: Campaign Hero
She said that im too young to be on the internet without her monitoring me.


You're right

  • 11.07.2011 3:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: Ryz
If you're not here to bash Campaign Hero, then your opinion is void.


Posted by: gamesager butbud
this

Nice try. I actually know how to scan a link.

[Edited on 11.07.2011 3:37 PM PST]

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Banned just for calling someone retarded? lolBnet mods
Duardo = retard

So you think Reach is an actual Halo game, huh? LOL
Jesus! There's a BoB in ma Falcon!


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[quote]Posted by: gamesager butbud
this
Nice try. I actually know how to scan a link.
But you dont know how to quote properly

LMAO

  • 11.07.2011 3:38 PM PDT

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Posted by: Ryz
If you're not here to bash Campaign Hero, then your opinion is void.


Posted by: Junior Exec

Posted by: Campaign Hero

[quote]Posted by: gamesager butbud
this
Nice try. I actually know how to scan a link.
But you dont know how to quote properly

LMAO

Tried to erase the link from my post.

  • 11.07.2011 3:39 PM PDT

E-Thugs: Because calling people out in real life can be dangerous.

You'll have vanilla Reach, which you have the gist of by now with all the bile on the forums. And 343s Reach, which seems like an impostor, still using unfixed things from vanilla Reach with a blend of past halo's that don't mix well together.


So why doesn't anyone actually try and tell 343i what we really want? This isn't Mark Zuckerberg with Facebook, it's not like they lock their doors and refuse to check the mail. If people are really as frustrated as you say, then why don't people stop complaining on B.net and actually say something to 343i? Just a thought.

  • 11.07.2011 6:52 PM PDT

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Posted by: x0v3rKiLx
They were thinking of the TRUE Halo fans that want it back. That's who. Not the Reach-tards that worship the almighty statue of Armor Lock and pray to the gods of grenade spam and the goddesses of double melees.

U mad? U bad? U jelly?


A to the Mother-blam!- Men! GIVE THIS MAN A MEDAL!

  • 11.07.2011 7:16 PM PDT

IT IS A TEST! 343 will not keep it. My guess is 343 is bringing it in to see if it fits with other Reach weapons for a new CEA/Reach playlist they are probably putting in. By the way, Reach is way more balanced than other games, it's just you fans of spray and pray don't like the pacing and aiming that comes with the DMR and magnum.

  • 11.07.2011 7:18 PM PDT

look out he has A HALO CE PISTOL RUN FOR YOUR LIVES

  • 11.07.2011 7:21 PM PDT

Now day...wait...nvm i'm tired.

I for one am somewhat glad it will be back, makes for a more classic pistol feel, I know what my new favorite weapon will be:P

  • 11.07.2011 7:23 PM PDT

Forget it man, and get with the countdown. Shake this square world and blast off for Kicksville.

Reach host ranking algorithm: (a*quit_percentage + b*isMexican + c*(1/KDR) + d*hasGuest) * 100
where a > b = d > c

Posted by: theShabbyCrowd
By the way, Reach is way more balanced than other games, it's just you fans of spray and pray don't like the pacing and aiming that comes with the DMR and magnum.

You'd have to stop sucking so much ass before you could even begin to analyse game balance.

  • 11.07.2011 7:25 PM PDT

Please don't hype for games...
They'll just fall short of your expectations and you'll complain for months.

I'd actually agree. With auto-aim and bullet magnetism, it's much easier to use than the true HCE pistol.

  • 11.07.2011 7:26 PM PDT

Forget it man, and get with the countdown. Shake this square world and blast off for Kicksville.

Reach host ranking algorithm: (a*quit_percentage + b*isMexican + c*(1/KDR) + d*hasGuest) * 100
where a > b = d > c

Posted by: Alpha00
I'd actually agree. With auto-aim and bullet magnetism, it's much easier to use than the true HCE pistol.

I'd love to know how all you guys have played the actual Anniversary Slayer playlist before the game's been released.

I mean, obviously you're all aware that the behaviour of the ZB Reach magnum with bleedthrough has nothing to do with the CE magnum whatsoever. I'm sure none of you would be so stupid as to confuse the two.

  • 11.07.2011 7:28 PM PDT


Posted by: Darknova24

Posted by: theShabbyCrowd
By the way, Reach is way more balanced than other games, it's just you fans of spray and pray don't like the pacing and aiming that comes with the DMR and magnum.


excuse me? really? most balanced game? please. one word: AL. done. i countered your agrument. i have plenty more to follow

Maybe your next post should use the English language too?

  • 11.07.2011 7:38 PM PDT

Will the new Magnum be in Campaign, too? Or just MM?

[Edited on 11.07.2011 7:53 PM PST]

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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
A real test of a man is if he is willing to scrape a sharpened razor up and down his junk just to please a woman.


Posted by: x0v3rKiLx

Posted by: Campaign Hero

Posted by: x0v3rKiLx

U mad? U bad? U jelly?

I've been playing Halo custom edition since '09 but the CE pistol in reach is just OP.


And I played Halo CE for the first time probably at age 9 or so, and I'm a month away from 19 now. I I've grown up on the CE magnum. The whole point is that it IS overpowered. That way those with skill live and those without it die. That's the way it's supposed to be.
Anyone can use the CE pistol effectively at some level because this is a console shooter. Everyone is aiming at about the same level because of aim assist and a lot of bullet magnetism. Yes, there are obviously exceptional marksmen who win headshot weapon battles a majority of the time, but every weapon in the Halo games is effective at a base level to even newer players because of aim assist. However, having a low entry barrier to a game is a good thing since it doesn't shut new players out who are trying the game. I'm not saying aim assist is bad by any stretch of the imagination, but to say that any one weapon should be more powerful than the entire weapon sandbox is just a waste of developer resources since no one will be using any other weapon than the god weapon.

[Edited on 11.07.2011 8:34 PM PST]

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