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Banned just for calling someone retarded? lolBnet mods
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So you think Reach is an actual Halo game, huh? LOL
Jesus! There's a BoB in ma Falcon!


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im a cawk monger


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  • 11.08.2011 12:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: Junior Exec
im mad cause i'm bad


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  • 11.08.2011 12:45 PM PDT

Haven't you said this just about every month for the past year? Seriously.
:/

  • 11.08.2011 12:46 PM PDT


Posted by: Zomechin
You just twisted the argument. I never said results of customization couldn't make the game more casually enjoyable.

Also, Action Sack really isn't all that casual at. It is simply more varied and easier to play, neither of which dominantly define casual gameplay.

So what does define casual play? The progession and sense of accomplishment? As I said before, that has never been in Halo beyond medals, which are awarded. Changing that would change Halo far too much.
Posted by: Zomechin
No, the ability is neutral and the effects can be slightly casual or hardcore.


Slightly? It can change a game on the same map from being Dino blasters to being MLG CTF 5 with totally different movement speeds and armor abilities (if any). Those are more than slight changes. Open your eyes. Some games have very little customization, but this one is drastic enough to say it changes a LOT of the game. Half the awesome MLG maps/Action Sack maps wouldn't exist without Forge, for example.
Posted by: Zomechin
I consider Halo CE and Halo 2 to be competitive, I consider Halo 3 to be moderately competitive, and I consider Reach to be only slightly competitive.

The Halo 2 BR was pathetically easy to use! Hitscan across the map, wide hitboxes, four shots to kill, shot forgiveness (if you missed the first bullet, you'd be able to connect with the other two), etc. Halo CE was never tested over Live to begin with. You'd have to see how it held up with people across the world playing to see if it were truly competitive.

Posted by: Zomechin
To have a competitive game, you have to:
-Have a primary weapon that is hard to use
-Have fast movement acceleration (not movement speed, as fast movement plagues the game with the 'ice-skating' feel, which is arguably disorienting)
-Have a fine line between individual input needed as well as team input
(...and other more obvious factors)

Reach has none of those.

1) How are the DMR/NR not difficult to use? They require headshots, can be played with or without bloom now, and they force the user to choose between the risk of missing shots and firing fast, or reward of shooting shots slowly, but potentially dying in the process of waiting for bloom to reset (assuming bloom, of course). Neither can be sprayed in the direction of the opponent with shots being correccted the way the Needler or AR can.
2)Fast acceleration would lead to a fast movement speed anyway. Acceleration is the rate at which your velocity changes. If your velocity changes quickly, yes, you'll stop on a dime (which I don't really have a problem with in Reach, honestly) but you'll be moving again just as quickly; fast movement speed.
3) Reach is a team based game, plane and simple. One can defeat the other in individual skill at certain firefights, but it's about set ups and map control.


I think through this discussion you are missing the bigger point here. People aren't leaving Halo because of a lack of anything. Not everybody abides to your personal checklist of what a game needs to be enjoyable. Halo has always offered its own style of gameplay which Reach is similar to. It is simply not what the people want anymore. It's not the series which changed so much as the people's desires. This can happen, has happened, and does happen. Don't blame the individual game for failing when dozens of others haven't taken down the new giant yet either. Call of Duty's styles are what people want now and changing a franchise to be different from what it has always been to simply mimic the current champion will alienate everybody.

  • 11.08.2011 12:59 PM PDT

Hi.

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  • 11.08.2011 1:01 PM PDT
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Banned just for calling someone retarded? lolBnet mods
Duardo = retard

So you think Reach is an actual Halo game, huh? LOL
Jesus! There's a BoB in ma Falcon!


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im mad cause my cawkmongling technique isn't working


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  • 11.08.2011 1:03 PM PDT

Your presence here is quite unneeded. Begone you!!!

Guess people can adapt to so much to the gimmics that are out there already. Just like how a franchise can only adapt to so many gimmics people want.

  • 11.08.2011 1:04 PM PDT
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Everyone has been say "within blah blah blah" Reach will be dead (since day one). It's been over a year and Reach still has a population.

  • 11.08.2011 1:07 PM PDT

Hi.

One part I feel like arguing:
Posted by: An average gamer
2)Fast acceleration would lead to a fast movement speed anyway. Acceleration is the rate at which your velocity changes. If your velocity changes quickly, yes, you'll stop on a dime (which I don't really have a problem with in Reach, honestly) but you'll be moving again just as quickly; fast movement speed.
No, acceleration has nothing to do with speed.

You can have a max speed of 50k/h for both accelerations. The only difference would be how quickly you reach the max speed.

  • 11.08.2011 1:08 PM PDT


Posted by: Zomechin

I'm tired of it too. Truce.

  • 11.08.2011 1:10 PM PDT

I love Reach! ^_^

By the way; I can't wait for CEA!

  • 11.08.2011 1:14 PM PDT

why are you guys making a big deal out of this i bet halo is Quote just getting started (:




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  • 11.08.2011 1:21 PM PDT
Subject: It's kind of depressing...

Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
Goat was famous. Irie was infamous. Gh0st was FaMaS.

Play CoD

  • 11.08.2011 1:44 PM PDT
Subject: This is depressing...

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Goat was famous. Irie was infamous. Gh0st was FaMaS.


Posted by: burritosenior
Haven't you said this just about every month for the past year? Seriously.
:/
You of all people didn't notice goat left for a couple months?

  • 11.08.2011 1:45 PM PDT
Subject: It's kind of depressing...
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Posted by: LASEM
Bungie messed Reach up. They didn't follow the canon, they aren't supporting the game, it's just annoying.
Bungie attempted to give 343 the middle finger by messing Reach up and hoping to deter fans from buying any other Halo and also by giving everyone Blue Flames and the Star nameplate

  • 11.08.2011 1:48 PM PDT
Subject: This is depressing...

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Posted by: burritosenior
Haven't you said this just about every month for the past year? Seriously.
:/
You of all people didn't notice goat left for a couple months?
I noticed because suddenly it seemed like the community got a lot nicer in this forum, sure. But while here, hasn't he made a thread like this just about every month?

  • 11.08.2011 1:49 PM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

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Posted by: DerpRoids
RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.

Here's to the sad CoDification of a once fun video game series.

I hope you all look forward to watching M$ sit on the crapper and squeeze out a "fresh" Halo every year from now to 2020.

  • 11.08.2011 1:50 PM PDT


Posted by: burritosenior
I noticed because suddenly it seemed like the community got a lot nicer in this forum, sure. But while here, hasn't he made a thread like this just about every month?


Noooo. He made threads saying how broken certain parts of the game are. This is different. It's asking why the game is dying and expressing disappointment therein.

  • 11.08.2011 1:52 PM PDT

Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
Goat was famous. Irie was infamous. Gh0st was FaMaS.


Posted by: burritosenior
Posted by: SkyFighta65

Posted by: burritosenior
Haven't you said this just about every month for the past year? Seriously.
:/
You of all people didn't notice goat left for a couple months?
I noticed because suddenly it seemed like the community got a lot nicer in this forum, sure. But while here, hasn't he made a thread like this just about every month?
No.

What's funnier is that you care so much about it.....I mean if you won't be interested in the thread don't click on it.

What would Bungie do?

  • 11.08.2011 1:53 PM PDT

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People don't like change.
People want Master chief.
That's pretty much all there is to it...


This

Also other Shooters have come out that are more appealing to other people.

Bungie didnt mess up on Reach they tried to do something with what they were given. Since the rift, Microsoft/343 has been working on halo 4 so bungie maybe couldnt do anything MC related.

So they took the 4 games they made Halo, halo 2, halo 3, ODST. took the best parts of them, added new things and made Reach. Reach is a great game but it was too much change for some so called Fans.



No, retard, it isn't just that there was change. It was all the retarded, unnecessary changes that were made and poorly implemented, like bloom, grenades, armor abilities, canon, and the ranking system.

Some changes were not needed, and they don't work as intended.
ARE YOU SERIOUS BRO?! Still flaming on a dead forum. Awesome

  • 11.08.2011 1:54 PM PDT
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Posted by: burritosenior
I noticed because suddenly it seemed like the community got a lot nicer in this forum, sure. But while here, hasn't he made a thread like this just about every month?


Really? I haven't noticed a change in attitude at all. Lack of activity? Yes.

  • 11.08.2011 1:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

Posted by: SouthPoIe
Clone is an internet God.

Posted by: DerpRoids
RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.

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Posted by: burritosenior
I noticed because suddenly it seemed like the community got a lot nicer in this forum, sure. But while here, hasn't he made a thread like this just about every month?


Really? I haven't noticed a change in attitude at all. Lack of activity? Yes.

You can't be mean when you aren't saying anything.

  • 11.08.2011 1:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: Coux73
Posted by: burritosenior
I noticed because suddenly it seemed like the community got a lot nicer in this forum, sure. But while here, hasn't he made a thread like this just about every month?


Really? I haven't noticed a change in attitude at all. Lack of activity? Yes.

You can't be mean when you aren't saying anything.


Exactly my point. :)

  • 11.08.2011 2:01 PM PDT

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Posted by: A 3 Legged Goat
I'm a big Halo fan. I bought my Xbox for H2 and the 360 for Halo 3. Been playing since CE in 2002 and I never thought I'd see the day when Halo was no more. Been with this forum since VGA reveal.

This game and forum are pretty much dried up by now. What happened to my favorite game series? Why is it that when you mention Reach, all people do is laugh in disgust? Is the laughter their way of showing their disappointment?

Within 6 months, Reach will be a thing of the past. How could a Halo game be so short-lived? These games used to last for years. Reach barely even lasted for one. 343i's forums aren't even as active as this one used to be.

Do you think CEA will revive Reach somewhat, or is Halo just a fad beginning to burn out?




Uh, I think you have selective memory. Most of the "activity" on the reach forums were complaints. So many complaints, all about the same thing. It's almost always been negative. The 343 forums don't have as many negative people, so it's not as "active".

I still play halo, and it is my favorite FPS. Nothing is dry about the game to me, but maybe because I always play with friends. There is still plenty of players to go around. If you actually got into a serious and legitimate argument about Halo Reach VS other FPSs, Reach would win most of the time.

Halo 3 is disgustingly laggy compared to Halo Reach. Game play was fun if you got a good connection, and it did have a lot of skill involved, but Reach's gameplay is much smoother for me. I'm sure you're thinking "But Armor Lock and JetPack!", there are game modes if you want to play more competitively. It caters to casuals, and non-casuals. CoD BO requires no skill, all you need is the right gun, thumbs, and to spray and pray. I haven't played BF3 yet (besides the beta, which was horrible) but I heard that was a good game. Otherwise, Reach wins against most FPSs on the xbox according to me.

Sure Reach could be better, but so could many other games. Instead of pointing out Reach's cons to other games pros, maybe you should compare cons to cons, and pros to pros.

/opinion


  • 11.08.2011 2:11 PM PDT
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Halo: Reach is the beginning of a new age for gaming.
It proves that developers can get away with punishing their players instead of fixing their game....and yet the fanboys will still sing praises to them.

-blam!- all of you fanboys!

It's not just a game that makes everyone feel like a winner at all times...

It's more popular because:

1: The playlists are seperated by gametype
2: It has join in progress
3: It doesn't try to ban you for quitting out of a match you don't belong in.

CoD wins this battle because it has a superior multiplayer matchmaking service.

Everyone is always -blam!-ing about skill level of players. Why? Because none of them can make a system that properly sorts by skill level. Trueskill is a myth.

So... People quit to do what trueskill couldn't.
CoD properly handles this.
Halo does not.

If the negative -15 guy quits. Who cares?
He might get replaced by someone who can actually hold around 1/1 and be an actual contributing member to the team instead of a punching bag in a game that they do not belong in.

But The competitive half of this community said
"NO! We don't want that!"
"We Prefer having them quit anyway, getting banned.. and we're still raping these few dumbasses who are actually scared enough of the ban to remain here in the game and pad our K/D Ratio's for us instead!"


Seriously. Blame the competitive half of the community for killing this game. Because they are -blam!- clueless, to how stupid they think. This game was compeletely catered to them. Yet they still think bungie catered it to casuals.

Casuals got -blam!- OVER! on Reach. You're stupid to think otherwise.


Bloom as an example.

What overcomes bloom? Teamwork, team shooting.

Causal = Solo player, no com, no team
Try Hards = Team player, plays in full teams mostly vs random solo casuals. Has Teamwork.

And These hardcore players are -blam!-ing about bloom catering to casual players? Are you -blam!- kidding me?!

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  • 11.08.2011 2:11 PM PDT