- Heliossoileh1
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δόξει τις ἀμαθεῖ σοφὰ λέγων οὐκ εὖ φρονεῖν.
Euripides, Bacchae. 480.
Posted by: JBSpudster
Posted by: Heliossoileh1
I've visited several fora. The moderating here is by far the worst. Note that warnings and a significant proportion of bans cannot be appealed, and even when able members are discouraged from doing so.
Just because you can appeal a ban doesn't mean you should or that it will happen. The appeal process isn't there for members who knew they did something wrong and are just trying to test their luck, which seems to be how most users go about the appeal process. If you blatantly break a rule, then you should pay the price and view it as a learning experience.
Sure. I was simply pointing out that citing the appeals system as evidence that the moderating here is good is misleading, since that appeals system is inadequate.
Posted by: JBSpudster
Warnings and bans should be promoting the user to learn what is and isn't acceptable behavior.
Pity they don't. I still wonder what my three day ban, the specified reason for which was "Play nice", has to teach anyone.
Posted by: JBSpudster
I've always viewed the appeal process as being there for when a ban doesn't have that affect, such as when another opinion is really needed for rule clarification or when an accidental ban is given. I've been to so many other communities where the user isn't given that opportunity, and it sucks. We've got it a lot easier than most.
That's very idealistic, and hardly the reality. Again, moderators are given too much discretion when it comes to enforcing the rules, so that "rule clarification" only amounts to "clarification of the rules as that particular moderator interprets them". Add to this that penalties are inconsistent-note Recon Number 54's claim that he would permanently ban a member for simply confessing to having pirated software in the past, whereas many moderators likely wouldn't even consider this worthy of a warning, and what's left is a system that's utterly broken.
[Edited on 11.10.2011 10:28 AM PST]