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Subject: Do you think the moderation is harsh?
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Mods here a quite lenient compared to other forums that I frequent.

  • 11.11.2011 7:43 AM PDT

Posted by: Lord Pyro
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The mods here are some of the most lenient I have seen, providing you don't make threads. I feel that 90% of bans are for the people that create threads instead of post in them.

  • 11.11.2011 8:14 AM PDT

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Posted by: Duck duck DEATH
There should be more moderation in moderation.
Yo dawg, we heard you like moderation, so we put some moderation in yo moderation.

The moderation is only harsh when they ban me. All other times they are just. (Is what most of us are thinking)

  • 11.11.2011 8:23 AM PDT
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Posted by: r c takedown
Yax is a shining beacon in these dark times. You should all strive to be more like Yax.

Posted by: RighteousTyrant
Posted by: Yax
That's the same as pirating. It's worse even.
No it isn't. It is exactly the same: theft.
It's the same as in that they are both theft but I'd say physically stealing something takes a morally worse person than just somebody who clicks a few buttons to steal digital content.

Most people wouldn't shoplift but when it comes to piracy it's harder to see that you are, in fact, stealing.

Posted by: Old Papa Rich
It's impossible to completely divorce yourself from all emotions. However, I don't see this as a rash, angry reaction. It's an application of context. In this case, he is arguing that it is utterly unacceptable to use this forum, proivided by people who make a living selling software, to discuss stealing software. Where is the anger?
Because he seems to be very passionate about it. Like they have disrespected Bungie and he needs to punish them for it.

Of course it's hard to read tone through text and I could be completely wrong but the topic just seems to anger him.

  • 11.11.2011 8:30 AM PDT

Hi I'm RT and I like to argue!

Posted by: Yax
Posted by: RighteousTyrant
Posted by: Yax
That's the same as pirating. It's worse even.
No it isn't. It is exactly the same: theft.
It's the same as in that they are both theft but I'd say physically stealing something takes a morally worse person than just somebody who clicks a few buttons to steal digital content.

Most people wouldn't shoplift but when it comes to piracy it's harder to see that you are, in fact, stealing.
So killing someone with poison is less morally reprehensible than killing them with a knife? Because the poison is harder to see?

  • 11.11.2011 8:33 AM PDT
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First of all, this has become a argument over ethics (a really touchy subject that can be very opinionated). Second of all, what does killing someone have to do with theft (other then deviance against the written norm)?

Posted by: RighteousTyrant
Posted by: Yax
Posted by: RighteousTyrant
Posted by: Yax
That's the same as pirating. It's worse even.
No it isn't. It is exactly the same: theft.
It's the same as in that they are both theft but I'd say physically stealing something takes a morally worse person than just somebody who clicks a few buttons to steal digital content.

Most people wouldn't shoplift but when it comes to piracy it's harder to see that you are, in fact, stealing.
So killing someone with poison is less morally reprehensible than killing them with a knife? Because the poison is harder to see?

  • 11.11.2011 8:37 AM PDT
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Posted by: r c takedown
Yax is a shining beacon in these dark times. You should all strive to be more like Yax.

Posted by: RighteousTyrant
So killing someone with poison is less morally reprehensible than killing them with a knife? Because the poison is harder to see?
I wouldn't necessarily say it's "less morally reprehensible" but I definitely think it would take a morally worse person to kill somebody with a knife than poison. One is brutal and gory which takes a more determined/"evil" man.

It's like if you gave somebody a button to push that killed a specific person for them without them seeing it or getting involved. Or gave them a rusty spoon and the man's address.

Not everybody that pushes the button would be willing to brutally kill a man with a spoon.

One feels easy and "clean", less morally/guilt taxing. Just like downloading content from the safety of your home would feel more normal and okay than shoving video games down your underpants and walking out of the store.

Posted by: Izak609
First of all, this has become a argument over ethics
And semantics.

  • 11.11.2011 8:56 AM PDT

Learn to accept people interest.

Just use common sense and you will never be banned.

  • 11.11.2011 9:13 AM PDT

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They have been pretty fair to me.

  • 11.11.2011 9:44 AM PDT
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Nothing to see here citizen.

Sometimes they can be quite strict

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[Edited on 11.11.2011 11:23 AM PST]

  • 11.11.2011 11:22 AM PDT

Hi I'm RT and I like to argue!

Posted by: Yax
Posted by: RighteousTyrant
So killing someone with poison is less morally reprehensible than killing them with a knife? Because the poison is harder to see?
I wouldn't necessarily say it's "less morally reprehensible" but I definitely think it would take a morally worse person to kill somebody with a knife than poison. One is brutal and gory which takes a more determined/"evil" man.

It's like if you gave somebody a button to push that killed a specific person for them without them seeing it or getting involved. Or gave them a rusty spoon and the man's address.

Not everybody that pushes the button would be willing to brutally kill a man with a spoon.

One feels easy and "clean", less morally/guilt taxing. Just like downloading content from the safety of your home would feel more normal and okay than shoving video games down your underpants and walking out of the store.

Posted by: Izak609
First of all, this has become a argument over ethics
And semantics.
I think you're confusing poor morals with a high tolerance for gore. I see what you're getting at, but my point is this: killing is killing, just as theft is theft. Doesn't matter how clean, easy, or hard to see it is.

  • 11.11.2011 11:32 AM PDT
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[*Co-something about how ethics are very opinionated at times-ugh*]

Posted by: RighteousTyrant
I think you're confusing poor morals with a high tolerance for gore. I see what you're getting at, but my point is this: killing is killing, just as theft is theft. Doesn't matter how clean, easy, or hard to see it is.

  • 11.11.2011 11:35 AM PDT

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Posted by: x Foman123 x
No, not really.

Your the only harsh one Foman! All my bans come from you... and Recon.

  • 11.11.2011 11:43 AM PDT

Hi I'm RT and I like to argue!

Posted by: Izak609
[*Co-something about how ethics are very opinionated at times-ugh*]

Posted by: RighteousTyrant
I think you're confusing poor morals with a high tolerance for gore. I see what you're getting at, but my point is this: killing is killing, just as theft is theft. Doesn't matter how clean, easy, or hard to see it is.
What's funny is that I think almost everyone agrees that stealing is wrong, but some people fail to recognize some forms of stealing for what they are--especially when they themselves do it.

  • 11.11.2011 11:45 AM PDT

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Doesn't seem like it, they always pass out warnings first, typically.

  • 11.11.2011 11:45 AM PDT
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Huh? If you want to further discuss ethics, I suggest you make a topic in the flood.

Posted by: RighteousTyrant
What's funny is that I think almost everyone agrees that stealing is wrong, but some people fail to recognize some forms of stealing for what they are--especially when they themselves do it.

  • 11.11.2011 11:53 AM PDT

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Posted by: x Foman123 x
No, not really.

  • 11.11.2011 11:54 AM PDT

Hi I'm RT and I like to argue!

Posted by: Izak609
Huh? If you want to further discuss ethics, I suggest you make a topic in the flood.
LOL

  • 11.11.2011 12:18 PM PDT

Key

He's obviously saying it in reference to the OP's topic, so it's an applicable post.
Posted by: Izak609
Huh? If you want to further discuss ethics, I suggest you make a topic in the flood.

Posted by: RighteousTyrant
What's funny is that I think almost everyone agrees that stealing is wrong, but some people fail to recognize some forms of stealing for what they are--especially when they themselves do it.

  • 11.11.2011 12:23 PM PDT
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Yeah, I still stand by what I said though. Rules or not.
Ethics debates are fun as heck, if everyone is into it.
Posted by: CrazzySnipe55
He's obviously saying it in reference to the OP's topic, so it's an applicable post.
Posted by: Izak609
Huh? If you want to further discuss ethics, I suggest you make a topic in the flood.
Posted by: RighteousTyrant
What's funny is that I think almost everyone agrees that stealing is wrong, but some people fail to recognize some forms of stealing for what they are--especially when they themselves do it.


Edit: Besides, what I had in mind for a reply has nothing to do with the original topic.

[Edited on 11.11.2011 12:30 PM PST]

  • 11.11.2011 12:27 PM PDT

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While it's been said already, the mods here are far more relaxed than those a Waypoint.

  • 11.11.2011 12:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: Dead Orbit
Like they ban people for innocent fun a lot?
Only when foman has a bad day at work.
Like when Foman has a sad face? A long face? (Sorry, I couldn't resist.)

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  • 11.11.2011 1:13 PM PDT

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I think it's fair. It's just that a lot of jerks who are on the business end of the ban button don't think it is.

  • 11.11.2011 1:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: Yax
I think a permanent ban with no warning is definitely too harsh.


Here's the warning.

Bungie does not permit behavior or content related to illegal activities. If you violate the law, you will be responsible for the consequences. You agree not to use Bungie Web Sites to publish, post, distribute, or disseminate defamatory, infringing, obscene, or other unlawful material or discussion. This includes, but is not limited to, child -blam!-, bestiality, incest, illegal drugs, software and other forms of piracy, racketeering, money laundering, blackmail, murder, prostitution, slavery, lumpy pudding (if its not illegal, it should be), fraud, cannibalism, theft, vigilantism, harassment, and acts of treason.

You can find it in the Code of Conduct. While some people may not have read it, you're expected to follow the rules therein. You are never entitled to a warning. I'd actually go as far to say that the fact that we have them at all goes to show the kinder, gentler approach to moderating that the mod staff has taken since the days of olde.

Edit: Grammarfail.

[Edited on 11.11.2011 4:49 PM PST]

  • 11.11.2011 4:48 PM PDT