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Subject: Seven years

Words of wisdom all around, but no one ever seems to listen. The words are all around but the words are only sound. But nobody seems to listen. Instead they'll say, "Well how could we of known?" I'll tell em, "It's really not so hard to tell. keep adding stones, and the water gets lost in the well."

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I agree with much of what you say. Still, the slump was predicted. Have a little patience.

  • 11.10.2011 3:25 PM PDT
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Meh... It wasn't pessimistic enough for my liking.

  • 11.10.2011 3:41 PM PDT

Join SIP today! We smell good. Promise.


It's like a gigantic snowball, rolling down a mountain, eating kids on the way.

I agree with quite a bit of what you're saying.
However, id like to see how the situation changes when the new game comes out.

  • 11.10.2011 3:48 PM PDT

"I hope nothing, I fear nothing, I am free"
"A person needs a little madness, or else they never dare cut the rope and be free." - Nikos Kazantzakis
"The ink of the scholar is more holy than the blood of martyrs" - Hasan al-Basri
Black Chapter, for all religious and political debate that doesn't fit in the Flood.

Posted by: Skibur
Meh... It wasn't pessimistic enough for my liking.
Why does it need to be pessimistic? I'm sure there are plenty of other things that could be said. Personally, I'd have loved to have thrown in a load of stuff on member retention statistics, but that'll have to wait a bit.
Posted by: elmicker
-blam!- newbies, stealing my posts.
You were properly referenced and given due credit, ain't stealing. <3
Posted by: Harlow
4. Groups are as much alive as they were years ago. You don't look in the right places.
This feeds back into 'the classifieds suck' and 'finding groups is a nightmare'.

[Edited on 11.10.2011 3:58 PM PST]

  • 11.10.2011 3:55 PM PDT

Key


Posted by: Primum Agmen
Posted by: Skibur
Meh... It wasn't pessimistic enough for my liking.
Why does it need to be pessimistic? I'm sure there are plenty of other things that could be said. Personally, I'd have loved to have thrown in a load of stuff on member retention statistics, but that'll have to wait a bit.
He's a cynical person. I find it's best to nod your head and smile.

(Joking, of course, Skibur.)

  • 11.10.2011 3:58 PM PDT
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I was obviously joking too ;)

All in all it was ok. Nothing new or shocking.

  • 11.10.2011 4:01 PM PDT

cockburnicus@live.com
New Flood

Whatever. I just don't care anymore. You make a thread like this, you're "mad", everyone else gets "mad" and nothing ever changes.

  • 11.10.2011 4:07 PM PDT

"I hope nothing, I fear nothing, I am free"
"A person needs a little madness, or else they never dare cut the rope and be free." - Nikos Kazantzakis
"The ink of the scholar is more holy than the blood of martyrs" - Hasan al-Basri
Black Chapter, for all religious and political debate that doesn't fit in the Flood.

Posted by: Skibur
All in all it was ok. Nothing new or shocking.
The post says as much. Unless you want something like a Bungie Union to represent the downtrodden plebs, of course. A list of everyone banned, the post they were banned for and why, and then letting other members sift through so they could appeal the bans on behalf of a member who might not understand the appeals system? ;)

You are, after all, a great supporter of the common man and his right to form a union for the greater support and protection of himself and his interests from the capitalists and industrialists who care not for the well being of their lessers.

  • 11.10.2011 4:08 PM PDT
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  • 11.10.2011 4:25 PM PDT

Halo 2 was so freaking awesome

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“Strange,” mused the Director, as they turned away, “strange to think that even in Our Ford’s day most games were played without more apparatus than a ball or two and a few sticks and perhaps a bit of netting. imagine the folly of allowing people to play elaborate games which do nothing whatever to increase consumption.”

The Black Chapter!

I suppose I should feel duty bound to say that the Black Chapter is a buzzing hive of activity.

Well, maybe. But you'll never find out if you don't join!


Oh, and, in response to your post itself: I suspect that a significant majority of it can be traced back to the fact that you're growing old.

Too many children around, and the community has already reached it carrying capacity of grouchy old bastards, so you can't grab onto that role.

oh, and happy birthday.

[Edited on 11.10.2011 4:42 PM PST]

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Posted by: Telec
old.
nostalgia'd like -blam!-.

  • 11.10.2011 4:50 PM PDT

It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, not the lawyer, who has given us the right to a fair trial. And it is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves the flag, whose coffin is draped in the flag that allows the protester to burn the flag.Father Dennis Edward O'Brien, USMC

Har! All Hail The Grizzled Ancients! Prim I love you.

  • 11.10.2011 4:58 PM PDT
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Posted by: TGI Skuldier
Posted by: Chobo 66
I threw up on a girl while I was having sex.

Did you keep going?

I miss ObbiQuiet :'(

  • 11.10.2011 6:11 PM PDT

Posted by: Dropship dude
No, acnboy. Spartain Ken 15 is a lesser being. Much like the bacteria that lives in your shi­t.
Posted by: mike120593
My shi­t bacteria takes offense to that comparison.

Don't make me lel. You won't like me when I lel.

Posted by: Harlow
4. Groups are as much alive as they were years ago. You don't look in the right places.
hahahahahahahahahah
Ha
ahaa
HA
ha.

  • 11.10.2011 8:10 PM PDT

It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, not the lawyer, who has given us the right to a fair trial. And it is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves the flag, whose coffin is draped in the flag that allows the protester to burn the flag.Father Dennis Edward O'Brien, USMC


Posted by: random no337
Posted by: Harlow
4. Groups are as much alive as they were years ago. You don't look in the right places.
hahahahahahahahahah
Ha
ahaa
HA
ha.


Been over a year since bungies last game. We face this empty boring lag every time. Im serious. In between game bungie.net loses active members. Leave ing the mods and staff to take a -blam!- on the grizzled ancients just cuz we decided to stick around. Then a new game comes out and our super great mod staff expects us to teach the new guys. Its BS. Its Bungie. Damn me for loving Halo and Skibur.

  • 11.10.2011 8:14 PM PDT

‮‮Awesax

Ah crap I missed my 5 years ;-;

When will it be my turn to rant

  • 11.10.2011 8:16 PM PDT

We miss you Logan.
Ask any question. I'll help with anything on site or off.

I liked bungie.net before I left around 06-07. Now it's all changed in everything. I still enjoy it a little.

  • 11.10.2011 8:38 PM PDT
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Posted by: Telec
Remember kids: when Uncle Delta tells you he has sweeties, he isn't lying.

Now get in the van.


The Black Chapter


Posted by: elmicker
Posted by: Telec
old.
nostalgia'd like -blam!-.


The only film I ever cried to.

Also Primum, just like everybody else is saying, it is age.
A twenty something Manxman Engineering (I think) student who enjoys a good drink has very little in common with the average High School, sometimes even Middle School American.
I find that I tend only to come here for the people I know. The rest is just filler.

Irritating, repetitive filler.
But its your fault for sticking around for seven years. What a loser.

[Edited on 11.10.2011 8:41 PM PST]

  • 11.10.2011 8:40 PM PDT
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Posted by: random no337
Posted by: Harlow
4. Groups are as much alive as they were years ago. You don't look in the right places.
hahahahahahahahahah
Ha
ahaa
HA
ha.


Want to fight about it, fat boy

  • 11.10.2011 8:41 PM PDT

Intolerance is the highest level of stupidity and inbred thinking.

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First off, congratulations on making it through the seven years. Not many people last that long.

As for your points, I find that I'm sadly having to agree with each one. The issues you bring up where prominent when I joined three years ago, and as you said, I'm sure they where prominent a long time before me.

And it is true that much of the quality of content has been degrading. I remember when I first joined how the Flood forum was an enjoyable place to be and hold good discussion. Even then, it was still a mess, but what was happening then doesn't even pale in comparison to what is going on now. I find that I can't even visit the Flood forum anymore.

In general, I don't find myself participating much in the forums. I used to make hundreds of posts a day, but now it's a good week if I make one post.

Though, the one thing I'd like to add, is that, we can sit here and talk about the difficulties and the problems that have been around for years, but at the core, they're really not that big of a deal. The inconveniences and faults of this website never mattered much before. Now we just use them as an excuse. I think the biggest problem with Bungie.net is the separation in users.

When I first joined, new and old users interacted regularly. There where still the little cliques and such, but it wasn't bad. People still interacted with each other. Talked with each other.

Now, you have the new users, and the old users, and there isn't a lot of mingling. The old users avoid the new ones, since they're, well, new. And the new members avoid the old ones, because the older ones don't accept the new ones.

And that's the problem I see. It's not so much the flaws with the website, as it is with the community. Older members should take the time to interact with newer ones. Include them in conversation and help them learn the ropes. The veterans are spending their time reminiscing of the good old days, and they're letting the present slip away.

Maybe I'm crazy, I haven't slept much lately, but I think that the problems are something that the web team isn't going to be able to fix. It's something we need to fix ourselves. And yes, this may be the internet, and one shouldn't hold much faith in others on the internet, but we've still have a chance if people stop living in their own little worlds.

(Still want some group love from the web team though!)

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Posted by: deltahalo UK
The only film I ever cried to.
If you didn't cry at Up and/or Toy Story 3, you aren't a real man.

If you didn't cry at Up the first time, just read this then watch it.

Water. Works.

  • 11.10.2011 9:13 PM PDT

Rock Chalk Real Talk
Minnesotan, currently going to school at KU.


@Geegs30

I didn't find much I disagree with. I think one thing that Bungie is really going to have to reconsider going forward here is member retention like you said. That issue can get combined with an updated Title System or something else that could make people want to come back to this place and want to hold on to a single account for a long period of time (while playing nice and not being a jerk).

  • 11.10.2011 9:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: Telec
Remember kids: when Uncle Delta tells you he has sweeties, he isn't lying.

Now get in the van.


The Black Chapter


Posted by: elmicker
Posted by: deltahalo UK
The only film I ever cried to.
If you didn't cry at Up and/or Toy Story 3, you aren't a real man.

If you didn't cry at Up the first time, just read this then watch it.

Water. Works.


To set your mind at ease Elmo, I've not seen either of those.

Also sad link is sad

[Edited on 11.10.2011 9:43 PM PST]

  • 11.10.2011 9:40 PM PDT
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Ad Astra Per Aspera

Experienced In Life's Little Drama

Why do people think the "good old days" will come back? Times change, people change......and more importantly, the internet changes. Sure, it would be nice to live in the prime time of our lives on this forum, but as fate would have it, responsibility kicks our ass left and right. As much as I love b.net and the people on it, my job and family will always come before b.net. I don't post nearly as much as I used too and I do hate how the Flood has pretty much turned into a toilet bowl, but I'll still come back from time to time when I get a chance. As for user titles, they are meeh to me, but I like the pretty blue because......it is blue?

Hmm, my seven years will be in about a month... I should have a forum drinking contest to celebrate my seven years

  • 11.10.2011 9:41 PM PDT

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