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Subject: Halo CEA Terminals ~ SPOILERS AND SPECULATION

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Posted by: Commander Stroll
Still using a pump-action shotgun over 500 years in the future I see.

omg not realistic stop game production plz

Just decided to search those terminal number sequences on Google for fun. Will return with anything that's happened.

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Posted by: CoolCJ24
Just decided to search those terminal number sequences on Google for fun. Will return with anything that's happened.


They are just IP addresses. i doubt they are stellar coordinates..


Did you find any hidden audio? could you get a transcript for the last terminal? halopedian isn't updated yet (Go figure).

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  • 11.16.2011 11:42 AM PDT

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I really didn't feel like reading this entire thread, so this may have been brought up already.

I don't remember exactly what the Covenant AI said, but when watching it's terminal for the first time, I got this feeling that it may have been Forerunner, as in a copy of a Forerunner one.

Does anyone else remember Cortana's comments regarding the Covenant AI she encounters in First Strike? Again, I don't recall what exactly was said, but I do remember her mentioning that it seemed...off. That same AI was also where she gained her ability to copy herself, if I recall correctly.

Maybe all Covenant AIs are faulty copies of Mendicant Bias?

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Posted by: grey101Technically, Bornstellar is the Didact now.

...just saying.

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Posted by: Primo84
I really didn't feel like reading this entire thread, so this may have been brought up already.

I don't remember exactly what the Covenant AI said, but when watching it's terminal for the first time, I got this feeling that it may have been Forerunner, as in a copy of a Forerunner one.

Does anyone else remember Cortana's comments regarding the Covenant AI she encounters in First Strike? Again, I don't recall what exactly was said, but I do remember her mentioning that it seemed...off. That same AI was also where she gained her ability to copy herself, if I recall correctly.

Maybe all Covenant AIs are faulty copies of Mendicant Bias?



I feel that 343 would be able to detect that though but your idea isn't a foolish one.
The issue is the prophets (even truth) wouldn't mess with AI's especially Bias; since they are what caused the forerunners to fall (again Bias).


The Best though would be that these AI's are ether


1) The covenant AI's are copied from age old covenant AI's from a time before they knew of Bias.

2)The prophets at some point messed with forerunner AI's in secret (or before knowledge) and these are the remnants.

3) The AIs are fragmented UNSC AI's that were messed up more by engineers for covie purposes.


Good idea. I feel like this is just a nod to the book but at the same time i think this could be something more.


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Posted by: Primo84
Posted by: grey101Technically, Bornstellar is the Didact now.

...just saying.


What statement did i say? and we both know i know that.

Regardless Both Didacts are dead and that is staying until we can get a transcript of the last terminal.

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Posted by: grey101
3) The AIs are fragmented UNSC AI's that were messed up more by engineers for covie purposes.
That was actually brought up by Cortana in First Strike.

Might be right.

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Posted by: grey101
3) The AIs are fragmented UNSC AI's that were messed up more by engineers for covie purposes.
That was actually brought up by Cortana in First Strike.

Might be right.


Thats what i am saying by it being a reference.

But it still seems odd. the whole "I wasn't created" then again modifying isn't creating..

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Posted by: grey101
What statement did i say?
"The didact is and has been dead"^There^Regardless Both Didacts are deadYou don't know that.and that is stayingLol; is that an order?

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3) The AIs are fragmented UNSC AI's that were messed up more by engineers for covie purposes.
That was actually brought up by Cortana in First Strike.

Might be right.


Thats what i am saying by it being a reference.

But it still seems odd. the whole "I wasn't created" then again modifying isn't creating..
Then AI from Ascendant Justice was noted by Cortana to have been using "fractured" logic. It's code showed signs of it having been copied countless times, leaving it damaged.

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Posted by: grey101
What statement did i say?
"The didact is and has been dead"^There^Regardless Both Didacts are deadYou don't know that.and that is stayingLol; is that an order?



The original Didact was killed by the master builder.

IRIS, Halo Legends, and the Halo 3 Terminals show that he died with the array. Which is why It is staying unless the transcript from the last terminal shows that 343 was talking currently and not in past tense.

Because he said "If she was here he would have to be here too" which is why we need the transcript. in other words Present and supporting info> what you think might have happened.

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Oh boy. I just watched it................... (tried resisting!, but my tv is in my new house sooo)

I like these so much! Especially the visual style! It explains so much :D

More analysis! Lets go!

Oh boy, so this is hinting at the Didact going on a killing spree?? He's still alive? Timeless One...... :O

Interesting.... I have yet to read Glasslands so I may have not gotten all the references. What is that ship?

I really like where Halo is going, and I love at the end when the galaxies' lights go out.....

It seems to be focused on the big picture. As big as it can get. A true galactic war. Maybe even extra-galactic.

Forerunners, Humans, Pre-historic Humans(?), Flood, Precursors. This is exciting! I was skeptical about the storytelling ability 343 had but now i'm plain excited! It is so rare to have a huge story evolve over this amount of time!

I'm a fan of Mass Effect but that's not even close to this scale. We are on the cusp of a new era. This story is crazy! I love it.

And we do have 2 more forerunner books :D!



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The didact is and has been dead 343 was simply saying "What if". which is why he said "is she were here that means he would too"; they are dead.

Don't see how The Timeless one is involved in any terminal. If you haven't read Cryptum then don't talk about it. We don't know what the ship is.



No no no. Forerunners relocated, Ancient humans are done, we don't know absolutely anything about the precursors.


Halo 4 takes place 4 years after halo 3 and the Return takes place 6 years after halo 3. Nothing about some gigantic galactic war was even implied then. The same stuff that should be happening is happening. None of the races are healthy enough to fight themselves let alone somebody else.

And 343 as been promoting the current dates that were set after halo 3. So it would be a waste and very unprofessional of them to completely change everything after accepting it.


Meaning none of that garbage you or blue ruby want is going to happen.


Sorry man.....

I didn't know that it came off so demanding and unintelligent. I wrote this at 1am and was just flustered by the sudden surge of information with the terminals...

I was never setting anything in stone, I was just seeking potentials, which clearly you have disproven which is ok. I have also read Cryptum so I don't know what the issue is.

I'm just here in the discussion like everyone else. You don't need to *facedesk me. Just a simple correction would've sufficed :)

That being said, your reasoning is interesting too! I'll go take a read :)

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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I am an ass get use to it. and i said *Facebook* not desk.


Just brush up on cryptum again if you get the chance. I've read the book 4 times now.

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Posted by: chotato
smart, interesting, seems out of place.


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Posted by: ajw34307
Well, that's yet to be seen. I noticed a sort of nod to Glasslands, Spark says that the ramifications of someone else gaining control over a Halo Ring would be catastophic and that there are "long plans" referring to that, and in Glasslands humanity have discovered Installation 03.

I can see it, if the Forerunners are the enemy then there would well be a battle for Installation 03 at5 some point.


Personally, I think it'll be the Timeless One trying take the rings and the Forerunners working with Humanity to stop him. Also, lets hope humanity doesn't get stupid and unlock some doors without shotguns and flamethrowers.

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Posted by: chotato
smart, interesting, seems out of place.


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The Keyes one made me sad. Odd how less than 3 minutes can add so much depth to one character.

  • 11.16.2011 4:44 PM PDT

Straight Edge.

343i has done good. I'm now much more interested in Halo 4 than I was before.

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So the Forerunner Council killed the Didact?

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Posted by: I Em I Raptor
So the Forerunner Council killed the Didact?


The Master builder did without approval.

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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: I Em I Raptor
So the Forerunner Council killed the Didact?


The Master builder did without approval.


Didn't Didact plan to destroy the rings or something along the lines of that if they were even slightly compromised? Is that the motive?

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Posted by: CM Punk
343i has done good. I'm now much more interested in Halo 4 than I was before.


This, I found those stories very rich and interesting. IF they can pull it off with Halo 4 it will be a blockbuster in the hearts of Halo fanatics.

  • 11.16.2011 5:32 PM PDT

A poster on Halo.xbox.com submitted this new terminal video, called Threshold -

link to YouTube Threshold Video

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Posted by: Oddley765
A poster on Halo.xbox.com submitted this new terminal video, called Threshold -

link to YouTube Threshold Video


Ahh yes! I wonder if there are more secret terminals more!

People are saying *hint* *hint* Halo 2 remake..... but, that's probably just a little nod to Halo 2 :). I'd really want an H2 remake though.... favorite game of the series :)

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Posted by: grey101
I am an ass get use to it. and i said *Facebook* not desk.


Just brush up on cryptum again if you get the chance. I've read the book 4 times now.


Oh yeah i'm sure, you've been here a long time :). And yes I apologize *FaceBook*

I loved Cryptum, I guess I just have to read it a couple of times more! Can't wait for the sequels.

And I'm too lazy to quote your post below, but how exactly was the Didact killed again? I read Cryptum awhile ago and I don't quite remember. Did the Master Builder just kill him on that planet where the San'Shyuum was and why did he kill the Didact?

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Posted by: Agustus
I lol'd at the absurd miscommunication that occurs whenever dibbs post something. Perhaps his brain is so highly evolved that he can no longer clearly communicate with lesser life forms, even among his own species.

I really should give this the attention it deserves but due to lack of time I would really like to get to the heart of one issue; specifically this dialog.

Covenant A.I: We follow the path and I am part of the [stone journey?] swarm that serves. I, we, serve. They will find and then I will be free.

343 GS: Find? Free? Explain yourself.

C.A.I.: I know their path and when they have gone, only I shall remain and then: free.
Assumptions I'm fairly certain of -

-The Covenant A.I. knew the true purpose of the array and wanted it to fire.
This could be because he had access to the Prophet's communications (I believe they knew the true purpose of the array at the time) but this is unlikely. First of all he's a dumb A.I. Second, he was serving aboard the Truth and Reconciliation; not answering directly to the Prophets himself. How did he know about the ring's true purpose?

-The Covenant A.I wanted the ring to fire so he could be "free".
Why would a dumb A.I. desire freedom? Would it even know what freedom is? While it's interactions with GS are fairly simplistic, it certainly has a complex agenda in mind designed to achieve a certain end (manipulate the Covenant into releasing the Flood and/or firing the ring so that he could be "free").

My personal thoughts on the matter are that the Reach Data Pads are finally coming into play (they are the one element of the story that has profound implications yet doesn't really connect to any other part just yet). Perhaps the Committee isn't just comprised of Human A.I.s? Were there Forerunner A.I.'s (M.B. or perhaps O.B.) left behind to take charge and lead the A.I.s the indexed species would inevitably create (via the Committee)?

Just questions to ruminate over; but I am pretty sure that the Covenant A.I. was not acting alone.

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Well they are human AI's since they blocked off onyx for housing dangerous forerunner tech.

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