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Who cannot stand the graphics in CEA?
Halo 3 is a better looking game, and its 4 years old.

  • 11.15.2011 9:03 AM PDT

there alright i guess what pisses me off most was the dmr and pistol were to be changed and their not stick same -blam!- crap

  • 11.15.2011 9:48 AM PDT

my only complaint so far lies in the facial and mouth stuff, the graphics for terrain and architecture are very nice.

  • 11.15.2011 9:48 AM PDT

I die a little inside every time I see another badly animated cutscene. I can barely look at cortana she is so ugly and badly animated. The characters are flicky and captain keys constantly bobs his head when he talks. Anybody else notice that in the end cutscene for Two Betrayals Master Chief would have walked into the wall if cortana hadn't stopped him?

So I'm extremely disappointed with the new, what appear to be rushed cutscenes, but I think the gameplay is really fun with the new visuals and sound effects. Haven't finished the Maw yet, but I can't wait for the warthog run.

I think I like the classic music a lot more as well

  • 11.15.2011 10:22 AM PDT

Beta Tau

I accept the graphics for what they are... I always loved the original Halo CE graphics but I do enjoy the new visuals.

  • 11.15.2011 10:59 AM PDT

Is it possible to turn off the new sound effects? I really hate the sound of the pistol, it sounds like a cod pistol or something.

  • 11.15.2011 3:02 PM PDT

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you can go into the options and change the soundtrack back to the original

  • 11.15.2011 3:05 PM PDT

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Posted by: elrjc225
my only complaint so far lies in the facial and mouth stuff, the graphics for terrain and architecture are very nice.
Yeah, Johnson and Keyes' lips were a bit strange.

  • 11.15.2011 7:43 PM PDT

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Keys makes me cringe...he looks NOTHING like the old model

  • 11.16.2011 4:55 AM PDT


Posted by: Muzzbug
I die a little inside every time I see another badly animated cutscene. I can barely look at cortana she is so ugly and badly animated. The characters are flicky and captain keys constantly bobs his head when he talks. Anybody else notice that in the end cutscene for Two Betrayals Master Chief would have walked into the wall if cortana hadn't stopped him?

So I'm extremely disappointed with the new, what appear to be rushed cutscenes, but I think the gameplay is really fun with the new visuals and sound effects. Haven't finished the Maw yet, but I can't wait for the warthog run.

I think I like the classic music a lot more as well


This is completely misleading.

The animations are ALL THE ORIGINAL ANIMATIONS. All they did was layer a graphics engine on top, therefore you hate how the new graphics look with the old animations, not the animations themselves. I almost guarantee if they had created new animations you would be complaining about those as well.

The fact is that ten years because the graphics were not as detailed Bungie had to make the characters gesticulate alot in the animations to convey emotion/personality. Now that the graphics are up to date the animations seem strange. It is similar to the acting differences between Theatre and Movies: In Theatre the actors have to make their movements larger and more expressive as the audience isn't that close to the stage and would have a hard time reading the actors. In movies the audience is closer so the actions of the actors don't need to be nearly as expressive.

In other words: Halo CE's animations are outdated and the new graphics show it, it is not the new graphics fault.

  • 11.16.2011 7:23 AM PDT

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Actually, Gears of War ONE has better animations and graphics than Halo CEA's. But, it was expected: since the very trailer of Halo 2, all Bungie's products has been dissapointing.

Anyways, we got some maps to play on Halo Reach (Halo REACH!!!!: the poorest multiplayer of all the series), yet, that's the way it goes.

ps.- Oh, forum's owners: you may delete this post as you deleted my former opinion, the one I stated when the Reach's beta was online. But IT'S STILL THE TRUTH. So, have it your way.

  • 11.16.2011 9:37 AM PDT
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Posted by: Sofis 1 noob
Actually, Gears of War ONE has better animations and graphics than Halo CEA's. But, it was expected: since the very trailer of Halo 2, all Bungie's products has been dissapointing.

Anyways, we got some maps to play on Halo Reach (Halo REACH!!!!: the poorest multiplayer of all the series), yet, that's the way it goes.

ps.- Oh, forum's owners: you may delete this post as you deleted my former opinion, the one I stated when the Reach's beta was online. But IT'S STILL THE TRUTH. So, have it your way.

I disagree

  • 11.16.2011 10:21 AM PDT
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Obviously anyone who is playing Anniversary and whining about the new graphics engine and sound effects, doesnt understand why the people who dont mind it think they are wrong.

Most of us are probably playing Anniversary so that we can experience the nostalgia of re-playing one of the first EXTREMELY popular games of the market, only now we get to see how it should have looked 10 years ago. No, the graphics dont match up perfectly with the animations, and as someone has said earlier, you'd probably complain even more if they would have gone and COMPLETELY remade the game. In which case the nostalgia would be lost because it wouldnt be Halo: CE.

If you don't like it then just gop into the options and turn it to classic mode and if you dont like the new sound effects just change the sound options back to classic too.

Oh and more than likely without the innovations that bungie brought to the table combined with all the other new graphics software that we didnt have 10 years ago, Gears of War one, would look nothing like it did.

  • 11.16.2011 10:36 AM PDT

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  • 11.16.2011 4:26 PM PDT


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Obviously anyone who is playing Anniversary and whining about the new graphics engine and sound effects, doesnt understand why the people who dont mind it think they are wrong.

Most of us are probably playing Anniversary so that we can experience the nostalgia of re-playing one of the first EXTREMELY popular games of the market, only now we get to see how it should have looked 10 years ago. No, the graphics dont match up perfectly with the animations, and as someone has said earlier, you'd probably complain even more if they would have gone and COMPLETELY remade the game. In which case the nostalgia would be lost because it wouldnt be Halo: CE.

If you don't like it then just gop into the options and turn it to classic mode and if you dont like the new sound effects just change the sound options back to classic too.

Oh and more than likely without the innovations that bungie brought to the table combined with all the other new graphics software that we didnt have 10 years ago, Gears of War one, would look nothing like it did.


Agree completely. I get the feeling that many of the people complaining either never played the original, or weren't fully aware of what they were buying with CEA, or both.

A lot of people seem to think that the game was going to be a new, fully re-built game running on the Reach engine. I believe what 343 were trying to do was improve the game's graphics without overdoing it to the extent that it looked like another version of Reach. They were trying to remain sympathetic to the original.

  • 11.17.2011 1:24 AM PDT
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You can tell 343 doesn't have the same magic that we saw with the original Bungie team that made Halo. I don't care if Frankie is over at 343, there is just something off. The game is solid, but definitely not some great remake.

It's really too bad they couldn't make the game look better than this. Either the 360 just can't handle it, or they got lazy. The game would have been better if they at least put in the original multiplayer for system link players. Give us something.

This really was just an expensive map pack for Reach. Terminals are cool, but not worth 40 dollars.

  • 11.17.2011 3:32 AM PDT

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Posted by: MC187
It's really too bad they couldn't make the game look better than this. Either the 360 just can't handle it, or they got lazy. The game would have been better if they at least put in the original multiplayer for system link players. Give us something.

Halo CE did not have netcode for multiplayer, which is why it was technically incapable of being transferred to the Xbox.

Seriously guys, stop complaining. I'd like to see you one day become a games producer, and then feel what it would be like to have young tykes moan and fart on about what they didn't get. This community sucks and you're not helping.

  • 11.17.2011 3:46 AM PDT
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The original game did have system link though. Why couldn't they include the original multilayer that only works offline?

It just feels like this was more about a way to make money than giving the fans what they want. They did a good job with campaign but throwing in reach multiplayer is just lazy.

  • 11.17.2011 12:29 PM PDT


Posted by: LongMasterWolf
This is completely misleading.

The animations are ALL THE ORIGINAL ANIMATIONS. All they did was layer a graphics engine on top, therefore you hate how the new graphics look with the old animations, not the animations themselves. I almost guarantee if they had created new animations you would be complaining about those as well.

The fact is that ten years because the graphics were not as detailed Bungie had to make the characters gesticulate alot in the animations to convey emotion/personality. Now that the graphics are up to date the animations seem strange. It is similar to the acting differences between Theatre and Movies: In Theatre the actors have to make their movements larger and more expressive as the audience isn't that close to the stage and would have a hard time reading the actors. In movies the audience is closer so the actions of the actors don't need to be nearly as expressive.

In other words: Halo CE's animations are outdated and the new graphics show it, it is not the new graphics fault.

I don't think I understand what you're saying. They aren't the original cutscenes or animations. 343 put new cutscenes in with new camera angles and character movements. Master Chief moves a lot more when he's talking compared to the original cutscenes.

I'm happy they redid the cutscenes, but I'm just put off by the quality of the movements that the characters make. They are flicky and could have been made to look a lot better and more fluid. The dialogue is very badly out of sync in some places. I just can't take them seriously anymore and prefer to watch them in classic mode.

And I'm not blaming the new graphics, I think they look great

  • 11.17.2011 2:37 PM PDT

When I stop and stare at the environments, I can't help but think CEA's the best looking Halo game. Bungie's games were nice, but there was always something holding them back (post Halo 2). They lacked a certain amount of detail, which CEA has. Levels have so much more life, but they don't compromise the Halo art style. Some vistas look so damn beautiful.

  • 11.17.2011 9:05 PM PDT

I think they really messed up on the facial animations (and in many cases, the modelling as well) and it kind of has me worried for the new Halo trilogy. While I expect it to look more natural by then, I really wasn't expecting this. Cortana has a derp moment during the Chief's first meeting with Keyes. My Xbox broke a couple of weeks ago so I only got as far as Truth and Reconciliation at my girlfriend's so I don't know what else may lie in store for me.

I really dislike how they lowered the weapons in the first person projection, at least with the Assault Rifle. I really liked the original position. Ah well. The sniper rifle looks really odd in that position, though. Since it seems to be unaltered from its Reach counterpart, it really doesn't blend well with the reticle in the middle of the screen, unlike the other Halo games.

I'm on the fence as to the new camera angles and events during the cutscenes. I really loved the way the original opened, with the ring showing itself as the screen fades from black, with that eerie musical intro.

Despite all this, what I REALLY love is that finally, we have some next-gen shadow tech rearing its head! It's nice to see trees and objects casting shadows on the first person weapons and other objects properly. I definitely won't miss the old lighting and shadowing system, and I'm kind of shocked and upset that Reach didn't initially do so, especially with the redesigned engine.

I still think this game looks absolutely gorgeous, and I can't wait to see what the new trilogy will look like, as well as the rest of the game once I get my new Xbox. I'm really looking forward to The Maw! As far as I'm concerned, the only thing truly holding back the graphics is the use of the original terrain meshes for the ground. However, that is to be expected, and I don't find it detracts much at all, anyway.

I think Halo 3 is easily the best looking Halo game still. I only wish it had the shadow tech that CEA has.

  • 11.18.2011 12:25 AM PDT
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I am wondering whether they ported the PC version of the game, rather than the Xbox version. The graphics in Classic mode seem a little off.

  • 11.21.2011 1:59 PM PDT

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eventually ill be back on Reach and CEA. i enjoy gaming for fun, im a great player and i enjoy smoking while i play. so any chill players feel free to add me. I in NO way support halocharts; old username.

i grew up on 8-bit games, some of them remain some of the better games of all time so graphics arent too much of a factor for me.

  • 11.21.2011 8:49 PM PDT

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It's still the same game I don't mind the graphics because they're way too advance which is cool.

  • 11.22.2011 8:15 AM PDT

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