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Subject: A very relevant Reach related topic.(hopefully it wont get locked)

Harass the harassers.

This is a conversation that was taking place in a thread deemed off topic,but this is about reach,feel free to jump in and comment on the topic as you understand it.And I hope Acid see's it and we can continue the debate.




Posted by: AcidThe Wraith


I get what your're saying, but Armor Lock slows down individual kills, and its intended purpose is lost and the side-effects of it have been abused.

If it could only stop one grenade and damage dealt by vehicles, I think that it would be a great AA.

Are we agreed on bloom now?


Posted by: Plunderfuq


We could do the -blam!- for tat argument like this,sprint allows players to escape death by allowing a player to gain cover when they normally would not have reached without and gives a bonus to the sword lunge that is incredibly deadly,if they reduced the amount and speed of sprint it would be more balanced and would allow the game to progress quicker,but lets not do that acid.While we have never spoken about this and I cant remember seeing anything posted by you on the subject,let me see if I can guess your preferance.You would prefer a higher default speed and if there were to be abilities,they would be pickups,thusly making it an earned item and requiring skill to obtain.You believe this would "add" to the skill needed for the game and therefore make it better for the competitive and the casual player.Simply handing the power to the player cheapens the "skill" needed to be "good".Before I progress any further Acid,tell me,hows my aim?

11.15.2011 1:51 PM PST




  • 11.15.2011 2:11 PM PDT
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I'm fine with the new movement speed, nice stereotyping though. lol


Sprint is fine because it allows you too do one thing, run. Armor lock makes you invincible for six seconds, which doesn't balance. It, like sprint, should just compensate for the slower movement speed by allowing you to take one grenade or damage dealt by vehicles.


But we agree on Bloom now right? You seem to be ignoring that..

  • 11.15.2011 2:17 PM PDT

AAs are a crutch that allow bad players to survive when they shouldnt

Bloom is a random crutch that allows bad players to survive when they shouldnt

/thread

  • 11.15.2011 2:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: AcidThe Wraith
I'm fine with the new movement speed, nice stereotyping though. lol


Sprint is fine because it allows you too do one thing, run. Armor lock makes you invincible for six seconds, which doesn't balance. It, like sprint, should just compensate for the slower movement speed by allowing you to take one grenade or damage dealt by vehicles.


But we agree on Bloom now right? You seem to be ignoring that..
Acid I dont know what we are agreeing on,besides that to differant degree's and in differant ways the guns in most modern games have what could be interpreted as recoil.Do you like it, no, do I like it, I actually dont care,as long as everbody is on an even footing Im ok with it one way or the other, I have no choice, because I am not making the game.I have to accept the parameters of the game I bought and the way it was made.
Now the AA nerfing argument,Acid if it were adjusted the way you want,another AA would then become the one exploited because it has become the new "OP" "newb" or whatever "mechanic" of the game.Then a new set of people would have a very rational,well thought out,well articulated argument as to why we now need to reduce,adjust (insert the future mechanic that is exploited because it gives the player the biggest advantage in the game).
As to you being fine with the new default speed,thats not what I asked,what I asked is, was that your "preferance",in other words, would you prefer a higher default speed and powers to be picked up?

  • 11.15.2011 3:13 PM PDT
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My Level. Get on it.


Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.


Posted by: X El BaZzA X
AAs are a crutch that allow bad players to survive when they shouldnt

Bloom is a random crutch that allows bad players to survive when they shouldnt

/thread

  • 11.15.2011 3:19 PM PDT

Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
Goat was famous. Irie was infamous. Gh0st was FaMaS.

My stats in Halol 4

Typical Waypoint post.
no it's "its got to go" you wouldn't say the "it is got to go" would you?

Stop having keyboard aneurysms.

  • 11.15.2011 3:21 PM PDT
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Posted by: KIBOSH
They should just make an HLG playlist then you guys can hide against each other and see how much fun it is.


Posted by: X El BaZzA X
AAs are a crutch that allow bad players to survive when they shouldnt

Bloom is a random crutch that allows bad players to survive when they shouldnt

/thread

  • 11.15.2011 3:27 PM PDT

R.I.P. Halo 2 <33333333
Do not play halo much anymore. Barely ever come on here.


Posted by: X El BaZzA X
AAs are a crutch that allow bad players to survive when they shouldnt

Bloom is a random crutch that allows bad players to survive when they shouldnt

/thread
THIS.

  • 11.15.2011 3:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: X El BaZzA X
AAs are a crutch that allow bad players to survive when they shouldnt

Bloom is a random crutch that allows bad players to survive when they shouldnt

/thread
Allright,Ive got a perfect specimen,oh man I hope you read and repond to this,cause your the perfect example.Here we go,plunderdames is gonna look deep into your soul and read your mind.

You match the description in the OP perfectly,I just know it,but you will have to verify that,but to be honest ,as you have logged and impressive 12000+ games of Halo 3, your record mirrors your opinion exactly.
You want it to be like a mix of Halo 2 (zero bloom) and Halo 3 (pick up powers)bloom=randomness=imperfect and believe allowing people to have an ability that they did not "earn" is a corruption of the pureness of Halo,thus making Reach a debacle of unbelievible preportions.You beleive that this is preventing you from dominating more than you are.Your record puts you roughly in the top 5% of reach players and somehow reach and its mechanics is preventing you from being in the top 1%.Maybe in 2/3 you were top 1% or 2% and thus the frustration with reach,it knocked you down 2% to 3% and that is obviously the games fault.So tell me,how close did I get,I bet I just bullseyed.

[Edited on 11.15.2011 3:40 PM PST]

  • 11.15.2011 3:39 PM PDT

Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
Goat was famous. Irie was infamous. Gh0st was FaMaS.

My stats in Halol 4

Typical Waypoint post.
no it's "its got to go" you wouldn't say the "it is got to go" would you?


Posted by: Gh0st is Bad
Stop having keyboard aneurysms.

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My Level. Get on it.


Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.


Posted by: Plunderfuq


-blam!-, you're really dumb.

  • 11.15.2011 3:45 PM PDT
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Its pretty obvious you're not ignorant to why bloom and AL don't work. So, you are just trolling, not having a real debate.

Weaksauce, I was really hoping you wern't.

  • 11.15.2011 3:47 PM PDT

Harass the harassers.


Posted by: AcidThe Wraith
Its pretty obvious you're not ignorant to why bloom and AL don't work. So, you are just trolling, not having a real debate.

Weaksauce, I was really hoping you wern't.[/quote]

Posted by: Gh0st is Bad

Posted by: Gh0st is Bad
Stop having keyboard aneurysms.


quote]Posted by: SouthPoIe

-blam!-, you're really dumb.


These are your responses when you cant figure out how to respond,lets see Im an "ignorant troll",Im "having an aneurysm" and lastly the ever high minded retort of, "-blam!- your really dumb".Gentleman if this were a debate,you just lost and badly.You have no response except for insults and somehow I am the troll.All of you that have responded in such a fashion about this subject and also fit the descriptions provided by me are in for a treat,read the next paragraph.
Halo and FPS games are changing apparently faster and in ways you do not care for,we all know this as you fill thread upon thread upon thred with your opinion,an opinion that was relevant five years ago,but in the current market,this will not appeal to the vast majority of game players and therefore,drum roll please...............game buyers,which allows publishers to stay in buisness.Those days of "pure" halo are over and the only way you are going to get that back is if they re release Halo 2/3 as they did with CEA but even then the amount of players willing to spend the money on a game from years ago will be limited,even if it has a new engine and skin.Im sorry.

  • 11.15.2011 4:07 PM PDT

Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
Goat was famous. Irie was infamous. Gh0st was FaMaS.

My stats in Halol 4

Typical Waypoint post.
no it's "its got to go" you wouldn't say the "it is got to go" would you?

I can't read your wall of retardation. Debate? You lost the debate when you had to resort to generalizations and ad hominems instead of actually addressing problems and reasonings.

This is you.

Hopefully you can get out of your log cabin and learn what a real education is.

  • 11.15.2011 4:12 PM PDT

It seems that you're mad.

Understandable.

I would be mad too if I couldn't understand half of the words the other person was saying.


Posted by: SouthPoIe

Posted by: Plunderfuq


You're really dumb.

  • 11.15.2011 4:15 PM PDT
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My Level. Get on it.


Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.


Posted by: Plunderfuq

which allows publishers to stay in buisness.Those days of "pure" halo are over and the


Is that why Reach is number 6?
Reach sucks because it isn't "pure" Halo.

You have no argument. You have retarded opinions with nothing to back them up. We just enjoy laughing at you.
If you actually had a valid point, you would get actual responses.

  • 11.15.2011 4:18 PM PDT

Harass the harassers.


Posted by: AcidThe Wraith
Its pretty obvious you're not ignorant to why bloom and AL don't work. So, you are just trolling, not having a real debate.

Weaksauce, I was really hoping you wern't.
Acid I understand that you dont like it,I understand why you dont like it,what am I supposed to do?Wait for every thread I get an oppertunity to tell people what trash Reach is right before I go play for hours a week and continue to do so for months almost a year?Dude,how on earth does that make sense,this is not even debating its more like venting and if that what it is,then I suppose I need to stop wasting your time.
Reach is what reach is,4 will be what 4 is and Im not sure if you believe that your doing this for the betterment of the halo brand,but I must tell you,for the casual player,the constant complaining and accusations of ignorance and noobage is more damaging to the Halo brand than AA times 5.

[Edited on 11.15.2011 4:42 PM PST]

  • 11.15.2011 4:24 PM PDT

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Posted by: SouthPoIe

Posted by: Plunderfuq

which allows publishers to stay in buisness.Those days of "pure" halo are over and the


Is that why Reach is number 6?
Reach sucks because it isn't "pure" Halo.

You have no argument. You have retarded opinions with nothing to back them up. We just enjoy laughing at you.
If you actually had a valid point, you would get actual responses.
Reach is number 6 because of a recent market saturation of great games,its a year old and the model for CE ,2 and 3 as in large gaps between releases will not work,the attention span of the average consumer does not support that type of supply.Simply put,you have to put somthing shiny in front of the dullards.This is the way it is and it appears 343 and MS are in on that as the release of CEA and 4 will be within a year,one can only assume there will be some future map packs in between,Is that an actual response or are you gonna lolmarket trends?

[Edited on 11.15.2011 4:43 PM PST]

  • 11.15.2011 4:41 PM PDT

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Posted by: Team Throwback

Posted by: SouthPoIe

Posted by: Plunderfuq


You're really dumb.
Run along little boy *pats on head*,the grown folks are trying to have a talk

  • 11.15.2011 4:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: Gh0st is Bad
I can't read your wall of retardation. Debate? You lost the debate when you had to resort to generalizations and ad hominems instead of actually addressing problems and reasonings.

This is you.

Hopefully you can get out of your log cabin and learn what a real education is.
I look nothing like your humerous link,while I write with bad structure, the logic contained is sound,I have answered ever question posed with a response that didnt include "retarded" as the reason why anybodies argument or veiw is invalid.You however cannot claim the same,try using retard and a funny picture in a formal debate and see how well its received by the judges.

  • 11.15.2011 4:50 PM PDT