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Subject: Quality of Halo anniversary as compared to original Halo 1 game

343(and bungie who made these mistakes in the first place), you just don't get it do you? What makes a game is more than just one weapon, its a system of designs of weapons, movements, and grenades. In your attempt to remake Halo 1 multiplayer, you totally failed. In Halo 1, you could shoot across the map on large levels like Hang Em High. In this remake of yours, you can't because the pistol has such bad aim. I was playing just the other day, and the entire enemy team was all out in the open, using NO COVER, which you had to constantly do in Halo 1 because of the pistol. This means the game style and skill level is nothing like Halo 1 because people can be as reckless as they please.
Another important topic is the grenades. Grenades are very simple to design- You make them blow up slowly, and have large explosive radiuses so that you can plan a move and force somebody to move into your attack. Grenades are not for just randomly blowing people up because they can't see the grenades and the grenades blow up really fast. Yet in your remake of Halo 1, you removed this essential element of grenades, and kept your poor excuse of grenades that blow up almost instantly and randomly bounce around. You did make them blow up slower, and bounce more, but they still blow up almost instantly after done bouncing. I must say, maybe the bounciness does help it get around cover to force people out, but the fact that it blows up right after, makes it so somebody can randomly get hit by it without the chance to avoid it, so that noobs can use grenades and get kills with them without planning. Horribly done, and nothing like the original game.
And this leads me to my next point. Without the ability to push guys out of cover with grenades, people can camp with shotgun. That's all people do with the shotgun in this game. And due to that, you purposely made the shotgun poor at far range so that you could only camp with it. The shotgun was good at almost any range in Halo 1, because its slow shots did good damage, but it sucked at shooting people while being out in the open. The use of the shotgun in Halo 1 was to use grenades to lure them into a point blank shot, or to push them back and shoot once while peeking out of cover, and tactics such as these. Horribly done, which is actually mainly a cause of your removal of the grenades making it so people HAVE TO camp with the shotgun to do well with it.
Not only all that, but you guys failed to bring back the 2x zoom sniper rifle. The sniper rifle was not about range in the first Halo, it was about waiting for somebody to come around and shoot their head off before they had a chance to shoot you. In fact, the sniper had delayed shots so that you had to wait for them, rather than just shoot randomly.
Not only all this, but the plasma rifle still is not back. Before, it slowed enemies down so that you could close in and do a melee attack. Now, all it does is drain shields making it a trashy weapon.
And lets not forget about teleport melee attacks. It RUINS up close combat. In halo 1, even at upclose combat you had to plan your moves and plan your shots. In Anniversary, you just keep meleeing as long as you are close. In halo 1, you could close in on somebody with a grenade and quickly run in and punch, rather than teleport to the target. Even if somebody was really close to you in Halo 1, you could easily back off and they wouldn't be able to melee you. The melee system of your new games are HORRIBLE!!!! Do you honestly think there is skill in just jumping in circles and randomly meleeing when you are 5 feet away? WOW!
You poor poor morons. You have no idea how to design. You honestly think that one weapon is what makes or breaks a game? Its a combination of movements, grenades, balance of weapons, balance of tactics, all kinds of elements. And you morons thought that just bringing back a 3shot pistol would solve all that. Let me give you a hint- I played Halo 1 not long before you guys released this Halo Anniversary game. The two games are NOTHING alike. Halo 1 has totally unique tactics, and a unique playstyle. But you morons will always keep your same old Halo Reach noob tactics, while pretending that you brought back Halo 1 when really you didn't. -blam!- you 343 (and bungie for making these mistakes in the first place). Thats all.

[Edited on 11.22.2011 5:03 PM PST]

  • 11.17.2011 1:24 PM PDT
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Posted by: DerpRoids
RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.

Please use enter twice to break up the lines.

Like this.

  • 11.17.2011 1:24 PM PDT

My stats

I'm retired

Holy wall of angry text.

  • 11.17.2011 1:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

Posted by: SouthPoIe
Clone is an internet God.

Posted by: DerpRoids
RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.

Bungie didn't make CEA.

343 was in charge of CEA.

And CEA uses lolReach for it's multiplayer.

  • 11.17.2011 1:26 PM PDT

This is actually the stupidest thing ever posted on B.net:

Posted by: the omega man117
Why does everyone hate Halo 2? Maybe its because its the worst game ever next to mario.

Space out your paragraphs man and I will come back to give it another whirl. You need to make your post easy to read...don't make it one big wall.

  • 11.17.2011 1:26 PM PDT

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China called....

  • 11.17.2011 1:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

Posted by: SouthPoIe
Clone is an internet God.

Posted by: DerpRoids
RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.

Posted by: Balbazak
China called....

And said Hylebos made better walls.

  • 11.17.2011 1:28 PM PDT


Posted by: Balbazak
China called....


They want there wall back.

  • 11.17.2011 1:28 PM PDT


Posted by: RC Clone
Posted by: Balbazak
China called....

And said Hylebos made better walls.


FAIL

That is not a wall, at least he had the decency of creating paragraphs...

  • 11.17.2011 1:30 PM PDT

Posted by: ReachForCheapWep
Bungie,

Stopped right there.

  • 11.17.2011 1:34 PM PDT


Posted by: BravoZulu
Posted by: ReachForCheapWep
Bungie,

Stopped right there.

^This

  • 11.17.2011 1:36 PM PDT

So let me get this straight... Because I have a true opinion that reach has cheap weapons, you stopped reading my post? Let's look at the implications of this. Firstly, you are obsessed with thinking you are a pro, and you don't want to admit that's true when everyone knows it is. Next, it implies you are an -blam!-, because you stopped reading even though I have good points. Glad we got that over with.

  • 11.17.2011 1:41 PM PDT

My stats

I'm retired

You seem mad.

  • 11.17.2011 1:42 PM PDT

Oh by the way, I got an onyx rating in Reach. I play a game for skill not for showing off and being an ahole. Even if i'm good at a game, if i'm good just because I know how to be cheap I dont play it.

  • 11.17.2011 1:43 PM PDT

Anyways, I posted this so people could comment or argue with me which none of you have. Go away, if you are just going to tell me im wrong and not tell me why. Oh and also, is there a way of sending bungie this feedback? I think they need to understand what they did wrong.

  • 11.17.2011 1:46 PM PDT

By the way don't just call it a wall of angry text, when it has solid info in it. Everything I said was true.

  • 11.17.2011 1:50 PM PDT
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343i made CEA, not Bungie.

  • 11.17.2011 1:53 PM PDT

Untill you start -blam!-ing at 343i and not bungie you're going to sound like an idiot every time.

  • 11.17.2011 1:53 PM PDT

Posted by: ReachForCheapWep
So let me get this straight... Because I have a true opinion that reach has cheap weapons, you stopped reading my post?

Cool strawman argument. I liked the part where you blindly assumed I think I am pro.

That in mind, I actually disregarded your post because of your poor crediting of the wrong company to the rest of your complaints. Seeing as you then assign arbitrary pretexts to my character, I can't help but call your entire judgment under question.

However, if you are actually a troll, then you are quite successful. Fooled me!

[Edited on 11.17.2011 2:06 PM PST]

  • 11.17.2011 2:05 PM PDT

See my vids on Youtube http://www.youtube.com/user/Chronicler177

This moron HAS to be a troll. There's no excuse for this amount of stupidity.

  • 11.17.2011 2:06 PM PDT

Tom Achronos
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twitter: http://twitter.com/Achronos

"I have no words that would do justice to the atrocities you commit to the English language, as well as your continued assaults on the concepts of basic literacy and logical reasoning."

Bungie employees such as myself regularly read the forums. However, your complaints about Halo Anniversary's multiplayer are misdirected. Bungie was not involved in the creation of Halo Aniversary (you'll note that our logo is not on the box anywhere, for example) - we also didn't make the multiplayer maps or the anniversary gametype settings.

You should probably be engaging 343i, as they are the stewards of Halo now.

Posted by: ReachForCheapWep
Anyways, I posted this so people could comment or argue with me which none of you have. Go away, if you are just going to tell me im wrong and not tell me why. Oh and also, is there a way of sending bungie this feedback? I think they need to understand what they did wrong.

  • 11.17.2011 2:18 PM PDT

"I'll tell you right now, if you ever see someone called ll wa1do ll... leave the game immediately. My friend knows him, I've been in his party a few times, do not mess with this guy. From what I've heard, he's the real deal. I also heard someone made a guy named Wa2do (similar to his name) and then he hacked that guy and boosted off his level." -From Minou on Bungie.net


Posted by: Achronos
Bungie employees such as myself regularly read the forums. However, your complaints about Halo Anniversary's multiplayer are misdirected. Bungie was not involved in the creation of Halo Aniversary (you'll note that our logo is not on the box anywhere, for example) - we also didn't make the multiplayer maps or the anniversary gametype settings.

You should probably be engaging 343i, as they are the stewards of Halo now.

Posted by: ReachForCheapWep
Anyways, I posted this so people could comment or argue with me which none of you have. Go away, if you are just going to tell me im wrong and not tell me why. Oh and also, is there a way of sending bungie this feedback? I think they need to understand what they did wrong.

Holy crap.

  • 11.17.2011 2:19 PM PDT

I reject your reality and substitute my own.

Well, you kind of made yourself look a bit silly, didn't you?

  • 11.17.2011 2:20 PM PDT
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Posted by: Horse Repairman
RC RuNz the internet. Like the superintendent.

Posted by: SouthPoIe
Clone is an internet God.

Posted by: DerpRoids
RC Clone is the anti-thesis of a lurker.

I sense a disturbance in the force.

Achronos in the Reach forum?

Utter chaos is on the way to this land.

  • 11.17.2011 2:20 PM PDT
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Posted by: Achronos
Bungie employees such as myself regularly read the forums. However, your complaints about Halo Anniversary's multiplayer are misdirected. Bungie was not involved in the creation of Halo Aniversary (you'll note that our logo is not on the box anywhere, for example) - we also didn't make the multiplayer maps or the anniversary gametype settings.

You should probably be engaging 343i, as they are the stewards of Halo now.

Posted by: ReachForCheapWep
Anyways, I posted this so people could comment or argue with me which none of you have. Go away, if you are just going to tell me im wrong and not tell me why. Oh and also, is there a way of sending bungie this feedback? I think they need to understand what they did wrong.


lock this thread NOW!!!

  • 11.17.2011 2:21 PM PDT

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