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Subject: Halo 4 will be nothing like Reach. (Video Proof)

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Halo 4/5/6 are going to fail.

Fact.


Yup. This isn't the first time 343i has back tracked and done/said the opposite of what they previously said. Lookit them, playing like the big boy devs that have been around for ages.
Have you seen the people working at 343i? They are all huge industry veterans.

Also when have they gone back on their word, so far they have done everything they said they would.


Reaaaaaaaaaaaaally now?

Remember before they announced the TU?
"Reach is fine the way Bungie made it, it just needs a few tweaks here and there."
Result : Well, you saw OPs post.

"Reach playlists are going to stay the way they are, we like it that way."
Result : How about a nice game of Firefight Limited? Oh, right, you can't, because that playlist is gone.

"If people like the tweaks we make in the TU Beta playlist, you can expect to see these changes Reach wide within the next month or so."
Result : Uh huh, yeah ..... 2 months later .....

"We are going to provide a classic feel with the Anniversary map pack, and give you as close to a CE online multiplayer as we can."
Result : We're there AAs in CE? DMRs? No? Funny, you find them all in the Anni playlists.

Did everything they said they would? SURE SEEMS LIKE IT, EH?

As for 343i being industry vets ... would an industry vet need someone else to make their HD skin, to skin a game they didn't even code in the first place, and include multiplayer maps reskinned by another different group? If by 'vet' you mean "One who has been around long enough they see it fitting to have other people work on their flagship release, then sure, they are vets.

What was 343i founded for again? Oh right, as I have said before, making sure Halo games are still pumped out, and making money for Microsoft. Their first venture was the worlds biggest most interactive Halo ad. The first thing they did when they took over, was announce a new TRILOGY. Not a single game, no, three.

Halo 4 is going to blow, and people will still buy it, they'll pine for Reach, and hype Halo 5. Like they have been doing for ages.


....*facepalm*


Nice, thought out refuting of those points, bro. Oh right, you can't refute facts.

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"We are going to provide a classic feel with the Anniversary map pack, and give you as close to a CE online multiplayer as we can."
Result : We're there AAs in CE? DMRs? No? Funny, you find them all in the Anni playlists.

Huh.

Anniversary Classic.

Fact invalid.

Whats that a DMR? To replace the BR on a Halo 2 map called Beaver Creek?

  • 11.20.2011 2:12 PM PDT
Subject: Frankie says Reach was bad and Halo 4 will be nothing like Reach.


Posted by: WulfwoodsSins


Remember before they announced the TU?
"Reach is fine the way Bungie made it, it just needs a few tweaks here and there."
Result : Well, you saw OPs post.

- Well they did tweak the game a bit didn't they?-



"Reach playlists are going to stay the way they are, we like it that way."
Result : How about a nice game of Firefight Limited? Oh, right, you can't, because that playlist is gone.

- Playlist updates have always been a part of Halo dude-



"If people like the tweaks we make in the TU Beta playlist, you can expect to see these changes Reach wide within the next month or so."
Result : Uh huh, yeah ..... 2 months later .....

-Again there are monthly playlist updates and delays in plans happens-



"We are going to provide a classic feel with the Anniversary map pack, and give you as close to a CE online multiplayer as we can."
Result : We're there AAs in CE? DMRs? No? Funny, you find them all in the Anni playlists.

-Anniversary Classic mostly, I do also wish the entire playlist would be purged of AA's though-



Did everything they said they would? SURE SEEMS LIKE IT, EH?

As for 343i being industry vets ... would an industry vet need someone else to make their HD skin, to skin a game they didn't even code in the first place, and include multiplayer maps reskinned by another different group? If by 'vet' you mean "One who has been around long enough they see it fitting to have other people work on their flagship release, then sure, they are vets.

-They are busy with Halo 4, they have been working on the game for 3 years, also you really should check out the current list of 343i employes because it really is an impressive list

  • 11.20.2011 2:13 PM PDT
Subject: Halo 4 will be nothing like Reach. (Video Proof)

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Posted by: WulfwoodsSins
Nice, thought out refuting of those points, bro. Oh right, you can't refute facts.
Good points. I hope that they're not completely true.

Also, the Anniversary playlists have bleedthrough and less bloom, nerfed AL, and nerfed camo. They only did that for players, like me, who want to play the map packs with Reach's main settings.

However, one of the anniversary playlists has a 4 on 4 classic. Which is like CE.

For me, I like melee bleedthrough but I hate weapon bleedthrough. Melee bleedthrough could be toned down a bit. I'd nerf AL in a different way, but it's better than no nerf. I disagree with nerfing AC. I don' AC snipe, but I'm always the guy that's surrounded by enemies in their base hidden. 343i punished the minor ac snipers and the major ac infiltrators. I mainly use sprint though. These are my thoughts on the matter.

  • 11.20.2011 2:13 PM PDT
Subject: Frankie says Reach was bad and Halo 4 will be nothing like Reach.

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[quote]Posted by: redm0nkey
Even better points IMO. I just disagree with the AA part. I like AAs. We all have our opinions. :)

[Edited on 11.20.2011 2:15 PM PST]

  • 11.20.2011 2:15 PM PDT
Subject: Frankie says Reach was bad and Halo 4 will be nothing like Reach.

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Eh, I'm pretty sure Frankie said Reach was good.

lol@frankie'shypocrisy

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Posted by: Zdann
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*Cough* Halo 4 is using the Reach engine. *Cough*
Every Halo game has used the same engine.


not true, the halo 3 engine is not the same as the reach engine

  • 11.20.2011 4:16 PM PDT
Subject: Halo 4 will be nothing like Reach. (Video Proof)

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Agreed. All the changes are good and add variety. Do we really want another Halo 3? Just running around with one gun and no armor abilities? It's good that 343 wants to try something new. Do we really want the same thing for three more games?


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Lmao, Frankie basically said that Reach sucks and Bungie choked on it.

Awesome.

I'm liking 343 more and more every day.
Yup, I just wish we wouldn't have to pay to be able to play the TU.

  • 11.20.2011 4:17 PM PDT

Posted by: Recon Number 54
Life is a journey, if you spend all of it with your nose in your map, you may miss some of the best parts.

Still won't get it.

  • 11.20.2011 4:18 PM PDT
Subject: Frankie says Reach was bad and Halo 4 will be nothing like Reach.
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Posted by: Zdann
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*Cough* Halo 4 is using the Reach engine. *Cough*
Every Halo game has used the same engine.


not true, the halo 3 engine is not the same as the reach engine
Reach engine is a modified Halo 3 engine.

  • 11.20.2011 4:19 PM PDT

to all of you 343/Halo 4 haters, how can you say a game will fail when its still in development? especially a game of a great franchise and fanbase like Halo. because the last game of the franchise disappointed? if anything, that will guide Halo 4 to return to core halo gameplay. and stop hating on 343, when they haven't even had their chance at the franchise besides minor tweaks of Reach which isn't their first priority.

  • 11.20.2011 4:19 PM PDT
Subject: Halo 4 will be nothing like Reach. (Video Proof)

Please don't hype for games...
They'll just fall short of your expectations and you'll complain for months.


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Still won't get it.

  • 11.20.2011 4:27 PM PDT
Subject: Frankie says Reach was bad and Halo 4 will be nothing like Reach.

R.I.P. Halo 2 <33333333
Do not play halo much anymore. Barely ever come on here.

I would much rather have a remake of Halo 2 then Halo 4 anyday.

  • 11.20.2011 4:28 PM PDT
Subject: Halo 4 will be nothing like Reach. (Video Proof)

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If the old weapons are back in halo 4 such as BR, SMG etc. Then i will be one happy man.

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I don't feel the hype for Halo 4.




I thought Halo 3 was a good ending to the story.

  • 11.20.2011 4:42 PM PDT
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I just want a prettier Halo 3.

  • 11.20.2011 4:47 PM PDT

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My problems [with Reach] are basically just full parties, mlg, and people who go out of their way not to get killed.

I just want to point out that he didn't say anything about Reach being bad. Here is a summary of the section you guys are talking about:

-Reach has a lower population than previous Halo games. (He did not elaborate on this so it is meaningless to put words in his mouth)

-343 will be adding their own spin and trademark to Halo.

-Halo 4 will have some new things in it.

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-Halo 4 will have some new things in it.


Thank god.

  • 11.20.2011 4:53 PM PDT


Posted by: Viper Skills
I just want to point out that he didn't say anything about Reach being bad. Here is a summary of the section you guys are talking about:

-Reach has a lower population than previous Halo games. (He did not elaborate on this so it is meaningless to put words in his mouth)

-343 will be adding their own spin and trademark to Halo.

-Halo 4 will have some new things in it.


I was about to say this too. Where the Hell did he even say Reach is bad? Saying they want to change up Halo's gameplay to be new, yet drawn back to CE's style isn't saying Reach is bad.

It is confusing because he is stating that Halo needs new old gameplay, but he never said Reach is bad. What I DO believe he is saying is that Halo needs to be different to compete with the big name games (CoD) out there.

  • 11.20.2011 4:55 PM PDT

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My problems [with Reach] are basically just full parties, mlg, and people who go out of their way not to get killed.


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Posted by: Viper Skills
I just want to point out that he didn't say anything about Reach being bad. Here is a summary of the section you guys are talking about:

-Reach has a lower population than previous Halo games. (He did not elaborate on this so it is meaningless to put words in his mouth)

-343 will be adding their own spin and trademark to Halo.

-Halo 4 will have some new things in it.


I was about to say this too. Where the Hell did he even say Reach is bad? Saying they want to change up Halo's gameplay to be new, yet drawn back to CE's style isn't saying Reach is bad.

It is confusing because he is stating that Halo needs new old gameplay, but he never said Reach is bad. What I DO believe he is saying is that Halo needs to be different to compete with the big name games (CoD) out there.


Exactly. I am very happy that Frankie and 343 recognize what needs to be done with Halo. They know that it's in a make-or-break spot and that the fans have their opinions.

It's going to be a balancing act between new and old. Reach did something similar and it is safe to say that it was not well received among fans. For what reasons? Almost irrelevant, actually.

I'm looking forward to Halo 4. I mean, if they know what needs to be done all that's left is proper execution.

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He didn't say it was bad. The OP just hears what he wants.

  • 11.20.2011 5:05 PM PDT
Subject: Frankie says Reach was bad and Halo 4 will be nothing like Reach.

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If the gameplay is similar or close to Halo 3 I'm out for good.

  • 11.20.2011 5:12 PM PDT

Posted by: Recon Number 54
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Posted by: Pahat Pojat
If the gameplay is similar or close to Halo 3 I'm out for good.


So it needs to be closer to Halo 2, right? Or even better, Halo CE?

  • 11.20.2011 5:13 PM PDT


Posted by: Pahat Pojat
If the gameplay is similar or close to Halo 3 I'm out for good.


This. It should be closer to Halo 2 and CE. The farther away from Reach the better

  • 11.20.2011 5:18 PM PDT