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Subject: Frankie says Reach was bad and Halo 4 will be nothing like Reach.

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Posted by: Spurs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OPd2d3H5UI&feature=mfu_ch annel&list=UL

skip to 7:22

umad reachtards?


You are calling others reachtards while you yourself are a forerunner. That's quite funny.

  • 11.20.2011 11:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: Vidgameplayer007
Eh, I'm pretty sure Frankie said Reach was good.


Yeah, I'm not sure why people think Frank took a crap on Reach in the podcast. He said he was 'looking at the numbers' for multiplayer and thought it 'needed something fresh'.

That is not, "Wow, Reach is a failure in all things Halo..." I think it's pretty clear that Frank wants to keep Halo competitive for a new decade... (especially since Call of Duty doesn't show any sign of slowing down in terms of popularity).

  • 11.20.2011 11:21 PM PDT

I miss Halo. Maybe Halo 4 will change that.

Edit: Lol nope


Posted by: HC Swat Iz Back
*Cough* Halo 4 is using the Reach engine. *Cough*


*Cough* The engine wasn't the problem, it was how they used it. *Cough*



  • 11.21.2011 12:15 AM PDT


Posted by: rraaaaawwwwwwwr

Posted by: HC Swat Iz Back
*Cough* Halo 4 is using the Reach engine. *Cough*


*Cough* The engine wasn't the problem, it was how they used it. *Cough*





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  • 11.21.2011 12:21 AM PDT

I miss Halo. Maybe Halo 4 will change that.

Edit: Lol nope


Posted by: NinjaLord77

Posted by: rraaaaawwwwwwwr

Posted by: HC Swat Iz Back
*Cough* Halo 4 is using the Reach engine. *Cough*


*Cough* The engine wasn't the problem, it was how they used it. *Cough*





Are you a dinosaur


Yes.

  • 11.21.2011 12:22 AM PDT


Posted by: rraaaaawwwwwwwr

Posted by: NinjaLord77

Posted by: rraaaaawwwwwwwr

Posted by: HC Swat Iz Back
*Cough* Halo 4 is using the Reach engine. *Cough*


*Cough* The engine wasn't the problem, it was how they used it. *Cough*


Are you a dinosaur


Yes.


You rawr very loudly, you need to be quiet

[Edited on 11.21.2011 12:32 AM PST]

  • 11.21.2011 12:24 AM PDT
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Posted by: Vidgameplayer007
Eh, I'm pretty sure Frankie said Reach was good.


Yeah, I'm not sure why people think Frank took a crap on Reach in the podcast. He said he was 'looking at the numbers' for multiplayer and thought it 'needed something fresh'.

That is not, "Wow, Reach is a failure in all things Halo..." I think it's pretty clear that Frank wants to keep Halo competitive for a new decade... (especially since Call of Duty doesn't show any sign of slowing down in terms of popularity).

^This^

  • 11.21.2011 1:21 AM PDT

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Eh, I'm sure they'll find new and exciting ways to make Halo 4 suck. Every Halo since Halo 3 has been a colossal disappointment to me.

  • 11.21.2011 2:08 AM PDT

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Posted by: NinjaLord77

Posted by: WulfwoodsSins

So you're perfectly fine with 343i putting a BR in the game, reguardless of how it got there in the first place, 'just because?'. Granted, I already have little faith that 343i is going to take the game back to it's roots, but good game play doesn't revolve around a single gun being brought back. It's combination of many things.


They can put both in for all I care but I love the BR so I would like to see at least an equivalent of it. Everyone loves the BR, its like Halo's greatest weapon.


Disagreed. First of all you argue that gameplay is priority but then niggle about the aesthetics of the weapon.

Secondly, the BR is not universally loved. Personally I think of the 3 utility weapon (Pistol, BR, DMR) it is indisputably the worst due to its spread and burst mechanics. It lacks consistency.

Sure, a bloomed DMR also lacks consistency, but without bloom or when properly paced it is consistent in where the bullets go, if not consistent with regards to the outcome of a battle.

I'd much rather have a weapon that is simply hit or miss than one which uses burst fire to allow for inconsistent partial hits. That said, if the BR came back as a single shot rifle I'd have no issue with it, and canonically it can do that.

  • 11.21.2011 3:55 AM PDT

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Posted by: And Im Here Too
Posted by: st3althsniper22
That's like saying you don't want Link in a Legend of Zelda game, because he's been the main character in all of them.
Posted by: And Im Here Too
He's an old character anyway - not in terms of his age in-story, but seriously, three games already.


I don't play Zelda for a reason, y'know.


Because you have terrible taste in games?

Anyway, WulfwoodSins is proving himself to be a massive idiot in this thread. Just about everything he's said thus far has been wrong.


Really? Oh man, that means the TU changes are Reach wide now, joy! Firefight Limited never left us! Frankie never said Reach was alright! It makes perfect sense to find a human gun on a planet humans have ever been too. And there is not a single solitary trace of Reach in the CEA playlists, thus giving the much sought after Halo experience.

Nah, it's all true, you're just too busy daydreaming about running your tounge over Frankie bald head to realize this.

I mean it's not like 343 would troll.

[Edited on 11.21.2011 4:11 AM PST]

  • 11.21.2011 4:08 AM PDT


Posted by: WulfwoodsSins

Posted by: Ryus Shoryuken

Posted by: And Im Here Too
Posted by: st3althsniper22
That's like saying you don't want Link in a Legend of Zelda game, because he's been the main character in all of them.
Posted by: And Im Here Too
He's an old character anyway - not in terms of his age in-story, but seriously, three games already.


I don't play Zelda for a reason, y'know.


Because you have terrible taste in games?

Anyway, WulfwoodSins is proving himself to be a massive idiot in this thread. Just about everything he's said thus far has been wrong.


Really? Oh man, that means the TU changes are Reach wide now, joy! Firefight Limited never left us! Frankie never said Reach was alright! It makes perfect sense to find a human gun on a planet humans have ever been too. And there is not a single solitary trace of Reach in the CEA playlists, thus giving the much sought after Halo experience.

Nah, it's all true, you're just too busy daydreaming about running your tounge over Frankie bald head to realize this.

I mean it's not like 343 would troll.


Every single thing you are complaining about were idiotic assumptions on your part. The whole "no human guns" thing is especially moronic, because gameplay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>& gt;>>>>>> story in terms of designing a multiplayer sandbox. They're NOT going to ditch all (and I mean ALL) of Halo's iconic weaponry just because the story says so.

  • 11.21.2011 4:23 AM PDT

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Posted by: Spurs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OPd2d3H5UI&feature=mfu_ch annel&list=UL

skip to 7:22

umad reachtards?

English isn't your native language, is it?

  • 11.21.2011 4:40 AM PDT
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Posted by: Ryus Shoryuken

Posted by: And Im Here Too
Posted by: st3althsniper22
That's like saying you don't want Link in a Legend of Zelda game, because he's been the main character in all of them.
Posted by: And Im Here Too
He's an old character anyway - not in terms of his age in-story, but seriously, three games already.


I don't play Zelda for a reason, y'know.


Because you have terrible taste in games?


Nope, because I find games like Dead Space 2 and Super Smash Bros. Melee much more enjoyable (and I'm certainly not calling that a Zelda game).

  • 11.21.2011 4:40 AM PDT


Posted by: And Im Here Too
Posted by: Ryus Shoryuken

Posted by: And Im Here Too
Posted by: st3althsniper22
That's like saying you don't want Link in a Legend of Zelda game, because he's been the main character in all of them.
Posted by: And Im Here Too
He's an old character anyway - not in terms of his age in-story, but seriously, three games already.


I don't play Zelda for a reason, y'know.


Because you have terrible taste in games?


Nope, because I find games like Dead Space 2 and Super Smash Bros. Melee much more enjoyable (and I'm certainly not calling that a Zelda game).


I don't see how those are mutually exclusive though. You won't find a bigger Melee enthusiast (I was maining Jigglypuff BEFORE it was a top tier character) but I still love Zelda.

  • 11.21.2011 4:48 AM PDT

whats up


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Posted by: HC Swat Iz Back
*Cough* Halo 4 is using the Reach engine. *Cough*
Every Halo game has used the same engine.


not true, the halo 3 engine is not the same as the reach engine


Yes it actually is, the halo reach engine is a gutted version of the halo 3 engine and halo 4s will be a gutted version of reaches. I more efficient to retool a already made engine then to create one from scratch. It also allows 343 to spend more time working on the game and adding more features then having to build a engine from the ground up.

  • 11.21.2011 6:56 AM PDT
Subject: Halo 4 will be nothing like Reach. (Video Proof)

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Posted by: Viper Skills
I just want to point out that he didn't say anything about Reach being bad. Here is a summary of the section you guys are talking about:

-Reach has a lower population than previous Halo games. (He did not elaborate on this so it is meaningless to put words in his mouth)

-343 will be adding their own spin and trademark to Halo.

-Halo 4 will have some new things in it.


I was about to say this too. Where the Hell did he even say Reach is bad? Saying they want to change up Halo's gameplay to be new, yet drawn back to CE's style isn't saying Reach is bad.

It is confusing because he is stating that Halo needs new old gameplay, but he never said Reach is bad. What I DO believe he is saying is that Halo needs to be different to compete with the big name games (CoD) out there.


If thats what 343 is saying then thank god because despite all of the nostalgia fans halo 4 will improve on the halo formula instead of reusing it over and over as so many keep wanting to happen. I now feel confident that 343 will keep halo alive and not fall for the part of the community that is afraid of change.

  • 11.21.2011 7:03 AM PDT

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Lmao, Frankie basically said that Reach sucks and Bungie choked on it.

Awesome.

I'm liking 343 more and more every day.
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  • 11.21.2011 7:06 AM PDT

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Posted by: Old Papa Rich
He didn't say it was bad. The OP just hears what he wants.


This.

  • 11.21.2011 7:13 AM PDT
Subject: Frankie says Reach was bad and Halo 4 will be nothing like Reach.


Posted by: MATCLAN



They can put both in for all I care but I love the BR so I would like to see at least an equivalent of it. Everyone loves the BR, its like Halo's greatest weapon.[/quote]

Disagreed. First of all you argue that gameplay is priority but then niggle about the aesthetics of the weapon.

Secondly, the BR is not universally loved. Personally I think of the 3 utility weapon (Pistol, BR, DMR) it is indisputably the worst due to its spread and burst mechanics. It lacks consistency.

Sure, a bloomed DMR also lacks consistency, but without bloom or when properly paced it is consistent in where the bullets go, if not consistent with regards to the outcome of a battle.

I'd much rather have a weapon that is simply hit or miss than one which uses burst fire to allow for inconsistent partial hits. That said, if the BR came back as a single shot rifle I'd have no issue with it, and canonically it can do that.


Not everyone may like the BR but I guarantee more people like it than the DMR and the Pistol and if 343 wants their Halo 4 population to be high they would make the smart choice and put in the game.

  • 11.21.2011 7:23 AM PDT
Subject: Halo 4 will be nothing like Reach. (Video Proof)
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Awesome, this gives me reason to buy the game.

Who am I kidding, I would have bought it anyway...


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  • 11.21.2011 7:32 AM PDT
Subject: Frankie says Reach was bad and Halo 4 will be nothing like Reach.
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Posted by: NinjaLord77

Posted by: MATCLAN



They can put both in for all I care but I love the BR so I would like to see at least an equivalent of it. Everyone loves the BR, its like Halo's greatest weapon.[/quote]

Disagreed. First of all you argue that gameplay is priority but then niggle about the aesthetics of the weapon.

Secondly, the BR is not universally loved. Personally I think of the 3 utility weapon (Pistol, BR, DMR) it is indisputably the worst due to its spread and burst mechanics. It lacks consistency.

Sure, a bloomed DMR also lacks consistency, but without bloom or when properly paced it is consistent in where the bullets go, if not consistent with regards to the outcome of a battle.

I'd much rather have a weapon that is simply hit or miss than one which uses burst fire to allow for inconsistent partial hits. That said, if the BR came back as a single shot rifle I'd have no issue with it, and canonically it can do that.


Not everyone may like the BR but I guarantee more people like it than the DMR and the Pistol and if 343 wants their Halo 4 population to be high they would make the smart choice and put in the game.


I'll bet you money 100% people want the Halo 2 BR with hitscan, not the POS H3 BR with its random spread that ruined BTB matches.

  • 11.21.2011 7:33 AM PDT
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Posted by: WulfwoodsSins
I'm a fat kid.


i'm sorry to hear that.

  • 11.21.2011 7:35 AM PDT


Posted by: smc90

Posted by: NinjaLord77



Not everyone may like the BR but I guarantee more people like it than the DMR and the Pistol and if 343 wants their Halo 4 population to be high they would make the smart choice and put in the game.


I'll bet you money 100% people want the Halo 2 BR with hitscan, not the POS H3 BR with its random spread that ruined BTB matches.


Halo 2 BR is fine as long as there is some of rifle in the game I'm happy and I don't mean the DMR with bloom. I'd rather have a burst fire weapon

  • 11.21.2011 7:39 AM PDT