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Subject: Do you like Halo:Reach or Halo 3 more?


Posted by: Kira Onime

Posted by: Dwavenhobble
you have your arena and MLG, making every playlist change to whatever the newly seen pro balance is isn't the way to do it either as a lot of the pro balances come not from any balance issue but people claiming there's an issue because they can't get easier kills or use the item.


2 "competitive" playlist versus how many casual ones?
Was it 10 ?

Considering there normally only 2 actual competitive players to 10 for fun players, I don't see your issue.


Posted by: SouthPoIe


This.
Arena isn't even competitive, and MLG doesn't have a ranking system.

I don't even know if the rest of his post was in English.

So Arena having its own rankings, set restricted weapons and arenas designed to be near perfectly symmetrical isn't an attempt at the so desired MLG perfect balance. MLG goes with the over all rankings system.


Strange you fail to realise how MLG aren't some infallible machine and actually work a lot on player bias and ideas of balance rather than what can be seen to balance a game, claiming they are eliminating chance when reaction to chance is as much a skill as any other thing.

  • 11.22.2011 1:09 PM PDT


Posted by: Kira Onime

Posted by: Dwavenhobble
again 5 death threats


How sad.

All from pro competitive players.
so tell me again how Halo 3 was better and had less 1337ism ?

  • 11.22.2011 1:10 PM PDT

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Life is a journey, if you spend all of it with your nose in your map, you may miss some of the best parts.


Posted by: Dwavenhobble
Considering there normally only 2 actual competitive players to 10 for fun players, I don't see your issue.

So Arena having its own rankings, set restricted weapons and arenas designed to be near perfectly symmetrical isn't an attempt at the so desired MLG perfect balance. MLG goes with the over all rankings system.

Strange you fail to realise how MLG aren't some infallible machine and actually work a lot on player bias and ideas of balance rather than what can be seen to balance a game, claiming they are eliminating chance when reaction to chance is as much a skill as any other thing.



For fun can = competitive.

And the rest I really couldn't understand.

  • 11.22.2011 1:12 PM PDT
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Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.

I'll lay it out really clear for you.

Arena, isn't competitive. It has bloom, jetpacks, the works.
MLG, doesn't have a ranking system.

MLG is currently the most competitive playlist in Reach.
The rest of your post is butthurt nonsense.

  • 11.22.2011 1:18 PM PDT
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Posted by: KIBOSH
They should just make an HLG playlist then you guys can hide against each other and see how much fun it is.


Posted by: SouthPoIe
Don't even have to think about it.
Halo 3

  • 11.22.2011 1:19 PM PDT


Posted by: SouthPoIe
I'll lay it out really clear for you.

Arena, isn't competitive. It has bloom, jetpacks, the works.
MLG, doesn't have a ranking system.

MLG is currently the most competitive playlist in Reach.
The rest of your post is butthurt nonsense.

so you want a playlist on Halo reach that removes everything that makes reach different and non generic...... sounds just like MLG rhetoric there. Maybe if MLG wanted the game to be to their exact specifications they should make their own game or work towards making the game rather than moaning constantly despite getting their own playlist (which is more than most other devs will even give them)

  • 11.22.2011 1:27 PM PDT

reach!!!

  • 11.22.2011 1:33 PM PDT


Posted by: Dwavenhobble

Just...stop talking. You have no idea what you're saying.

  • 11.22.2011 1:36 PM PDT
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You know, anybody on here that knows me would probably know that I'd usually pick Halo 3. And for the most part, Halo 3 is better. Still, I'm optimistic about what's left of Reach's future. I think the new MLG playlist is going to be a ton of fun. I'll have to see what I think about it then.

Hell, I'm even having a lot of fun with Anniversary Classic right now.

  • 11.22.2011 1:38 PM PDT
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Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.


Posted by: Dwavenhobble

so you want a playlist on Halo reach that removes everything that makes reach different


Yes, but that's because everything that makes Reach different is retarded.

Jetpacks and bloom have no place in a competitive environment.
That -blam!- should stay in the retard gametypes where it belongs.

  • 11.22.2011 1:39 PM PDT


Posted by: Blood Gulch 7

Posted by: Dwavenhobble

Just...stop talking. You have no idea what you're saying.

care to argue a point rather than just, "yeh you're wrong shut up I know better than you"

  • 11.22.2011 1:39 PM PDT
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Posted by: KIBOSH
They should just make an HLG playlist then you guys can hide against each other and see how much fun it is.


Posted by: Dwavenhobble
Wow.. you have no idea what you're talking about. Just stop talking, you're embarassing yourself.

  • 11.22.2011 1:40 PM PDT

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Posted by: Dwavenhobble

You are now on equal footing with Beirut.

  • 11.22.2011 1:40 PM PDT


Posted by: SouthPoIe

Posted by: Dwavenhobble

so you want a playlist on Halo reach that removes everything that makes reach different


Yes, but that's because everything that makes Reach different is retarded.

Jetpacks and bloom have no place in a competitive environment.
That -blam!- should stay in the retard gametypes where it belongs.

MLG has their playlist, it should stop dictating what should be in all other playlists.

The best example being MLG on Red Faction 3 removing all destruction weapons because apparently destruction physics was too unpredictable and not a show of skill when someone dropped a building on you.

That's the issue with MLG not realising every game is different and shouldn't all play the same like some generic mess.


Posted by: Anto91

Posted by: Dwavenhobble
Wow.. you have no idea what you're talking about. Just stop talking, you're embarassing yourself.

See previous comment about acting like this. Either argue the point or go away and ask someone to remove the large plasma sword stuck up your rear that makes you think you're right just because you're you and your ego can't handle you being wrong.

  • 11.22.2011 1:45 PM PDT

reach > every other halo ... i'm a reachtard?

to discussion about MLG and competitive:

allthough i agree that MLG do tend to dumb down games and call it competitive but that is only one way to look at it and kind of ignorant when you think about it, what MLG are doing or atleast try to do is remove all the unnecessary gimmicks that are there for the more casual players and hurt gameplay, removing the gimmicks improves the gameplay significantly and makes it more "competitive".

though, competitive is merely subjective if you ask me.

  • 11.22.2011 1:48 PM PDT


Posted by: Kira Onime

Posted by: Dwavenhobble

You are now on equal footing with Beirut.

Well considering you're still here acting the same as ever I take your opinion of me as seriously as this ant
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  • 11.22.2011 1:49 PM PDT
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Posted by: con_extreme
reach > every other halo ... i'm a reachtard?

to discussion about MLG and competitive:

allthough i agree that MLG do tend to dumb down games and call it competitive but that is only one way to look at it and kind of ignorant when you think about it, what MLG are doing or atleast try to do is remove all the unnecessary gimmicks that are there for the more casual players and hurt gameplay, removing the gimmicks improves the gameplay significantly and makes it more "competitive".

though, competitive is merely subjective if you ask me.

Well at least you're not a total retard about it like Dwavenhobble.

  • 11.22.2011 1:50 PM PDT
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Posted by: KIBOSH
They should just make an HLG playlist then you guys can hide against each other and see how much fun it is.


Posted by: Dwavenhobble
Posted by: Anto91

Posted by: Dwavenhobble
Wow.. you have no idea what you're talking about. Just stop talking, you're embarassing yourself.

See previous comment about acting like this. Either argue the point or go away and ask someone to remove the large plasma sword stuck up your rear that makes you think you're right just because you're you and your ego can't handle you being wrong.

I've argued on these forums for a year and only a few have understood. I can't be asked to reason with retards anymore.

  • 11.22.2011 1:50 PM PDT

Name's John. I'm a 21-year-old firefighter/EMT from lolhio who doubles as a die-hard Halo fan. I've been enjoying the franchise since 2001. My favorite iteration of Halo would have to be Halo 2 simply because I never got to experience the joy of a full-on Halo: CE LAN.


If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

Oh yeah, and boot Zome.


Posted by: Dwavenhobble

Posted by: SouthPoIe
I'll lay it out really clear for you.

Arena, isn't competitive. It has bloom, jetpacks, the works.
MLG, doesn't have a ranking system.

MLG is currently the most competitive playlist in Reach.
The rest of your post is butthurt nonsense.

so you want a playlist on Halo reach that removes everything that makes reach different and non generic...... sounds just like MLG rhetoric there. Maybe if MLG wanted the game to be to their exact specifications they should make their own game or work towards making the game rather than moaning constantly despite getting their own playlist (which is more than most other devs will even give them)


Are you trying to be this retarded, or does it just come naturally?

  • 11.22.2011 1:51 PM PDT
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Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.


Posted by: Anto91

I've argued on these forums for a year and only a few have understood. I can't be asked to reason with retards anymore.

  • 11.22.2011 1:51 PM PDT


Posted by: Anto91

Posted by: Dwavenhobble
Posted by: Anto91

Posted by: Dwavenhobble
Wow.. you have no idea what you're talking about. Just stop talking, you're embarassing yourself.

See previous comment about acting like this. Either argue the point or go away and ask someone to remove the large plasma sword stuck up your rear that makes you think you're right just because you're you and your ego can't handle you being wrong.

I've argued on these forums for a year and only a few have understood. I can't be asked to reason with retards anymore.

I can't be asked to accept I'm wrong by someone claiming superiority on intellectual grounds then refusing the explain his point only say I'm right because "I iz smater den u".
kindly ask someone to remove the grav hammer from rear before you post again

  • 11.22.2011 1:52 PM PDT


Posted by: Loltastrophe
Posted by: con_extreme
reach > every other halo ... i'm a reachtard?

to discussion about MLG and competitive:

allthough i agree that MLG do tend to dumb down games and call it competitive but that is only one way to look at it and kind of ignorant when you think about it, what MLG are doing or atleast try to do is remove all the unnecessary gimmicks that are there for the more casual players and hurt gameplay, removing the gimmicks improves the gameplay significantly and makes it more "competitive".

though, competitive is merely subjective if you ask me.

Well at least you're not a total retard about it like Dwavenhobble.

you have either forgotten some of my previous posts or not seen them ....

i may have done some of the most retarded posts around these parts..

  • 11.22.2011 1:54 PM PDT


Posted by: The Ruckus 2010

Posted by: Dwavenhobble

Posted by: SouthPoIe
I'll lay it out really clear for you.

Arena, isn't competitive. It has bloom, jetpacks, the works.
MLG, doesn't have a ranking system.

MLG is currently the most competitive playlist in Reach.
The rest of your post is butthurt nonsense.

so you want a playlist on Halo reach that removes everything that makes reach different and non generic...... sounds just like MLG rhetoric there. Maybe if MLG wanted the game to be to their exact specifications they should make their own game or work towards making the game rather than moaning constantly despite getting their own playlist (which is more than most other devs will even give them)


Are you trying to be this retarded, or does it just come naturally?

hhhhhmmmmm am I being retarded by pointing out MLG make games very generic and often remove the feature that make those games different from others.
I dunno is basically disabling geo mod on Red faction removing a core point ?
Is removing weapons than can be used to set traps but leave in a sniper that can shoot through 90% of the levels making a game where traps work well more generic and more like every other game ?

  • 11.22.2011 1:55 PM PDT


Posted by: con_extreme
reach > every other halo ... i'm a reachtard?

to discussion about MLG and competitive:

allthough i agree that MLG do tend to dumb down games and call it competitive but that is only one way to look at it and kind of ignorant when you think about it, what MLG are doing or atleast try to do is remove all the unnecessary gimmicks that are there for the more casual players and hurt gameplay, removing the gimmicks improves the gameplay significantly and makes it more "competitive".

though, competitive is merely subjective if you ask me.

its like taking the different rules out of Rugby league and rugby union and making them the same game though, the gimmicks and differences are what make the game and removing them is a detriment to the game.

  • 11.22.2011 1:57 PM PDT


Posted by: Dwavenhobble

Posted by: con_extreme
reach > every other halo ... i'm a reachtard?

to discussion about MLG and competitive:

allthough i agree that MLG do tend to dumb down games and call it competitive but that is only one way to look at it and kind of ignorant when you think about it, what MLG are doing or atleast try to do is remove all the unnecessary gimmicks that are there for the more casual players and hurt gameplay, removing the gimmicks improves the gameplay significantly and makes it more "competitive".

though, competitive is merely subjective if you ask me.

its like taking the different rules out of Rugby league and rugby union and making them the same game though, the gimmicks and differences are what make the game and removing them is a detriment to the game.

*Sigh*
hey look, its fellow brit, we do tend to be -blam!-s don't we?

as for the analogy, it's kind of flawed, the rules that would be taken out of rugby would be the rule that hurt the outcome and can be abused an manipulated, removing these kind of rules improves the game and puts both teams on an even playing field leaving the deciding factor down to which team was better coordinated, this is the same thing that MLG ATTEMPT to do, i never said they succeed at it.

  • 11.22.2011 2:01 PM PDT