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Subject: Do you like Halo:Reach or Halo 3 more?

Name's John. I'm a 21-year-old firefighter/EMT from lolhio who doubles as a die-hard Halo fan. I've been enjoying the franchise since 2001. My favorite iteration of Halo would have to be Halo 2 simply because I never got to experience the joy of a full-on Halo: CE LAN.


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Posted by: Dwavenhobble

Posted by: The Ruckus 2010

Posted by: Dwavenhobble

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I'll lay it out really clear for you.

Arena, isn't competitive. It has bloom, jetpacks, the works.
MLG, doesn't have a ranking system.

MLG is currently the most competitive playlist in Reach.
The rest of your post is butthurt nonsense. [/quote]
so you want a playlist on Halo reach that removes everything that makes reach different and non generic...... sounds just like MLG rhetoric there. Maybe if MLG wanted the game to be to their exact specifications they should make their own game or work towards making the game rather than moaning constantly despite getting their own playlist (which is more than most other devs will even give them)


Are you trying to be this retarded, or does it just come naturally?

hhhhhmmmmm am I being retarded by pointing out MLG make games very generic and often remove the feature that make those games different from others.


Um yeah, you are. The games are still very discernibly different from one another for anyone with even half of a brain stem. They use the most competitive setting possible in a given game. If you can't tell the difference between the base gameplay of two separate games in MLG, there are no words for you.


I dunno is basically disabling geo mod on Red faction removing a core point ?
Is removing weapons than can be used to set traps but leave in a sniper that can shoot through 90% of the levels making a game where traps work well more generic and more like every other game ?


I think you need to learn the definition of generic.

Please, stop throwing around words you don't understand.

[Edited on 11.22.2011 2:03 PM PST]

  • 11.22.2011 2:02 PM PDT


Posted by: The Ruckus 2010
Um yeah, you are. The games are still very discernibly different from one another for anyone with even half of a brain stem. They use the most competitive setting possible in a given game. If you can't tell the difference between the base gameplay of two separate games in MLG, there are no words for you.

actually, the core gameplay in every halo has been the same, just with reach you have AA's that add to the gameplay masking it, with MLG the AA's are on map and you are very restricted with them which brings back a sprinkle of core halo gameplay which people have always enjoyed.

  • 11.22.2011 2:08 PM PDT
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Posted by: KIBOSH
They should just make an HLG playlist then you guys can hide against each other and see how much fun it is.


Posted by: Dwavenhobble
hhhhhmmmmm am I being retarded by pointing out MLG make games very generic and often remove the feature that make those games different from others.

...and you ask why we think you're retarded.

By your logic, Halo, CoD, Gears of War and Rainbow Six: Vegas are not different from each other. And they are all "very generic". Hah.

  • 11.22.2011 2:11 PM PDT


Posted by: con_extreme

*Sigh*
hey look, its fellow brit, we do tend to be -blam!-s don't we?

as for the analogy, it's kind of flawed, the rules that would be taken out of rugby would be the rule that hurt the outcome and can be abused an manipulated, removing these kind of rules improves the game and puts both teams on an even playing field

The thing being both sides start with pretty much the same kit now, removing the kit forces everyone to play the same, it doesn't show that someone is better with a certain play style, surely the winner would be the team with the best skills suited to their tactics or play style, as in say football you don't generally have the goal keeper training as a striker people are specialised to certain things and the team that combines those elements best would be the winner.

Why for example in MLG on Halo 3 was the AR removed for being unbalanced, yet the sniper which has twice the killing potential left in ?

  • 11.22.2011 2:12 PM PDT

Name's John. I'm a 21-year-old firefighter/EMT from lolhio who doubles as a die-hard Halo fan. I've been enjoying the franchise since 2001. My favorite iteration of Halo would have to be Halo 2 simply because I never got to experience the joy of a full-on Halo: CE LAN.


If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

Oh yeah, and boot Zome.


Posted by: con_extreme

Posted by: The Ruckus 2010
Um yeah, you are. The games are still very discernibly different from one another for anyone with even half of a brain stem. They use the most competitive setting possible in a given game. If you can't tell the difference between the base gameplay of two separate games in MLG, there are no words for you.

actually, the core gameplay in every halo has been the same, just with reach you have AA's that add to the gameplay masking it, with MLG the AA's are on map and you are very restricted with them which brings back a sprinkle of core halo gameplay which people have always enjoyed.


I'm talking about the difference between games like Halo, Cawadoody, and Red Faction. Of course the core gameplay of Halo is going to be similar from sequel to sequel.

  • 11.22.2011 2:12 PM PDT

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Posted by: Dwavenhobble
Why for example in MLG on Halo 3 was the AR removed for being unbalanced, yet the sniper which has twice the killing potential left in ?


No words can describe this...... retardness......and that's not even a word.

  • 11.22.2011 2:13 PM PDT


Posted by: Anto91

Posted by: Dwavenhobble
hhhhhmmmmm am I being retarded by pointing out MLG make games very generic and often remove the feature that make those games different from others.

...and you ask why we think you're retarded.

By your logic, Halo, CoD, Gears of War and Rainbow Six: Vegas are not different from each other. And they are all "very generic". Hah.

Remove the different features and it comes down to shooting the oter person faster rather than using the stuff the game gives you and using it well.
Also as MLG has only really had two fully dev supported sanction playlists in gaming so far having played those as the MLG wanted your be shocked how much Red faction 3 played like Halo 3, the only differences, the perspective and the lack of grenades in RF3, you could just have copied the games over, it was only stuff like geomod and the equipments and vehicles that made the games different.

  • 11.22.2011 2:16 PM PDT

Name's John. I'm a 21-year-old firefighter/EMT from lolhio who doubles as a die-hard Halo fan. I've been enjoying the franchise since 2001. My favorite iteration of Halo would have to be Halo 2 simply because I never got to experience the joy of a full-on Halo: CE LAN.


If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

Oh yeah, and boot Zome.


Posted by: Kira Onime

Posted by: Dwavenhobble
Why for example in MLG on Halo 3 was the AR removed for being unbalanced, yet the sniper which has twice the killing potential left in ?


No words can describe this...... retardness......and that's not even a word.


No, but retardation is.

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Posted by: KIBOSH
They should just make an HLG playlist then you guys can hide against each other and see how much fun it is.


Posted by: Dwavenhobble
Why for example in MLG on Halo 3 was the AR removed for being unbalanced, yet the sniper which has twice the killing potential left in ?

Baffled.

  • 11.22.2011 2:18 PM PDT

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  • 11.22.2011 2:18 PM PDT


Posted by: Kira Onime

Posted by: Dwavenhobble
Why for example in MLG on Halo 3 was the AR removed for being unbalanced, yet the sniper which has twice the killing potential left in ?


No words can describe this...... retardness......and that's not even a word.

Sorry a weapon that requires you to fire in bursts self controlled to get any mid to long range accuracy would take less skill to use well then a weapon with pin point accuracy plus head shot bonus damage through shields ?

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Posted by: Blood Gulch 7
Reach is definitely a better game than Halo 3, but that's not to say either of the games are good.


This is the closest answer I can make up with.

  • 11.22.2011 2:19 PM PDT

Name's John. I'm a 21-year-old firefighter/EMT from lolhio who doubles as a die-hard Halo fan. I've been enjoying the franchise since 2001. My favorite iteration of Halo would have to be Halo 2 simply because I never got to experience the joy of a full-on Halo: CE LAN.


If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

Oh yeah, and boot Zome.


Posted by: Dwavenhobble

Posted by: Anto91

Posted by: Dwavenhobble
hhhhhmmmmm am I being retarded by pointing out MLG make games very generic and often remove the feature that make those games different from others.

...and you ask why we think you're retarded.

By your logic, Halo, CoD, Gears of War and Rainbow Six: Vegas are not different from each other. And they are all "very generic". Hah.

Remove the different features and it comes down to shooting the oter person faster rather than using the stuff the game gives you and using it well.


Just like fighting games are all the same combos in essence. Just like racing games are all the same "go faster than the other guy" gameplay. Just like sports games are all the same game in a pretty new skin for their respective sports. Just like platformers are the same "jump over this" or "beat the hell out of that then jump over this". Just like RPG's are the same. Just like MMO's are the same. Am I missing anything here?

Your point is unknown and your argument is invalid. You're still a colossal retard.

  • 11.22.2011 2:20 PM PDT

-Reach is not Halo. A good game, yes, but not Halo. -Zomechin

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Dwavenhobble

You are obviously a retard, why you guys even care to bother with him, is beyond me.

[Edited on 11.22.2011 2:22 PM PST]

  • 11.22.2011 2:21 PM PDT



Posted by: Dwavenhobble

Posted by: con_extreme

*Sigh*
hey look, its fellow brit, we do tend to be -blam!-s don't we?

as for the analogy, it's kind of flawed, the rules that would be taken out of rugby would be the rule that hurt the outcome and can be abused an manipulated, removing these kind of rules improves the game and puts both teams on an even playing field

The thing being both sides start with pretty much the same kit now, removing the kit forces everyone to play the same, it doesn't show that someone is better with a certain play style, surely the winner would be the team with the best skills suited to their tactics or play style, as in say football you don't generally have the goal keeper training as a striker people are specialised to certain things and the team that combines those elements best would be the winner.

Why for example in MLG on Halo 3 was the AR removed for being unbalanced, yet the sniper which has twice the killing potential left in ?


the flaw here is that in reach, you can choose to spawn with different "kit".

edit:
quoted the wrong post..

[Edited on 11.22.2011 2:23 PM PST]

  • 11.22.2011 2:21 PM PDT


Posted by: The Ruckus 2010



Um yeah, you are. The games are still very discernibly different from one another for anyone with even half of a brain stem. They use the most competitive setting possible in a given game. If you can't tell the difference between the base gameplay of two separate games in MLG, there are no words for you.


So you've played and compared two games where MLG got dev support to change the game to exactly how they wanted to be purely balanced or are you basing this of MLG making the best of it without the devs giving full support ?


Posted by: The Ruckus 2010

I dunno is basically disabling geo mod on Red faction removing a core point ?
Is removing weapons than can be used to set traps but leave in a sniper that can shoot through 90% of the levels making a game where traps work well more generic and more like every other game ?


I think you need to learn the definition of generic.

Please, stop throwing around words you don't understand.

so removing key features from games to generate almost the same game and gameplay with only minor weapon differences isn't making games into generic closes which dictionary are you using , the dictionary of egotistica MLGeous

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  • 11.22.2011 2:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: KIBOSH
They should just make an HLG playlist then you guys can hide against each other and see how much fun it is.


Posted by: FLASHDENMARK
Dwavenhobble

You are obviously a retard, why you guys even care to bother with him, is beyond me.

I'm laughing my arse off, that's why. It's hilarious to read his replies.

  • 11.22.2011 2:23 PM PDT
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Posted by: Viper Skills
I prefer Reach basically just because it has better netcode. In online gaming that is crucial.
I can't believe it, but I agree with this.

Halo 3 had horrible netcode. Reach improved drastically on that.

However, the new Anniversary gametype is starting to reveal some weird things. When people can get an instant 3-shot kill across the map with the magnum without any struggle (as in missing shots), that's not normal. I can also tell when my connection is helping me get easy kills. Whatever though. Lag is everywhere, and nothing can fix that.

Reach's netcode is still better than Halo 3's. But that's it, and it was obviously expected to see some improvement in that area.

  • 11.22.2011 2:24 PM PDT

Name's John. I'm a 21-year-old firefighter/EMT from lolhio who doubles as a die-hard Halo fan. I've been enjoying the franchise since 2001. My favorite iteration of Halo would have to be Halo 2 simply because I never got to experience the joy of a full-on Halo: CE LAN.


If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

Oh yeah, and boot Zome.


Posted by: Dwavenhobble

the dictionary of egotistica MLGeous


lol you think I'm MLG? Getting presumptuous, are we? No, I'm not MLG. I'm not good enough for that. I'm just not retarded enough to think that MLG settings make a game generic.

Nor am I retarded enough to begrudge MLG pros for making six-figure salaries for being better than me, unlike you. You clearly have some irrational vendetta against MLG. You must just be jealous, since the whole "generic" argument doesn't really work here.

Also, I've played COD with MLG settings, and I've played Halo with MLG settings. The differences are not only palpable, they're immense. Again, you're a complete retard.

[Edited on 11.22.2011 2:28 PM PST]

  • 11.22.2011 2:26 PM PDT


Posted by: The Ruckus 2010


Just like fighting games are all the same combos in essence. Just like racing games are all the same "go faster than the other guy" gameplay. Just like sports games are all the same game in a pretty new skin for their respective sports. Just like platformers are the same "jump over this" or "beat the hell out of that then jump over this". Just like RPG's are the same. Just like MMO's are the same. Am I missing anything here?

Your point is unknown and your argument is invalid. You're still a colossal retard.

The point that seems to have sailed over your head by your own admission, is making all games play the exact same is not a good thing, hell in the world the amount of variations all recognised on many sports is shocking. MLG is claiming to be making everything competitive, but rather than sports diverging and embracing the differences and not trying to make all the same. MLG are doing the opposite.
MLG Red Faction should have been different to MLG Halo 3 in more than just oh this gun fires a bit more accurately than this one etc.

  • 11.22.2011 2:26 PM PDT


Posted by: The Ruckus 2010

Posted by: con_extreme

Posted by: The Ruckus 2010
Um yeah, you are. The games are still very discernibly different from one another for anyone with even half of a brain stem. They use the most competitive setting possible in a given game. If you can't tell the difference between the base gameplay of two separate games in MLG, there are no words for you.

actually, the core gameplay in every halo has been the same, just with reach you have AA's that add to the gameplay masking it, with MLG the AA's are on map and you are very restricted with them which brings back a sprinkle of core halo gameplay which people have always enjoyed.


I'm talking about the difference between games like Halo, Cawadoody, and Red Faction. Of course the core gameplay of Halo is going to be similar from sequel to sequel.

oh sorry, i thought you meant default reach vs MLG reach

  • 11.22.2011 2:26 PM PDT


Posted by: con_extreme


Posted by: Dwavenhobble

Posted by: con_extreme

*Sigh*
hey look, its fellow brit, we do tend to be -blam!-s don't we?

as for the analogy, it's kind of flawed, the rules that would be taken out of rugby would be the rule that hurt the outcome and can be abused an manipulated, removing these kind of rules improves the game and puts both teams on an even playing field

The thing being both sides start with pretty much the same kit now, removing the kit forces everyone to play the same, it doesn't show that someone is better with a certain play style, surely the winner would be the team with the best skills suited to their tactics or play style, as in say football you don't generally have the goal keeper training as a striker people are specialised to certain things and the team that combines those elements best would be the winner.

Why for example in MLG on Halo 3 was the AR removed for being unbalanced, yet the sniper which has twice the killing potential left in ?


the flaw here is that in reach, you can choose to spawn with different "kit".

edit:
quoted the wrong post..

And you can choose the be better with that kit or know how to use it better. MLG and its supporters seem to be really against choice, just saying.

  • 11.22.2011 2:27 PM PDT


Posted by: Dwavenhobble

Posted by: con_extreme


Posted by: Dwavenhobble

Posted by: con_extreme

*Sigh*
hey look, its fellow brit, we do tend to be -blam!-s don't we?

as for the analogy, it's kind of flawed, the rules that would be taken out of rugby would be the rule that hurt the outcome and can be abused an manipulated, removing these kind of rules improves the game and puts both teams on an even playing field

The thing being both sides start with pretty much the same kit now, removing the kit forces everyone to play the same, it doesn't show that someone is better with a certain play style, surely the winner would be the team with the best skills suited to their tactics or play style, as in say football you don't generally have the goal keeper training as a striker people are specialised to certain things and the team that combines those elements best would be the winner.

Why for example in MLG on Halo 3 was the AR removed for being unbalanced, yet the sniper which has twice the killing potential left in ?


the flaw here is that in reach, you can choose to spawn with different "kit".

edit:
quoted the wrong post..

And you can choose the be better with that kit or know how to use it better. MLG and its supporters seem to be really against choice, just saying.

when the AA's are balanced well this isn't an issue but with reach, one can choose to spawn with a bigger advantage over another person purely because he chose a different AA.

also, i think you mean linear gameplay and not generic.

[Edited on 11.22.2011 2:29 PM PST]

  • 11.22.2011 2:29 PM PDT

Name's John. I'm a 21-year-old firefighter/EMT from lolhio who doubles as a die-hard Halo fan. I've been enjoying the franchise since 2001. My favorite iteration of Halo would have to be Halo 2 simply because I never got to experience the joy of a full-on Halo: CE LAN.


If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

Oh yeah, and boot Zome.


Posted by: Dwavenhobble

Posted by: The Ruckus 2010


Just like fighting games are all the same combos in essence. Just like racing games are all the same "go faster than the other guy" gameplay. Just like sports games are all the same game in a pretty new skin for their respective sports. Just like platformers are the same "jump over this" or "beat the hell out of that then jump over this". Just like RPG's are the same. Just like MMO's are the same. Am I missing anything here?

Your point is unknown and your argument is invalid. You're still a colossal retard.

The point that seems to have sailed over your head by your own admission, is making all games play the exact same is not a good thing


But they're not the same. Not even by a long shot.

How do you even exist? Do people like this actually breed?

  • 11.22.2011 2:29 PM PDT