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"I came here to chew bubble gum and kick ass, and I'm all outta bubble gum."

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Posted by: II7 Masterchief
Does anyone think bungie is going go back and use halo 1's weapons and gameplay?I would love to have the old grenade throwing,no duel wielding,bigger weapons on the screen and no covenant speaking english.


look at my post at the top of the first page...somebody else picked up on it!!! yipeee. Thank you master chief.

I would like to take a glance at the difference between Halo ce and halo 3.
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halo:
aliens want blood, all humans must die, period.
halo2:
aliens are religous f4gs, we must fulfill the great journey and let the divine wind fly through our midst!, G4Y

halo:
key weapons are good, range is realistic,( maybe not the pistol)
(the name is assault rifle its for close-medium rang assault)
halo2: weapons are sh1tty. rifle is now a faster shooting and more powerful needler! hahaha and with the pistol, i think it would do more damage to throw a rock at the guy than shoot him with that nerf gun

halo:
armor is thick to show actual purpouse of armor, protection. And the suit takes damage and you do, not only the rechargable shields
halo2:
armor is thin, how does it absorb that much damage? and without how come you don't have health damage or actual suit damage?
(by actual suit damage I mean that the shields are on the blue bar, but the metal parts absorb the actual suit damage, (the bars under the shield bar in Halo CE))

Halo 2 is cool, I don't want to completely flame it, but I still must say that I wish they could go back in time and make the sequel feel like the game I fell in love with.

SpecOps527 singing off...ill check back tomorrow. I hope Halo 2 was just a bad dream...lol

[Edited on 5/2/2006]

  • 05.02.2006 6:59 PM PDT
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Halo2 lost interest faster because it was continuing halo1. If it had been a new story maybe it would have done better. Thats what you get when you continue a series. Lots of whack stuff in halo1 like the covenant and your like "wow so cool!!!!1" then halo2 comes out and well... not everything is a brand new. I wish I could go back and play halo1 and enjoy it, but I've played both games way too much. I don't care for game consoles anymore. In fact, I don't really care for gaming anymore.

  • 05.02.2006 9:35 PM PDT
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to the guy i posted above. i don't think people lost interest in halo 2 faster cos of the story, if anything we played it because we wanted to see where the story was going. personally i don't like the way the cov came accross in halo 2 story, but that is not my point here.

people lost interest in the single player faster because it didn't play as good as halo CE. it just didn't have that wow factor in the game play to make you want to go back and play it again. i finished it on all the defficulty settings and then that was it, halo CE was different.

there was that depth of play that just kept you going back for more. anything you play long enough you will gradually play less and less as you move on to other games. till this day though, once in a while, i still pick up my 4 year old copy of halo and play it on my 360.

i can't even remember when i last played the halo 2 single player, its been that long. there was just nothing about the single player that made me go back to it. funny, i would play halo 2 online, but then halo CE for the single player.

actually if i could put an idea forward to bungie for halo 3, it would be a Halo CE classic mode on live. basically, good old fashioned halo CE. all the old maps, all the old weapons, both the old grenade types. no changes to the damage they do or the health system. just simple halo 1 online, NOTHING LEFT OUT. maybe keep his new look, what ever armour he will be wearing. thats all though, just the look !

[Edited on 5/3/2006]

  • 05.03.2006 2:00 AM PDT
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Posted by: II7 Masterchief
Does anyone think bungie is going go back and use halo 1's weapons and gameplay?I would love to have the old grenade throwing,no duel wielding,bigger weapons on the screen and no covenant speaking english.


That's exactly what I think. The duel wielding, and the Arbiter were nothing but shallow gimmicks, and just about everything else in the game was crap. Sadly, there's not much chance that Bungie would revert back to the older stuff, even if they do acknowledge that Halo 2 wasn't as good as it should have been. At least Halo3 will be better than Halo2, I hope...

[Edited on 5/3/2006]

  • 05.03.2006 3:33 AM PDT
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A very good read, I was pretty taken back about the guy who was saying Halo 2 is better oh boy...

Halo 1 proves to be still the best shooter I have ever played, so much so that I have sold Halo 2 a while ago and now hopefully today will go and purchase Halo 1 brand new - although it will have to be horrible classic box.

When I played Halo 1 again on the 360 the graphics yes are dated but they are not that much dated for me to cringe and think I dont like this not at all, instead I picked up that rifle and pistol and away I went with a BIG GRIN!

This game amazes me soo much because the elites and grunts also the marines seem to have soo much more to say and react a lot better than Halo 2. When playing Halo 1 I was getting soo into and was grining and being really amazed on how the game played.

The other thing to mention is the grenades as mentione already by others its perfect! You throw a grenade and 99% it WILL go where the enemy is! Especially the sticky grenades that look far better than the horrible candy floss rubbish like in Halo 2.

The weapons look and feel well like weapons, they are solid awesome I mean look at the needler and look how powerful it is! In Halo 2 it looks and feels like a kids toy!

Halo 1 is pefect in everyway 10/10

  • 05.03.2006 4:23 AM PDT
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Amen brother! I still can't get enough!

  • 05.03.2006 7:02 AM PDT
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Posted by: TheMeatSheild
none of you can be serious? halo 2 is in every way superior to halo CE...
for one, they fixed the lame multiplayer, yes, it was great for its time, but all a mu-f**ka had to do was rock the pistol, cause it was so powerful, also, the assult rifle is weak, WEAK, a rifle that loses in combat to a pistol at medium to long range isnt a very good weapon at all... another thing, the grenades????? are u retarded, is the master cheif a professional quarter back? if not, he shouldnt be able to throw a grenade 150 yards, things an halo 2 are more real, the physics are better, an the sound is fine. I cant respect someone who doesnt give credit where credit is due, you all need to settle down.....

but, halo 1's campaign is more fun, mostly cause i dont like playin as the arbiter....




one more thing, the guy who posted above me said bungie is a bunch of hypocrites?.... are u 10years old? do u even know what that word means? or do u like usin it out of context for fun? plus everythin in his post is retarded, he jus lists off things halo 2 has done, that he says he wishes halo 2 would have done?
Auto aim, no fall damage, spray and pray duals, noob sword is all a bunch of novice soccor mom crap. H2 blows 100%

  • 05.03.2006 7:57 AM PDT
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I just stumbled across this post and was so inspired that i had to create an account just so i could reply.

First things first, themeatshield is a dirty mug.

Anyway, i would like to briefly explain why halo 2 is a steaming shat compared to halo, which is the best game ever and probably always will be.

We still play Halo system link, in fact its the only game we really play anymore. Almost everything is perfect, the only things being unable to move for that fraction of a second when you spawn, plus when you fall and aim quickly occasionaly youre firing in front of you although your not actually aiming there (somebody will understand me).

I think some said something about a spastic dog being able to play halo 2 good and theyre so right. Why was tangentional shooting removed from halo 2? Any idiot can use the sniper.


The textures on halo 2 look like smeared sick on polystyrene, it makes me natious just looking at them. nothing has clarity, it's just a blurry mess.

The explosions give me no satisfaction, you dont get the sense of power. and they look rancid.

well although i could rant on for hours about whats wrong about halo 2 and whats right with halo youve heard it all before. Plus i'm getting chest pains. What needs to be done is clear. An cheap update version or expansion of halo for both xbox and 360(sound on 360 when palyin halo seems wrong in surround plus it crahes when i try to go on deathmatch) with nothin added but more LEVELS (alot more outdoor ones too), maybe a couple of extra guns and vehicles thrown in for good measure, buts thats all.

Now is that so much to ask for? I know people would buy it!

LONG LIVE HALO




  • 05.03.2006 9:42 AM PDT
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Posted by: Recon Number 54
Amazing.

Taking what could have been a positive "isn't Halo cool on the 360?" thread and (once again) turning it into a "you know what I hate about that other game?" rant.

It's like people who drive Corvettes complaining about the fact that Chevrolet makes Impalas. As if the sedans somehow make their sports cars less enjoyable to drive.

I said amazing. Not amusing, and not funny. Simply amazing.
Im sure if i had to see as many hate posts as you do i would probably feel the same way. I find it amazing that C/E fans still won't let it go to this day. Bungie should take it as a compliment as to how good the first game was. Also it should remind them of what brought them to the dance in the first place. I don't know if it's true, but i hear we may see C/E in the 360 market place this summer. Just think, all the H2 haters will be to busy playing to complain. If it don't come out, and H3 is like H2, the haters will never go away. I know i won't.

  • 05.03.2006 12:53 PM PDT
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That's another thing. Look on the back of your Halo:CE (if you have the platinum hits version) and Halo 2. On Halo:CE's it says "ONE OF THE BEST SHOOTERS EVER!", "THE KILLER APP FOR THE XBOX!", "10 OUT OF 10", "GAME OF THE YEAR!" Now go look at the back of Halo 2's box. See anything about rewards or comments? HELL NO! Obviously proves Halo:CE is better.

  • 05.03.2006 1:51 PM PDT
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I lost all track of time last night, I was soo into Halo 1 lol! I just cannot believe how awesome the sniper rifle is against the sequel! I am like 'bam! bam! bam!!' The sniper feels soo right and looks and feels far superior to the other *cough* game lol.

I picked up the classic one and yes it says 10/10 best fps on Xbox and it still is! I cannot believe I am saying this but I cannot wait to get home from work to get back on Halo 1! wow!

The game just feels soo right and natural, the marines say a lot of funny things and react really well, I mean when you go to shoot the elites they duck and dive, its just amazing.

  • 05.04.2006 3:24 AM PDT
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Posted by: Recon Number 54
I'm not angry, and I'm not attempting to insult anyone. More than anything, I don't understand why a conversation about something good needs to always turn into complaints about something that people didn't like as much, or even hated.

Your mom (or wife) makes you your favorite dinner (again). She loves you, so she does things like that.

A conversation starts about how much you love the dinner and how you are so glad that she makes it for you. But, before the conversation is finished, would you then decide to talk on and on about that one time she made stuffed peppers and didn't cook the rice?

To me, it means that your not really enjoying the good dinner.


It reminds of watching the Matrix Trilogy. Instead of just sitting back and enjoying the good points, you just can't help but start complaining about what they did wrong (even while watching Matix 1)

The thing about Halo is, when I first played it, I thought it was a killer but not the best game ever. However, after playing other FPS and the so-called Halo rivals/beaters (as well as many other games) I started to realize the difference between Halo and the other games. All the little things that Bungie got right, that other developers (including Bungie themselves now) don't seem to have picked up on. Halo isn't perfect because sadly it doesn't have everything, but what it does have IS perfect.

Halo 2 is a good game, and if it came out before Halo1, we would all say it was the best game ever. But it didn't,and compared to Halo 1, it isn't the best the game ever.

I think the reason why this topic has reverted to slagging off Halo 2 is because it's in the light of Halo 2's imperfections that Halo's 1 qualities stand out even more.

It's human nature to be attracted to slander and negative stuff. The "negative" is the disappointment of Halo 2. We all know Halo 1 is a great game: the interesting topic is why halo2 failed, and only in light of Halo 2's failure does the subject of Halo 1's greatness become even more interesting. Hence all that we discuss about Halo 1, will be how superior it is to Halo 2/ how inferior Halo 2 is compared to Halo 1.

Oh and by the way, unfortunately, we can't enjoy the dinner properly because Halo1 isn't online!

[Edited on 5/4/2006]

  • 05.04.2006 3:13 PM PDT
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Lol there're too many uber-1337-mofo fanbois here. Seriously who the hell cares if you can hold two guns at once? Is that a glitch? No, your just retarded and disagree with the majority of people who like it or don't mind and are too much of an -blam!- so you come here and clutter up our forums.

Playing as the arbiter? OOOO boo hoo! - Would you rather have the enemies perspective or a really confusing, short and crappy game where you have no idea whats going on?

I don't really care about peoples opinion but it saddens me when people get owned then complain about how it was unfair, but when they're winning they said it is fair.

*fatass nerdy xboxlive player gets totally owned by the sword*

*fatass nerdy xboxlive player complains that the sword is too strong and tells the developer they did a crap job of their game because he lost*

*repeat with different situation*

Theres only one guy who I know offline who has xbl. He is a rank 50 and he told me that when an american loses they complain and say its unfair and that he cheated, then when they win they brag about it and verbally abuse him. He was born in Egypt but has lived in America most of his life before coming to New Zealand, so I would think he would be correct. Note that hes not being too stereotypical, hes only talking about the chubby 8-16 year olds who sit on their ass all day and get their parents to pay for their xbox, internet connection and everything. And noone call me halo2 fanboy, I haven't played more than 4 hours in the last six weeks :)

  • 05.04.2006 9:13 PM PDT
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I don't think Halo 2 is a bad game just that I enjoy Halo:CE more so it's just my opinion. And as for the chubby ass american's I'm 5 foot 6 and 121 pounds (skinny -blam!- aren't I?) and I have to make my money mowing lawns and I still don;t have XBL lol. I can only play when I'm at my friend's. I really don't get why people would complain about the sword and such. You know what. Bungie put it in the game for it to be used so use it! Just like the people in the PC forums who complain about the FRC (fuel rod cannon).

  • 05.05.2006 8:57 PM PDT
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Posted by: grunts_r_us
Lol there're too many uber-1337-mofo fanbois here. Seriously who the hell cares if you can hold two guns at once? Is that a glitch? No, your just retarded and disagree with the majority of people who like it or don't mind and are too much of an -blam!- so you come here and clutter up our forums.

Playing as the arbiter? OOOO boo hoo! - Would you rather have the enemies perspective or a really confusing, short and crappy game where you have no idea whats going on?

I don't really care about peoples opinion but it saddens me when people get owned then complain about how it was unfair, but when they're winning they said it is fair.

*fatass nerdy xboxlive player gets totally owned by the sword*

*fatass nerdy xboxlive player complains that the sword is too strong and tells the developer they did a crap job of their game because he lost*

*repeat with different situation*

Theres only one guy who I know offline who has xbl. He is a rank 50 and he told me that when an american loses they complain and say its unfair and that he cheated, then when they win they brag about it and verbally abuse him. He was born in Egypt but has lived in America most of his life before coming to New Zealand, so I would think he would be correct. Note that hes not being too stereotypical, hes only talking about the chubby 8-16 year olds who sit on their ass all day and get their parents to pay for their xbox, internet connection and everything. And noone call me halo2 fanboy, I haven't played more than 4 hours in the last six weeks :)


*cough*cough* Halo 2 fanboy.

I'm not American by the way. The point is, even when I lost at Halo 1 I still enjoyed it and had fun. I know when I get beaten in Halo 2 because the other guy is more skillful, and know when I get beaten because I hit the melee button and go right through him instead of hitting him. You didn't have things like that happen in Halo 1 because the system is different, which -whehay!- why I prefer Halo 1.

Once again, Halo 2 is a great game, but it's not as good as it should have been and it's not as good as it's prequel. And there's more wrong with it than the weapon balance and the Arbiter. We have to complain about Halo 2 passionately because we love the Halo franchise, and we hate to see it fail.

If no one criticized (or in this case castigated), it wouldn't lead to any improvement would it? I'm sure even Bungie look at Halo 2 with criticism, and probably change things because of it.

And you'll probably find the majority of people who have played both games prefer Halo 1. But to be honest, and I don't want to sound like I'm beefing you, since you don't seem to be a fan of either game, I don't take your comments with much regard.

  • 05.06.2006 2:01 AM PDT
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Very well put on the above post, I highly agree.

If you like Halo: CE that much then just post comments to your liking, no point making a hate attack.

We can sit here and compare and complain about Halo 2 till the cows come home, but why dont we sit back and write about what we loved about Halo: CE? The game even 4-5yrs on is still superb! The maps are big and varied and the music hits in at the precise key moment when its all going to kick off!

  • 05.06.2006 1:41 PM PDT
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ok...BLAM ! If you don't really care about peoples opinions then why did you even bother to post ?

for the record, i don't think everyone on this thread is American..BLAM ! I know i am not !

So did you think the story for Halo CE was short, confussing and crappy ? because you didn't play as the Arbiter in that, are you saying that Bungie made a story short, confussing and crappy...BLAM ....BLAM..BLAM ! are you saying you NEEDED to play as the Arbiter to make sense of the story, are you that retarded ? its just a question, nothing personal.

if you didn't notice, this topic was not even really about the multiplayer aspect of the games, it was more to do with the single player.

who said anything about getting owned, you get owned just as bad with the pistol in Halo 1, so i don't see what the issue is there ?

at the end of the day halo 2 is a great game, i don't think anyone would disagree. it beats every other first person shooter hands down. its when you compare it with halo 1 that the issues arise. the biggest issues are with the single players campaigns. i can understand why they made the changes for live, but it did take away alot of the stuff that made halo so great in the first place.

As someone said above, its because of our love for halo that we keep going on about it. no one has complained about halo 2 comparing it to another FPS other then halo1, why ?

oh, Blam ! these forums are as much for halo 1 fans as they are for halo 2. if you don't like it go read the halo 2 topics !

BLAM !


Posted by: grunts_r_us
Lol there're too many uber-1337-mofo fanbois here. Seriously who the hell cares if you can hold two guns at once? Is that a glitch? No, your just retarded and disagree with the majority of people who like it or don't mind and are too much of an -blam!- so you come here and clutter up our forums.

Playing as the arbiter? OOOO boo hoo! - Would you rather have the enemies perspective or a really confusing, short and crappy game where you have no idea whats going on?

I don't really care about peoples opinion but it saddens me when people get owned then complain about how it was unfair, but when they're winning they said it is fair.

*fatass nerdy xboxlive player gets totally owned by the sword*

*fatass nerdy xboxlive player complains that the sword is too strong and tells the developer they did a crap job of their game because he lost*

*repeat with different situation*

Theres only one guy who I know offline who has xbl. He is a rank 50 and he told me that when an american loses they complain and say its unfair and that he cheated, then when they win they brag about it and verbally abuse him. He was born in Egypt but has lived in America most of his life before coming to New Zealand, so I would think he would be correct. Note that hes not being too stereotypical, hes only talking about the chubby 8-16 year olds who sit on their ass all day and get their parents to pay for their xbox, internet connection and everything. And noone call me halo2 fanboy, I haven't played more than 4 hours in the last six weeks :)


[Edited on 5/7/2006]

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